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Dec 5, 2020 08:09:39   #
joehel2 Loc: Cherry Hill, NJ
 
Testing has increased exponentially, resulting in more positive identifications. This has to be part of the story.

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Dec 5, 2020 08:12:34   #
ves Loc: MD
 
Information from the John Hopkins Hospital information sheet relative to Coronavirus 19.

It is extremely informative and seems to be about the latest release of personal handling of this medical issue and is worth the time to study the information given for your personal care. Stay safe and stay well.

This certainly makes the CoVid -19 protection methods more understandable.

* This virus is not a living organism. It is a protein molecule (RNA or DNA) covered by a protective layer of lipid (fat), which, when absorbed by the cells of the ocular (eyes), nasal (nose) or buccal mucosa (mouth), changes their genetic code (mutates) and converts into aggressor and multiplier cells.

* Since the virus is not a living organism, but is a protein molecule, it cannot be killed.

It has to decay on its own. The disintegration time depends on the temperature, humidity and type of material where it lies.

* The virus is very fragile; the only thing that protects it is a thin outer layer of fat, and that is the reason why soap or detergent is the best weapon. The foam CUTS THE FAT (that is why you have to scrub for 20 seconds or more, to create lots of foam). By dissolving the fat layer, the protein molecule disperses and breaks down.

* HEAT melts fat; this is why it is necessary to use water above 77 degrees for hand washing, laundry and cleaning surfaces. In addition, hot water makes more foam, making it more effective.

* Alcohol or any mixture with alcohol over 65% DISSOLVES ALL FAT, especially the external lipid layer of the virus.

* Any solution with 1 part bleach and 5 parts water directly dissolves the protein, breaking it down from the inside.

* Oxygenated water increases the effectiveness of soap, alcohol, and chlorine, because peroxide dissolves the virus protein. However, because you have to use it in its pure form, it can damage your skin.

* NO BACTERICIDE OR ANTIBIOTIC WILL WORK because the virus is not a living organism like bacteria; antibodies cannot kill what is not alive.

* The virus molecules remain very stable at colder temperatures, including air conditioning in houses and cars. They also need moisture and darkness to stay stable. Therefore, dehumidified, dry, warm and bright environments will degrade the virus faster.

* UV LIGHT on any object that may contain the virus breaks down the protein. Be careful, it also breaks down collagen (which is protein) in the skin.

* The virus CANNOT go through healthy skin.

* Vinegar is NOT useful because it does not break down the protective layer of fat.

* NO SPIRITS, NOR VODKA, serve. The strongest vodka is only 40% alcohol, and you need a minimum of 65%.

* LISTERINE is 65% alcohol.

* The more confined the space, the higher the concentration of the virus there can be. The more open or naturally ventilated, the less.

* You have to wash your hands before and after touching any commonly used surfaces such as: mucosa (mouth area), food, locks, knobs, switches, remotes, cell phones, watches, computers, desks etc… and don’t forget when you use the bathroom.

* You have to MOISTURIZE YOUR HANDS due to frequent washing. Dry hands have cracks and the molecules can hide in the micro cracks. The thicker the moisturizer, the better.

* Also keep your NAILS SHORT so that the virus does not hide there.

Now for some additional input:

Dr. Bonnie Henry is the Provincial Health Officer for British Columbia, the first woman in this position. She is also an associate professor at the University of British Columbia. She has a background in epidemiology and is a specialist in public health and preventive medicine . She is also from PEI (Prince Edward Island).


The Wisdom of Dr. Bonnie Henry

1. We may have to live with COVID-19 for months or years. Let's not deny it or panic. Let's not make our lives useless. Let's learn to live with this fact.
2. You can't destroy COVID-19 viruses that have penetrated cell walls, by drinking gallons of hot water you'll just go to the bathroom more often.
3. Washing hands and maintaining a two-meter physical distance is the best method for your protection.
4. If you don't have a COVID-19 patient at home, there's no need to disinfect the surfaces at your house.
5. Packaged cargo, gas pumps, shopping carts and ATMs do not cause infection. If you wash your hands, live your life as usual.
6. COVID-19 is not a food infection. It is associated with drops of infection like the 'flu’. There is no demonstrated risk that COVID-19 is transmitted by food.
7. You can lose your sense of smell with a lot of allergies and viral infections. This is only a non-specific symptom of COVID-19.
8. Once at home, you don't need to change your clothes urgently and go shower! Purity is a virtue, paranoia is not!
9. The COVID-19 virus doesn't hang in the air for long. This is a respiratory droplet infection that requires close contact.
10. The air is clean; you can walk through the gardens and through parks (just keeping your physical protection distance).
11. It is sufficient to use normal soap against COVID-19, not antibacterial soap. This is a virus, not a bacterium.
12. You don't have to worry about your food orders. But you can heat it all up in the microwave if you wish.
13. The chances of bringing COVID-19 home with your shoes is like being struck by lightning twice in a day. I've been working against viruses for 20 years — drop infections don't spread like that!
14. You can't be protected from the virus by taking vinegar, sugarcane juice and ginger! These are for immunity not a cure.
15. Wearing a mask for long periods interferes with your breathing and oxygen levels. Wear it only in crowds.
16. Wearing gloves is also a bad idea; the virus can accumulate into the glove and be easily transmitted if you touch your face. Better just to wash your hands regularly.
Immunity is weakened by always staying in a sterile environment. Even if you eat immune boosting foods, please go out of your house regularly to any park/beach. Immunity is increased by EXPOSURE TO PATHOGENS, not by sitting at home and consuming fried/ spicy/sugary food and aerated drinks.

Be smart and stay informed! Live life sensibly and to the fullest.
Be Kind, Be Calm and Be Safe!

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Dec 5, 2020 08:29:16   #
machia Loc: NJ
 
In Philadelphia a packing plant was checked. 95% of the door handles had the COVID19 virus on them. From this inspection it was concluded that contact transmission is probably the number one way to get this nasty virus.
Never touch your face, mouth, eyes or nose until you wash your hands for at least 30 seconds in warm water with soap. Soap is important because it breaks down the emulsion that surrounds the virus cell. Alcohol, 70% or above, apply for 30 seconds or more.
Of course wear your mask as air transmission when around people is a super-spreader too.

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Dec 5, 2020 08:37:13   #
Photocraig
 
No, but beating the odds consistently is a close second to Rocket Science.

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Dec 5, 2020 08:46:04   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
Bill_de wrote:
Tony,
You have been here long enough to know that it ain't true unless you read it on UHH,

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Yes, I have found the forum a great place to seek the news and sound medical advice.

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Dec 5, 2020 09:18:10   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
redlegfrog wrote:
Has anyone read or heard what is causing the increase in covid cases? I really would like to know.
We are all washing our hands and wearing our masks. Is there more to the story?



Denial. Lots of people don't like being told what to do. They like their freedom. In NY, it's the law that you wear a mask in stores or within six feet of someone. Still, many people aggressively shop without masks.

Aside from that, people are still meeting in groups without masks. Mike Pompeo invited 900 people to a party.

I hope no one answered that we have more cases because of more testing. Our local testing rate of infection keeps going up. More of the people being tested have Covid. In my county, it was 6.9% a couple of days ago.

This pandemic is contagious, and following commonsense rules will end it. Unfortunately, commonsense is in short supply.

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Dec 5, 2020 09:30:35   #
Xinloi6870
 
TonyP wrote:
You're kidding, surely?


No, he’s not kidding, and don’t call him Shirley.

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Dec 5, 2020 09:42:37   #
trinhqthuan Loc: gaithersburg
 
ltj123 wrote:
Schools opening with sporting event. Pro sports televised so bars are fuller. And lastly people have had it with this Pandemic.
Even my two daughters doing critical medical care have had it, and neither want the vaccine....(but will be required 1st wave).
At 71 and cancer survivor I'll wait and see what the side effects are. CDC very concerned that many will not get 2nd dose because of the side effects after 1st dose.


"CDC very concerned that many will not get 2nd dose because of the side effects after 1st dose" where did you get this information?

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Dec 5, 2020 09:53:50   #
Bultaco Loc: Aiken, SC
 
JohnSwanda wrote:
Obviously we are not all washing our hands and wearing our masks, and especially not avoiding crowds or gatherings with more than one household. After the initial shutdown medical experts warned against reopening without proper precautions, and people have ignored that. We have yet to see the results of all the travel and gatherings for Thanksgiving.


Sad but true.

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Dec 5, 2020 10:12:59   #
John Matthews Loc: Wasilla, Alaska
 
trinhqthuan wrote:
"CDC very concerned that many will not get 2nd dose because of the side effects after 1st dose" where did you get this information?


This statement was in the news cycle about 7-14 days ago for a day or two. It appears that some people have a non-life threatening but fairly unpleasant reaction for about 24 hours after receiving the vaccine dose (the reaction evidently occurring each time). Relatively high fever, significant body aches, etc as your immune system responds to the vaccine. It was unclear in the articles that I read if it was to all the vaccine varieties.

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Dec 5, 2020 10:43:43   #
Scruples Loc: Brooklyn, New York
 
JohnSwanda wrote:
Obviously we are not all washing our hands and wearing our masks, and especially not avoiding crowds or gatherings with more than one household. After the initial shutdown medical experts warned against reopening without proper precautions, and people have ignored that. We have yet to see the results of all the travel and gatherings for Thanksgiving.


You are quite correct. There is an increase in Covid - 19 cases. The reason is two fold. The virus has mutated again and people are not following the original guidelines. It is hard to remain virulent but if we don’t comply this round will be worse than the first.

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Dec 5, 2020 10:45:22   #
sb Loc: Florida's East Coast
 
redlegfrog wrote:
Has anyone read or heard what is causing the increase in covid cases? I really would like to know.
We are all washing our hands and wearing our masks. Is there more to the story?


No - the story is just not what you seem to think it is. We are NOT "ALL" washing our hands and wearing our masks. Have you been out of your home lately? Passive-aggressive and/or inconsiderate science-deniers are everywhere. Businesses which "require" masks are reluctant to confront customers, so I even encounter people without masks at the grocery store. I stopped to pick up a pizza at my previously favorite pizza restaurant last Friday evening. The cooks were not wearing masks. The restaurant section had diners sitting at three booths - immediately next to each other, not even spread out in the restaurant, which was otherwise empty. No one had masks on, of course, since they were eating. One of the patrons was actually coughing! Looking over in the bar area, the bartender had her mask down around her chin. Our governor not only refuses to issue a mask mandate, he has made it illegal for cities or counties to impose any type of fine for violation of their own mask mandates. He is an idiot, and all of this is why our COVID rate is climbing, and out test positivity rate is near 10% now. There is really not much question about why COVID is killing so many now.

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Dec 5, 2020 10:47:53   #
StanMac Loc: Tennessee
 
Its the “Masks?! We don’t need no stinking masks!” attitude of a still significant number of people that continues to contribute to the spread of the virus. I heard it behind me the other day as I went into Walmart. It’s baffling to me that these people don’t have a problem complying with all other public health and safety laws and regulations but object to wearing a mask during the time they are in situations where they would prevent or minimize the spread of a potentially deadly disease.

Stan

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Dec 5, 2020 11:27:31   #
dlwhawaii Loc: Sunny Wailuku, Hawaii
 
redlegfrog wrote:
Has anyone read or heard what is causing the increase in covid cases? I really would like to know.
We are all washing our hands and wearing our masks. Is there more to the story?


Not everyone is participating. Watch the news: no masks, large groups, etc.

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Dec 5, 2020 11:38:21   #
dlwhawaii Loc: Sunny Wailuku, Hawaii
 
This is a perfect example of Darwin's "Survival of the Fittest". Wear a mask, wash your hands, separate - SURVIVE. Don't wear a mask, don't wash your hands, don't separate - TAKE YOUR CHANCES.

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