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Dec 4, 2020 14:03:38 #
petercbrandt
Loc: New York City, Manhattan
cbtsam wrote:
I have no idea if it will work, nor even a clear i... (show quote)
Sam,
Understood ! I am amazed at your report of the time it took to retrieve your file.
I'll look at BackBlaze to see what they cost.
Thanks,
Peter
Dec 4, 2020 14:08:44 #
rck281
Loc: Overland Park, KS
TriX wrote:
No, unless you bought TWO 9TB drives. You must have 2 drives to mirror (RAID 1) and the usable capacity is the capacity of one of the two drives.
Absolutely correct. Raid 1 requires 2 drives.
Dec 4, 2020 14:28:16 #
chrissybabe
Loc: New Zealand
Your backup needs TWO drives as a minimum. Two separate drives.
Avoid long file names - especially if copying from one drive using the file name there and going to a named location on the destination. Nothing more than 256 characters in total including all punctuation. Using the location of the photos is the best way to screw yourself up.
Do not do this for example :
copy d:/photos/september 6th 2014/mushrooms/all shots from under the left hand most ridge next to the cedar tree/green/edited k:/....same name
There probably isn't 256 characters here (so don't bother counting them) but this is what you have to avoid. Otherwise explorer and a lot of backup programs will fail and trying to clean up a mess like this will piss you off no end. Especially if you had designed your file sorting system this way for convenience and have thousands of files. Sometimes you are totally unaware until you decide to feel guilty and create your first backups.
It took me years to retrain my wife about this.
And best to use a backup program of some sort (I use bvckup2) as it is usually 1/3rd the time of using explorer and if you get problems the programs "remember" and problems and will correct them when you restart.
Note also that if you do get errors it is mostly NOT issues with the backup program itself but something wrong with the files or the disks. Using a backup program is often the best way to test a disk (either source or destination) rather than any disk test program.
Avoid long file names - especially if copying from one drive using the file name there and going to a named location on the destination. Nothing more than 256 characters in total including all punctuation. Using the location of the photos is the best way to screw yourself up.
Do not do this for example :
copy d:/photos/september 6th 2014/mushrooms/all shots from under the left hand most ridge next to the cedar tree/green/edited k:/....same name
There probably isn't 256 characters here (so don't bother counting them) but this is what you have to avoid. Otherwise explorer and a lot of backup programs will fail and trying to clean up a mess like this will piss you off no end. Especially if you had designed your file sorting system this way for convenience and have thousands of files. Sometimes you are totally unaware until you decide to feel guilty and create your first backups.
It took me years to retrain my wife about this.
And best to use a backup program of some sort (I use bvckup2) as it is usually 1/3rd the time of using explorer and if you get problems the programs "remember" and problems and will correct them when you restart.
Note also that if you do get errors it is mostly NOT issues with the backup program itself but something wrong with the files or the disks. Using a backup program is often the best way to test a disk (either source or destination) rather than any disk test program.
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Dec 4, 2020 15:04:44 #
petercbrandt wrote:
Rubin,
So far we've been lucky in the northeast (NY) to be without tornadoes, hurricanes, earthquakes, or forest fires and i certainly don't want to push my luck. Our winters are milder than before and our summers are becoming sub-tropical with lots of rain to make moss and licken growing on the Oaks.
Thank you sincerely for your advise.
Peter
So far we've been lucky in the northeast (NY) to be without tornadoes, hurricanes, earthquakes, or forest fires and i certainly don't want to push my luck. Our winters are milder than before and our summers are becoming sub-tropical with lots of rain to make moss and licken growing on the Oaks.
Thank you sincerely for your advise.
Peter
I wasn't quite so lucky. I used to live on Long Island and was evacuated to the nearest school during a hurricane back in the 80s. After the storm we couldn't drive all the way back to our house as there were many downed trees in the roads. We found one of them IN OUR ATTIC! Fortunately, however, my computer was unaffected.
Dec 4, 2020 15:30:57 #
cahale
Loc: San Angelo, TX
petercbrandt wrote:
I just bought a 5 Tb external hard drive for the p... (show quote)
If you are using Microsoft, you have totally lost me. If you transfer (copy) an icon (ie shortcut) to the new drive, all you have there is the shortcut. And, if you copy the contents of an old hard drive to the new, that has no effect on the old hard drive. And if you are talking Apple, I was already lost.
Dec 4, 2020 16:25:55 #
speedmaster
Loc: Kendall, FL
Longshadow wrote:
And be careful how you copy the stuff to the destination drive. Some drag-n-drops are "MOVE", you don't want to do that! A move does not keep the files in the original place.
And be careful how you copy the stuff to the destination drive. Some drag-n-drops are "MOVE", you don't want to do that! A move does not keep the files in the original place.
Not at all if you are doing to a different drive. Windows consider it a copy. If you do it to the same drive it will be considered a move.
There are ways to configure this behavior in the register but the above is the original system default.
Cheers
Luiz
Dec 4, 2020 16:36:25 #
speedmaster wrote:
Not at all if you are doing to a different drive. Windows consider it a copy. If you do it to the same drive it will be considered a move.
There are ways to configure this behavior in the register but the above is the original system default.
Cheers
Luiz
There are ways to configure this behavior in the register but the above is the original system default.
Cheers
Luiz
Thanks! Good to know. I'll bet many people do not.
(I never connected the location difference giving a functional transfer change. Was bitten once, I always use right-click now.
)I learn something new almost daily!
Dec 4, 2020 16:45:27 #
It's always good to be in danger of learning something new.
Dec 4, 2020 17:04:16 #
DirtFarmer wrote:
It's always good to be in danger of learning something new.
At my age I'm worried about the new stuff pushing the old stuff out!
Dec 4, 2020 17:56:35 #
Unless your copy software automatically indexes, you're likely to overwrite the earlier dupes as you add the new ones of the same image.
Dec 4, 2020 17:59:50 #
jeffcisp wrote:
Unless your copy software automatically indexes, you're likely to overwrite the earlier dupes as you add the new ones of the same image.
Windows asks me when I copy a duplicate file name.
Tells me sizes and mod date of each, and asks what to do.
Another reason why I never put a given image in more than one place!
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Dec 4, 2020 18:40:55 #
Dec 4, 2020 20:56:26 #
petercbrandt wrote:
I just bought a 5 Tb external hard drive for the p... (show quote)
If I understand what you want to do: I would use the partition command to create partitions a bit bigger than the drives you plan to copy . All your older stuff backed up/ copied to the new drive. everything in one place.
Dec 4, 2020 23:37:47 #
chrissybabe
Loc: New Zealand
unlucky2 wrote:
If I understand what you want to do: I would use the partition command to create partitions a bit bigger than the drives you plan to copy . All your older stuff backed up/ copied to the new drive. everything in one place.
I wouldn't use partitions. It just introduces another level of stuff that can go wrong. And uses up drive letters unnecesarily. Just create a file structure called Disk2015, Disk2016 etc.
There is absolutely no reason at all, I mean NONE, to create partitions. I haven't used partitions in 20 years.
Dec 5, 2020 08:35:13 #
I like that. On Mac , where can I learn to creat good file structures I have 4 partitions on a 6 T and it makes me u Rasul. Thank you
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