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Dec 4, 2020 11:04:49   #
petercbrandt Loc: New York City, Manhattan
 
Papa Joe wrote:
Hi Peter,
It causes one to wonder if it might be safer to have several smaller drives with the photos rather than having the photos ALL on one larger drive. A major failure of the large drive could cause a tremendous loss. Just wondering.


PapaJoe
The new drive is for convenience to reorganize and edit down duplicates, I'll keep the old drives as they are for safety.
Peter

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Dec 4, 2020 11:06:54   #
petercbrandt Loc: New York City, Manhattan
 
photoman43 wrote:
I do not completely understand what you are trying to do.

When I have transferred image files from one computer or external hard drive to another, I use SynchBack to transfer the files. It is easy to use. There is a free version or a paid version, Pro. I have been using it for over 8 years with no problems.


https://www.2brightsparks.com/freeware/freeware-hub.html





Thank you Photoman, I will check 2brightsparks out.
Peter

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Dec 4, 2020 11:08:00   #
Xpatch Loc: New York, Antigua, GT.
 
Yes, and try to convert old to format you want in new drive.

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Dec 4, 2020 11:08:14   #
petercbrandt Loc: New York City, Manhattan
 
I'm impressed with this community, with so many helpful responses.

Thank you all !
Peter Brandt

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Dec 4, 2020 11:08:17   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Dikdik wrote:
I don't know if copying the icon is the same as copying the drive... I've not tried it. With the most recent Windows OSs, if there is a 'shortcut' on your desktop... you can drag and drop files to it and they are copied... check it out and if a file is dragged to the shortcut a second time, the machine will ask if you want to replace the file there. If you drag it to a folder on the desktop and it's on the desktop... it will do so, and delete the one you dragged.

"\all old folder & files of Drive-A" I prefer... "\BkUp_A"... less of an issue with long filenames and spaces in the filename...

Dik
I don't know if copying the icon is the same as co... (show quote)


Just because you can is no reason to use a crapload of characters.

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Dec 4, 2020 11:13:17   #
petercbrandt Loc: New York City, Manhattan
 
Longshadow wrote:

Just because you can is no reason to use a crapload of characters.


?? What crapload are you talking about ?

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Dec 4, 2020 11:16:01   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
petercbrandt wrote:
?? What crapload are you talking about ?


"\all old folder & files of Drive-A"

(It was in the quote...)

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Dec 4, 2020 11:20:30   #
BobHartung Loc: Bettendorf, IA
 
petercbrandt wrote:
I just bought a 5 Tb external hard drive for the purpose of dupping from other old hard drives so that 'age' and advanced technology doesn't interfere with keeping those images.
Next week I will start and I'm hoping that as I transfer each H.D. icon onto the new H.D., that each old H.D. will stay independent. My expectation is to see 6 different icons on the first page of opening the new H.D.

I have never tried this before. Over time I kept buying a newer backup drive.
When searching for an old photo, rather than attaching every h.d. independently looking for an image, they will all be on one drive.

Do you guys think my logic right ?

PS: I do not like the cloud stuff. I've heard so many people complaining that loading up is OK, but downloading back to your computer is a pain, a long time pain.
I just bought a 5 Tb external hard drive for the p... (show quote)


It should work. I don't understand the thought process for keeping everything separate. There are numerous archiving solutions that allow you to keyword the images so finding certain traits is simpler.

i use LrC myself. 60,000+ images in one archive stored on a 42 TB Thunderbay Drive from OtherWorld Computing. This runs RAID 5 and is totally backed up daily to a second 42 TB drive.

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Dec 4, 2020 12:31:14   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
"Do you guys think my logic right ?" Yes. I do the same thing. I label and keep the original drives.

I too am not yet sold on the cloud. As best I can tell, its utility arises from its accessibility by another computer with an Internet connection.
petercbrandt wrote:
I just bought a 5 Tb external hard drive for the purpose of dupping from other old hard drives so that 'age' and advanced technology doesn't interfere with keeping those images.
Next week I will start and I'm hoping that as I transfer each H.D. icon onto the new H.D., that each old H.D. will stay independent. My expectation is to see 6 different icons on the first page of opening the new H.D.

I have never tried this before. Over time I kept buying a newer backup drive.
When searching for an old photo, rather than attaching every h.d. independently looking for an image, they will all be on one drive.

Do you guys think my logic right ?

PS: I do not like the cloud stuff. I've heard so many people complaining that loading up is OK, but downloading back to your computer is a pain, a long time pain.
I just bought a 5 Tb external hard drive for the p... (show quote)

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Dec 4, 2020 12:34:11   #
Dikdik Loc: Winnipeg, Canada
 
I'm just getting used to the cloud being an additional backup available from anywhere... still keep a hard copy and backup on real drives SSD and mechanical...

Dik

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Dec 4, 2020 12:53:00   #
cbtsam Loc: Monkton, MD
 
petercbrandt wrote:
I just bought a 5 Tb external hard drive for the purpose of dupping from other old hard drives so that 'age' and advanced technology doesn't interfere with keeping those images.
Next week I will start and I'm hoping that as I transfer each H.D. icon onto the new H.D., that each old H.D. will stay independent. My expectation is to see 6 different icons on the first page of opening the new H.D.

I have never tried this before. Over time I kept buying a newer backup drive.
When searching for an old photo, rather than attaching every h.d. independently looking for an image, they will all be on one drive.

Do you guys think my logic right ?

PS: I do not like the cloud stuff. I've heard so many people complaining that loading up is OK, but downloading back to your computer is a pain, a long time pain.
I just bought a 5 Tb external hard drive for the p... (show quote)


I have no idea if it will work, nor even a clear idea of what you're planning.

I can, however, comment on what you've heard about the cloud. I had my images on two 4 TB desktop hard drives, plus a desktop backup on a 10 TB desktop hard drive. The two 4 TB drives plus the internal drive were backed up to Backblaze in the cloud. One day, the newer of the 4 TB drives failed, and within a few minutes the 10 TB drive also failed!

I was beside myself! Then I remembered Backblaze. And, yes, I did find that downloading 3.3 TBs from Backblaze could take several days at least, working constantly 24 hours daily, and that was a bit disappointing, although I was able to download a few of the most recent images I wanted to work on.

Then, within a week, I had all the 3.3 TBs from Backblaze delivered on a 4 TB desktop hard drive. In the meantime, I'd replaced the dead 4TB with an 8 TB, and the dead 10 TB with a 14 TB, so I copied the 3.3 TBs from Backblaze onto the 8 TB, backed up the old 4 TB and the new 8 TB to the new 14 TB, and shipped their hard drive back to them. NOTHING LOST but a week of painstakingly downloading whatever I wanted to work on.

I cannot recommend a cloud backup strongly enough. In brief, it sorta saved my life, not to mention much of my photographic life.

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Dec 4, 2020 13:03:47   #
photoman43
 
Papa Joe wrote:
Hi Peter,
It causes one to wonder if it might be safer to have several smaller drives with the photos rather than having the photos ALL on one larger drive. A major failure of the large drive could cause a tremendous loss. Just wondering.



I do both as part of my backup plans.

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Dec 4, 2020 13:10:40   #
tjw47 Loc: Michigan
 
Raid 1 requires 2 drives. You can't make a raid system with 1 drive.

Did you partition the single drive into two halves each 9 gb in size ?

If the drive dies, both partitions will be unusable.

If you made a raid 1 ( mirroring ) with 18gb drives, you would have 18 gb of storage available not 9gb.

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Dec 4, 2020 13:30:04   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
anotherview wrote:
...I too am not yet sold on the cloud. As best I can tell, its utility arises from its accessibility by another computer with an Internet connection.


There's more to it than that. Yes, another computer can access the files if you have the username/password.

But the cloud doesn't just store the files. It duplicates them and distributes them so there are copies in widely different regions of the country (or even across countries or continents). That means if there's a regional disaster that trashes one storage facility another is available to take up the slack.

Also, the cloud storage media are maintained by professionals. Local storage media are probably maintained by amateurs. At least mine are.

Cloud backup is not meant to be your primary backup. That is best left to the local storage, primarily for bandwidth considerations. However, local storage is subject to regional disasters which can trash your entire local set of drives. If you use cloud backup in addition to your local backup, you can restore all your files.

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Dec 4, 2020 13:56:08   #
Dikdik Loc: Winnipeg, Canada
 
"Raid 1 requires 2 drives. You can't make a raid system with 1 drive."

That's what I thought, but when my new laptop from Dell arrived, the M.2 drive was partitioned into 4 and was raided... I don't know what raid was used... it was a sh*t drive and almost as slow as a mechanical one... think they thought the could increase the speed by raiding it... really don't know what they were thinking.

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