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Nov 22, 2020 17:10:26   #
DeanS Loc: Capital City area of North Carolina
 
Canon just announced goood prices on several of their brand, including the RP, a FF milc. It is small, light weight,and will shoot both RF and, with an adapter, EF, and EF-S lens. It is not quiteas full featured as the new gorilla R5, but less than half the price. Strongly suggest taking a look before making yur decision.

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Nov 22, 2020 17:13:55   #
mffox Loc: Avon, CT
 
Go Olympus! Im sure you'll find something in their lineup that will meet your needs. PLUS: they have some very good "Black Friday discounts on the entire line.

Mark

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Nov 22, 2020 17:38:02   #
John Hicks Loc: Sible Hedinham North Essex England
 
I do not believe either Fuji or Olympus lenses are as good as Canon or Nikon as the two companies make the best lenses in my opinion, I used to use a Canon DSLR and a full set of Canon lenses many of them the white pro lenses
I changed my DSLR for weight reasons and bought a Canon m 50 with a am to e.g. Canon adaptor so I still use my e.g. Lenses now a days with a monopod.

I do not not know Nikons line up that well but would a similar body to the one I changed to suit and you could use your Nikon lenses perhaps with an adaptor and also use a mobile to help with the weight no doubt Nikon do a similar camera to my m50

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Nov 22, 2020 17:44:20   #
Beenthere
 
DMF wrote:
My wife is an experienced photographer currently using a Nikon 750. Looking for a mirrorless camera, weight has become very important, these typically do not go together any better than price. We do make large prints. While we have only owned Nikons, making the change to mirrorless makes changing manufacturer easier. All guidance and ideas will help my search. Thanks, Doug


Olympus, Lumix (Panasonic) Micro 4/3, and, in a stretch, you might consider Sony. Sony not as light as Olympus or Lumix. I'm partial to Olympus with their huge selection of lenses and superior technology. Lumix is not far behind, but their emphasis is in different areas of the Micro 4/3 format. There it is, all lighter than Nikon, both bodies and lenses.

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Nov 22, 2020 17:49:40   #
Beenthere
 
DMF wrote:
Is the lens weight significantly different for mirrorless cameras?


In the smaller format such as Micro 4/3, But the lens quality is outstanding, while recent tech improvements have made low light not much of a problem, especially for the Olympus EM5 MkIII and EM1 MkIII

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Nov 22, 2020 17:57:18   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
John Hicks wrote:
I do not believe either Fuji or Olympus lenses are as good as Canon or Nikon as the two companies make the best lenses in my opinion, I used to use a Canon DSLR and a full set of Canon lenses many of them the white pro lenses
I changed my DSLR for weight reasons and bought a Canon m 50 with a am to e.g. Canon adaptor so I still use my e.g. Lenses now a days with a monopod.

I do not not know Nikons line up that well but would a similar body to the one I changed to suit and you could use your Nikon lenses perhaps with an adaptor and also use a mobile to help with the weight no doubt Nikon do a similar camera to my m50
I do not believe either Fuji or Olympus lenses are... (show quote)


I have a bunch of Canon’s L series lenses and a few Fujis, and in my opinion, the Fuji’s are just as good, but it’s a fair question and no easy way to compare without testing, so give me awhile, and I’ll photograph a standard test target with a Canon 135 f2L on a FF (one of Canon’s sharpest EF series lenses) and the 90 f2 Fuji XF equivalent on a crop body. It won’t be a perfect comparison because the Canon is FF and higher resolution, but it should be interesting - stay tuned, and I’ll post the results.

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Nov 22, 2020 18:04:49   #
IDguy Loc: Idaho
 
amfoto1 wrote:


For example, Nikon has not yet introduced any Z-mount lenses longer than 200mm focal length.

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I have a 50-250 Z mount for my Z50.

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Nov 22, 2020 18:13:41   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
DMF wrote:
My wife is an experienced photographer currently using a Nikon 750. Looking for a mirrorless camera, weight has become very important, these typically do not go together any better than price. We do make large prints. While we have only owned Nikons, making the change to mirrorless makes changing manufacturer easier. All guidance and ideas will help my search. Thanks, Doug


SYSTEM weight (defined as the weight of the camera bag you carry around) will not change significantly if you keep using full frame lenses. For most of us, lenses are where the weight is. Oh, you can settle for smaller maximum apertures and save a bit of weight, but if you like to work in low light, that's annoying.

I have used many cameras, both personally and professionally. Today's cameras are incredible — period. I would rent to try before you buy. Basically, menus, ergonomics, weight, and feature sets matter a hell of a lot more than brand. All of the majors are making great bodies and lenses now. And since most of the mirrorless lens designs are less than ten years old, they benefit from the current state of the art.

That said, life is full of little trade-offs. EVERY camera is some sort of compromise. You give up some attributes to get those which are mutually exclusive. We can't buck the laws of physics.

My personal system is Micro 4/3. I use a Lumix GH4 for both video and stills. I have three pro-grade stabilized lenses — 12-35mm f/2.8, 30mm f/2.8 Macro, and 35-100mm f/2.8 (equivalent to full frame 24-70, 60, and 70-200 mm range), plus a couple of f/1.7 primes (15mm and 42.5mm). My entire system will fit under an airline seat. My bag is half the weight of what it was in my APS-C dSLR days, and 1/3 the weight of my kit in the film days of my youth.

I can, and have, written 7-page explanations of why I use what I use. It DOES NOT work for everyone, but it is exactly what I need. The best advice I can give you is go to http://www.dpreview.com and read reviews of the latest gear in your budget range. Then rent, and give the rental gear a good workout.

I would carefully define what it is you want to photograph. Define a kit weight you can tolerate. Define what is most important to you about a system. Define a budget. Then look for gear that meets your needs as best as you can find. Every body and lens has its niche application.

If it's Micro 4/3 you want, the Lumix G9 and GH5 are top-tier machines. Both are particularly good at BOTH stills and video. The G9 is the better stills camera, and the GH5 is the better video camera.

The Olympus OM-D E-M1 Mark II and the OM-D E-M1X are also top-tier. Others here have sung their praises.

If you like APS-C, the Fujifilm XT-4 is my target pick because their lenses are specifically designed for THAT FORMAT. Its film simulations in JPEG mode are great.

I'm not going to get into Sony, Canon, and Nikon offerings. Others will tell you their stories. Suffice it to say their mirrorless offerings were not there when I was in need of a new system. If a full frame mirrorless system were available in 2014, I would have bought it, so long as the audio features of the video section had pro features.

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Nov 22, 2020 18:21:03   #
Picture Taker Loc: Michigan Thumb
 
How do we compare lenses? I have a great Tamron 11-22 or something (don't remember exactly) I also have a great Canon 11-24 a great lens. Canon is better in picture quality but both take great quality pictures. Tamron sells for a few hundred dollars and the list on the Canon is (I believe)twenty nine hundred dollars. If you want to go crazy it's better. When I print and sell a picture I standing back and looking at them don't see the difference, as a picture buyer.
Now I'm going to get it from the photo technicians-- That is why I'm a picture taker.
and done fine with my picture taking going back to about 1943 (that is the first picture I still have of an accident (my wife found it in a pile of my junk)

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Nov 22, 2020 19:32:33   #
Ted 2455
 
You might want to rent some of these cameras to get a feel for the weight and the IQ.

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Nov 22, 2020 19:49:17   #
DMF
 
Certainly does. If the quality works for large prints, 4/3 seems to be the way the technology is moving. Doug

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Nov 22, 2020 20:05:06   #
DMF
 
I will remember that!!! 👍Doug

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Nov 22, 2020 20:09:40   #
Canisdirus
 
DMF wrote:
Certainly does. If the quality works for large prints, 4/3 seems to be the way the technology is moving. Doug


4/3'ds is barely hanging on in the market.



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Nov 22, 2020 20:14:18   #
DMF
 
The table appears to list manufacturers not models. Not sure how you interpret that 4/3 is barely holding on? Perhaps because neither Cannon or Nikon offer 4/3. Need help?

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Nov 22, 2020 20:16:57   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
DMF wrote:
I will remember that!!! 👍Doug


Doug, If you use the “quote reply” button under the post you’re replying to, it will help us understand who your response is directed to.

Cheers,
Chris

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