f8lee wrote:
There are two reasons more and more software vendors are moving to the subscription model:
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And they don't have to pay for retail packaging and distribution.
Longshadow wrote:
And they don't have to pay for retail packaging and distribution.
That is not the driver behind the change - again, when you're talking about multi million dollar ERP systems those babies never came in a cardboard box
f8lee wrote:
That is not the driver behind the change - again, when you're talking about multi million dollar ERP systems those babies never came in a cardboard box
No, they didn't.
But I believe most people here are conversing about what used to come in a box at places like Office Depot and Best Buy, not "corporate use" software.
jerryc41 wrote:
Say what you want about how great Adobe's subscription plan is - all that software for the price of a cup of coffee. Unfortunately, Adobe has shown other software companies that they no longer have to sell software. They can rent it on a monthly basis. Programs that you used to be able to buy and use forever and now available only by subscription. I just saw an online ad for Doodly, an animated drawing program. Just out of curiosity, I went to their website. I saw prices of $39 and $69. Not bad, I thought. Then I saw that those were the monthly charges.
I've been using Quicken for over twenty years, but now it's by subscription only, and it's the same with most anti-virus programs. $10 a month isn't much, but when you multiply that by ten or twenty, you're into big bucks.
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Try Moneydance instead of Quicken. Its different but it works.
Longshadow wrote:
No, they didn't.
But I believe most people here are conversing about what used to come in a box at places like Office Depot and Best Buy, not "corporate use" software.
Fine. Feel free to be “right”
But the points I made are the major drivers here
f8lee wrote:
Fine. Feel free to be “right”
But the points I made are the major drivers here
Never said you were wrong, did I...
jerryc41 wrote:
Say what you want about how great Adobe's subscription plan is - all that software for the price of a cup of coffee. Unfortunately, Adobe has shown other software companies that they no longer have to sell software. They can rent it on a monthly basis. Programs that you used to be able to buy and use forever and now available only by subscription. I just saw an online ad for Doodly, an animated drawing program. Just out of curiosity, I went to their website. I saw prices of $39 and $69. Not bad, I thought. Then I saw that those were the monthly charges.
I've been using Quicken for over twenty years, but now it's by subscription only, and it's the same with most anti-virus programs. $10 a month isn't much, but when you multiply that by ten or twenty, you're into big bucks.
Say what you want about how great Adobe's subscrip... (
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Hi:
The primary reason Adobe moved to the subscription model is to avoid illegal copying (and also to make it easier to provide updates and support). Adobe was losing a lot of revenue when the password creating software was hacked and many such unscrupulous programmers could create a program that created new passwords that would work. So you make a copy of the Adobe software and give it to your friend and also give him a new password! And Adobe loses a sale.
I have worked for a couple of software companies and am quite aware of how much revenue the company can lose when illegal copies flood the market.
It is easy to complain about "high" prices and complain about Adobe gouging the clients, but you would have a different opinion if you owned or worked for a software company where your income depended on the revenue from the software you developed after spending a ton of money.
Cameraman
Nigel7
Loc: Worcestershire. UK.
Probably the biggest reason is that so many of our fellow photographers were using pirated copies of the old software, basically stealing from Adobe. I've seen speakers ask a room of around 60 club members how many had legal copies and probably less than 5 hands went up. We reap what we sow!!
47greyfox
Loc: on the edge of the Colorado front range
jerryc41 wrote:
Say what you want about how great Adobe's subscription plan is - all that software for the price of a cup of coffee. Unfortunately, Adobe has shown other software companies that they no longer have to sell software. They can rent it on a monthly basis. Programs that you used to be able to buy and use forever and now available only by subscription. I just saw an online ad for Doodly, an animated drawing program. Just out of curiosity, I went to their website. I saw prices of $39 and $69. Not bad, I thought. Then I saw that those were the monthly charges.
I've been using Quicken for over twenty years, but now it's by subscription only, and it's the same with most anti-virus programs. $10 a month isn't much, but when you multiply that by ten or twenty, you're into big bucks.
Say what you want about how great Adobe's subscrip... (
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Yupper, I currently use Quicken 2011 and don't intend to ever upgrade for the very reason you mention. As for anti-virus, my opinion is that they aren't needed and may be just as harmful as beneficial (maybe, more so).
Windows 10 has an excellent anti-virus program that's free.
47greyfox
Loc: on the edge of the Colorado front range
bobforman wrote:
Windows 10 has an excellent anti-virus program that's free.
Ooops, you're right. I forgot to mention it in my thread posting. The free Windows Security is the only one I use. Anything else is wasting money, IMHO.
But with the subscription model Adobe uses, they can dictate what level of computer and operating system you are able to use with it. If it is too old, they will say you must upgrade your resources to make it so it will be able to operate in that environment. Otherwise, you have paid a subscription price for something you are no longer approved to use. So, beware. It might have been good before, and able to save them from piracy, but then, I guess, they found too many people having issues using the new software with older computers and operating systems, and decided that you would only be able to use it with the newer stuff, and only one or two, maybe three, if you are extremely fortunate. I do not use Adobe's subscription, but this is what I have seen with friends in multiple situations, and once they have said, that is that, and if you do not meet their requirements, you are out of luck.
The subscription cost is less than the cost of a cup of coffee. If every program on your computer became a subscription, how many cups of coffee would that be? The coffee industry would go bankrupt because everyone gave up drinking coffee to pay for computer programs. Would there be enough left over to pay for internet so you could access the programs to use them?
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