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Oct 30, 2020 11:15:54   #
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Jim Bianco wrote:
My set up, nikon D7100, 60mm 2.8 D macro lens, 24- 85 afs 3.5-4.5 vr, 12-24 F/4 afs, and 70-300 Afs Vr ed lens. That's all I will ever need to fill my spectrum of photography.


Unfortunately that doesn’t address the theme of Walkabout Primes. Thaz just a typical “UHH Approved” bag of zooms. The whole idea here is to leave all that dreck behind. A fast 24 would form a fine pair of primes along with your 60.

From 24 to 60 is quite a gap, the type of gap that zoom-dependent users refuse to face. Just try facing it. I find it makes me do much more (naked eye) looking and much less shooting.

Less shooting ? LESS ? Yup. “Quantity” is just a misspelling of “Quality” ;-)

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Last week I went extreme, carrying just an 11 and a 135. Did a whole lotta terrific looking ... really great looking. Pix ? Zero, but I’m verrrrrry choosy. Someone else might have chosen to shoot anyway.

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Oct 30, 2020 12:58:22   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
My favorite for walking around is my Leica with a 35mm f/2.8 or 50mm f/2.

I'll add that, for me, walk around implies street.
--Bob
LWW wrote:
Much talk goes around about a one lens walk around rig.

Although I do have one with a NIKKOR 18-200, any 11:1 zoom has compromises. This setup is fine for snapshots, zoos and the like ... but when I do more serious work, here is my walk around ‘HUMAN CAMERA BAG’ setup.

First off, use a DOMKE PHOTOGS VEST for warmer weather and their jacket for cooler weather. With plenty of large pockets and awesome weight distribution these allow easy carrying of multiple primes.

DSLR - NIKON D7200 with MB-D15 grip. Easy vertical shots, plenty of battery power and light enough all things considered.

TELEPHOTO - NIKKOR 180 AF-D 2.8. Fast, razor sharp, very light for a 270 FF equivalent. Great for indoor and outdoor sports and adequate for birding and most wildlife.

MEDIUM TELEPHOTO - NIKKOR 85 AF-D 2.8D. Same as the 180 other than shorter, so birding is mostly out.

SHORT TELEPHOTO: NIKKOR 50 1.8 AFD. Toted for the odd portrait. Great museum lens.

‘NORMAL’ LENS: NIKKOR 35 1.8 AFS.

LANDSCAPE: NIKKOR 10-20 AFP. I know it’s a zoom but it’s tiny, light, sharp and quite versatile.

EXTRAS: A few CPLs, occasionally NIKON 10X50 binoculars.

OPTIONAL: A NIKKOR 28-105 AFD MICRO in place of the 50 if I anticipate some closeup opportunities.
Much talk goes around about a one lens walk around... (show quote)

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Oct 30, 2020 13:05:44   #
timoore Loc: Bordeaux, France
 
LWW wrote:
Much talk goes around about a one lens walk around rig.

Although I do have one with a NIKKOR 18-200, any 11:1 zoom has compromises. This setup is fine for snapshots, zoos and the like ... but when I do more serious work, here is my walk around ‘HUMAN CAMERA BAG’ setup.

First off, use a DOMKE PHOTOGS VEST for warmer weather and their jacket for cooler weather. With plenty of large pockets and awesome weight distribution these allow easy carrying of multiple primes.

DSLR - NIKON D7200 with MB-D15 grip. Easy vertical shots, plenty of battery power and light enough all things considered.

TELEPHOTO - NIKKOR 180 AF-D 2.8. Fast, razor sharp, very light for a 270 FF equivalent. Great for indoor and outdoor sports and adequate for birding and most wildlife.

MEDIUM TELEPHOTO - NIKKOR 85 AF-D 2.8D. Same as the 180 other than shorter, so birding is mostly out.

SHORT TELEPHOTO: NIKKOR 50 1.8 AFD. Toted for the odd portrait. Great museum lens.

‘NORMAL’ LENS: NIKKOR 35 1.8 AFS.

LANDSCAPE: NIKKOR 10-20 AFP. I know it’s a zoom but it’s tiny, light, sharp and quite versatile.

EXTRAS: A few CPLs, occasionally NIKON 10X50 binoculars.

OPTIONAL: A NIKKOR 28-105 AFD MICRO in place of the 50 if I anticipate some closeup opportunities.
Much talk goes around about a one lens walk around... (show quote)


I own some of these lenses, or older versions of them, and I confirm that they are excellent in the context of both APS-C and full frame. the 180mm 2.8 is a classic; I've taken some of my most memorable photos with it. But that 28-105 there... that's displaced my 50mm 1.8, currently sitting on the shelf. Do you really find that the primes are so much better that you wouldn't walk around with just the 10-20, 28-105, and 180?

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Oct 30, 2020 13:44:28   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
LWW wrote:
Much talk goes around about a one lens walk around rig.

Although I do have one with a NIKKOR 18-200, any 11:1 zoom has compromises. This setup is fine for snapshots, zoos and the like ... but when I do more serious work, here is my walk around ‘HUMAN CAMERA BAG’ setup.

First off, use a DOMKE PHOTOGS VEST for warmer weather and their jacket for cooler weather. With plenty of large pockets and awesome weight distribution these allow easy carrying of multiple primes.

DSLR - NIKON D7200 with MB-D15 grip. Easy vertical shots, plenty of battery power and light enough all things considered.

TELEPHOTO - NIKKOR 180 AF-D 2.8. Fast, razor sharp, very light for a 270 FF equivalent. Great for indoor and outdoor sports and adequate for birding and most wildlife.

MEDIUM TELEPHOTO - NIKKOR 85 AF-D 2.8D. Same as the 180 other than shorter, so birding is mostly out.

SHORT TELEPHOTO: NIKKOR 50 1.8 AFD. Toted for the odd portrait. Great museum lens.

‘NORMAL’ LENS: NIKKOR 35 1.8 AFS.

LANDSCAPE: NIKKOR 10-20 AFP. I know it’s a zoom but it’s tiny, light, sharp and quite versatile.

EXTRAS: A fewCPLs, occasionally NIKON 10X50 binoculars.

OPTIONAL: A NIKKOR 28-105 AFD MICRO in place of the 50 if I anticipate some closeup opportunities.
Much talk goes around about a one lens walk around... (show quote)


My walk around camera is the Sony HX99, has a 24-750 mm Zeiss lens, gives me 30X40 prints.
My walk around camera in the Florida wetlands is the Sony 600mm f4 and the Sony a7rIV.

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Oct 30, 2020 14:29:49   #
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timoore wrote:
I own some of these lenses, or older versions of them, and I confirm that they are excellent in the context of both APS-C and full frame. the 180mm 2.8 is a classic; I've taken some of my most memorable photos with it. But that 28-105 there... that's displaced my 50mm 1.8, currently sitting on the shelf. Do you really find that the primes are so much better that you wouldn't walk around with just the 10-20, 28-105, and 180?

As someone who also casually carries a kit of about two primes (+/-) I would remind you that “better” is hardly barely hinted at by DXO charts and reports. “Better” is about results, not optical technology. The user interaction with prime lenses, and with the scene or subject, is different than with zoom lenses.

To go a step further, some will use primes ... especial non-AF versions ... with a compact LV camera. This further alters the user interaction as compared to an SLR with a zoom. It’s a different working experience, and for some it’s an improved working experience. But only for some.

Improved experience tends to yield improved results. THAT is the sense in which these prime-only kits can be “better”. And acoarst it shows in the results. Such kits are only better for certain users. Definitely not for all.

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Oct 30, 2020 14:49:16   #
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billnikon wrote:
My walk around camera is the Sony HX99, has a 24-750 mm Zeiss lens, gives me 30X40 prints.
My walk around camera in the Florida wetlands is the Sony 600mm f4 and the Sony a7rIV.


So you have don’t have a “walk about prime” kit ? You can slap an older prime on that Sony for little more than pocket lint. You might like it ... or not, but the cost of finding out is negligible.

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Oct 30, 2020 21:57:29   #
Cherihorn Loc: Toledo
 
My walk about kit starts out with my 100, 16-35, 150-600 and then I’m flat out - and my poor husband becomes my pack mule while I dream up floating helium filled camera bags (Shark Tank winner for sure)

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Oct 31, 2020 00:13:47   #
btbg
 
LWW wrote:
Much talk goes around about a one lens walk around rig.

Although I do have one with a NIKKOR 18-200, any 11:1 zoom has compromises. This setup is fine for snapshots, zoos and the like ... but when I do more serious work, here is my walk around ‘HUMAN CAMERA BAG’ setup.

First off, use a DOMKE PHOTOGS VEST for warmer weather and their jacket for cooler weather. With plenty of large pockets and awesome weight distribution these allow easy carrying of multiple primes.

DSLR - NIKON D7200 with MB-D15 grip. Easy vertical shots, plenty of battery power and light enough all things considered.

TELEPHOTO - NIKKOR 180 AF-D 2.8. Fast, razor sharp, very light for a 270 FF equivalent. Great for indoor and outdoor sports and adequate for birding and most wildlife.

MEDIUM TELEPHOTO - NIKKOR 85 AF-D 2.8D. Same as the 180 other than shorter, so birding is mostly out.

SHORT TELEPHOTO: NIKKOR 50 1.8 AFD. Toted for the odd portrait. Great museum lens.

‘NORMAL’ LENS: NIKKOR 35 1.8 AFS.

LANDSCAPE: NIKKOR 10-20 AFP. I know it’s a zoom but it’s tiny, light, sharp and quite versatile.

EXTRAS: A few CPLs, occasionally NIKON 10X50 binoculars.

OPTIONAL: A NIKKOR 28-105 AFD MICRO in place of the 50 if I anticipate some closeup opportunities.
Much talk goes around about a one lens walk around... (show quote)


That's an interesting group of lenses. My walk around is significantly different, but that doesn't mean one is better than the other. Mine means a lot of extra weight.

Nikon D5, Nikon 12-24 f2.8, Sigma 24-70 f2.8, Nikon 70-200 f2.8, Nikon 85 f2.8 macro, Sigma 105 f1.4, I will leave the Sigma 105 out sometimes since it weighs more than three pounds. I also may bring a Sigma 150-600 sport if there may be wildlife photography. Carry all but those two lenses everywhere I go and usually carry at least one of those. Also carry a Nikon D500 if there is a reason to carry a backup camera. When walking very far I sometimes wish that I had made the choice to cut down on weight as you have.

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Oct 31, 2020 01:40:40   #
Bruce M Loc: Northern Utah
 
[quote=LWW]Much talk goes around about a one lens walk around rig.

Although I do have one with a NIKKOR 18-200, any 11:1 zoom has compromises. This setup is fine for snapshots, zoos and the like ... but when I do more serious work, here is my walk around ‘HUMAN CAMERA BAG’ setup.

First off, use a DOMKE PHOTOGS VEST for warmer weather and their jacket for cooler weather. With plenty of large pockets and awesome weight distribution these allow easy carrying of multiple primes.

DSLR - NIKON D7200 with MB-D15 grip. Easy vertical shots, plenty of battery power and light enough all things considered.

TELEPHOTO - NIKKOR 180 AF-D 2.8. Fast, razor sharp, very light for a 270 FF equivalent. Great for indoor and outdoor sports and adequate for birding and most wildlife.

MEDIUM TELEPHOTO - NIKKOR 85 AF-D 2.8D. Same as the 180 other than shorter, so birding is mostly out.

SHORT TELEPHOTO: NIKKOR 50 1.8 AFD. Toted for the odd portrait. Great museum lens.

‘NORMAL’ LENS: NIKKOR 35 1.8 AFS.

LANDSCAPE: NIKKOR 10-20 AFP. I know it’s a zoom but it’s tiny, light, sharp and quite versatile.

EXTRAS: A few CPLs, occasionally NIKON 10X50 binoculars.

OPTIONAL: A NIKKOR 28-105 AFD MICRO in place of the 50 if I anticipate some closeup opportunities.[/quote
I have a horse you could borrow to pack all that stuff.

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Oct 31, 2020 02:57:51   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
[quote=Bruce M][quote=LWW]Much talk goes around about a one lens walk around rig.

Although I do have one with a NIKKOR 18-200, any 11:1 zoom has compromises. This setup is fine for snapshots, zoos and the like ... but when I do more serious work, here is my walk around ‘HUMAN CAMERA BAG’ setup.

First off, use a DOMKE PHOTOGS VEST for warmer weather and their jacket for cooler weather. With plenty of large pockets and awesome weight distribution these allow easy carrying of multiple primes.

DSLR - NIKON D7200 with MB-D15 grip. Easy vertical shots, plenty of battery power and light enough all things considered.

TELEPHOTO - NIKKOR 180 AF-D 2.8. Fast, razor sharp, very light for a 270 FF equivalent. Great for indoor and outdoor sports and adequate for birding and most wildlife.

MEDIUM TELEPHOTO - NIKKOR 85 AF-D 2.8D. Same as the 180 other than shorter, so birding is mostly out.

SHORT TELEPHOTO: NIKKOR 50 1.8 AFD. Toted for the odd portrait. Great museum lens.

‘NORMAL’ LENS: NIKKOR 35 1.8 AFS.

LANDSCAPE: NIKKOR 10-20 AFP. I know it’s a zoom but it’s tiny, light, sharp and quite versatile.

EXTRAS: A few CPLs, occasionally NIKON 10X50 binoculars.

OPTIONAL: A NIKKOR 28-105 AFD MICRO in place of the 50 if I anticipate some closeup opportunities.[/quote
I have a horse you could borrow to pack all that stuff.[/quote]

You should check weights, this has been discussed.

The 5 primes are under 3 pounds total.

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Oct 31, 2020 05:03:15   #
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Well this thread has prematurely gone off the rails, way off into zoom lens land. The illiterate UHH lemming herd has swarmed in a bit earlier than usual.

Usually a thread can get through page three more or less intact. Who gives a ratzazz about the useless info that a hord of lemmings all buy the same zooms to all take the same pictures ? Is that news ?? Is it ideas ??

Apparently they all like seeing their gear inventory lists posted for each other. I spoze thaz how they check to make sure everyone toes the party line.

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Oct 31, 2020 05:30:46   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
User ID wrote:
Well this thread has prematurely gone off the rails, off into zoom lens land. The illiterate UHH lemming herd has swarmed in a bit earlier than usual.

Usually a thread can get through page three more or less intact. Who gives a ratzazz about the useless info that a hord of lemmings all buy the same zooms to all take the same pictures ? Is that news ?? Is it ideas ??

Apparently they all like seeing their inventory lists posted for each other. I spoze thaz how they check to make sure everyone toes the party line.
Well this thread has prematurely gone off the rail... (show quote)


Zooms have their place.

But if you have a need for speed and bokeh, that isn’t their place.

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Oct 31, 2020 05:41:45   #
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LWW wrote:
Zooms have their place.

But if you have a need for speed and bokeh, that isn’t their place.


Just lamenting that although the thread title is easy enough for any third grader to read, and that most threads stay on-topic for about three pages, this one didn’t even get that far :-(

Acoarst I use zoom lenses. Everybody does. Thaz just yesterday’s news.

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Oct 31, 2020 06:59:07   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
User ID wrote:
Just lamenting that although the thread title is easy enough for any third grader to read, and that most threads stay on-topic for about three pages, this one didn’t even get that far :-(

Acoarst I use zoom lenses. Everybody does. Thaz just yesterday’s news.


I do t think a lot of members have ever used a prime lens.

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Oct 31, 2020 11:35:27   #
RWR Loc: La Mesa, CA
 
LWW wrote:
Much talk goes around about a one lens walk around rig.
Although I do have one with a NIKKOR 18-200, any 11:1 zoom has compromises. This setup is fine for snapshots, zoos and the like ... but when I do more serious work, here is my walk around ‘HUMAN CAMERA BAG’ setup.
First off, use a DOMKE PHOTOGS VEST for warmer weather and their jacket for cooler weather. With plenty of large pockets and awesome weight distribution these allow easy carrying of multiple primes.
DSLR - NIKON D7200 with MB-D15 grip. Easy vertical shots, plenty of battery power and light enough all things considered.
TELEPHOTO - NIKKOR 180 AF-D 2.8. Fast, razor sharp, very light for a 270 FF equivalent. Great for indoor and outdoor sports and adequate for birding and most wildlife.
MEDIUM TELEPHOTO - NIKKOR 85 AF-D 2.8D. Same as the 180 other than shorter, so birding is mostly out.
SHORT TELEPHOTO: NIKKOR 50 1.8 AFD. Toted for the odd portrait. Great museum lens.
‘NORMAL’ LENS: NIKKOR 35 1.8 AFS.
LANDSCAPE: NIKKOR 10-20 AFP. I know it’s a zoom but it’s tiny, light, sharp and quite versatile.
EXTRAS: A few CPLs, occasionally NIKON 10X50 binoculars.
OPTIONAL: A NIKKOR 28-105 AFD MICRO in place of the 50 if I anticipate some closeup opportunities.
Much talk goes around about a one lens walk around... (show quote)

When I hear “walk around” I usually think of someone who has no clue why they’re carrying a camera, but I have to admit that some of my best shots were unplanned, and I like to be prepared for most anything. So, in addition to whatever gear I may have for a particular purpose, my kit includes the tripod, an FX camera, 50mm lens, a set of extension tubes and either a 90 and 180mm lens, or a 135 and 250mm lens. When in the mountains, I also carry either a 400 of 560mm lens head with sliding tube focus mount for handheld use.

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