NOT A CLUE!
Oct 9, 2012 18:11:01 #
[quote=sloscheider]I will offer up a 3rd alternative - You have a Minolta 7000 which is a fairly modern 35mm SLR film camera with auto focus lenses - if they are Minolta brand lenses they were good lenses and more importantly will work, I think, with the current line of Sony digital SLR cameras. IF you inclined to purchase new perhaps this would be a good way to go...
I'm a Nikon guy so I'm hoping some Sony folks can chime in a confirm me belief that Minolta AF lenses are compatible with Sony DSLR body's?
I shoot with Sony bodies and I have a minolta 50mm 1.7,a 28mm 2.8 and the 70-200mm beercan.These are great lenses and I use them a great deal. Just did some weddings and the 50mm 1.7 is a great lens for low light.
So I would suggest finding one of the Sony alpha system bodies new or used and using the lenses that you have. Get some shooting under your belt before you spend a great deal of money on a camera and lenses from another manufacture. Not all minolta lenses will work on sony cameras but a good deal will work on the Sony alpha system camera bodies, any good camera store should be able to help you out and there are Sony sites that can help you out also. Good luck in your quest. I am still learning a great deal about photography but I enjoy learning.
I'm a Nikon guy so I'm hoping some Sony folks can chime in a confirm me belief that Minolta AF lenses are compatible with Sony DSLR body's?
I shoot with Sony bodies and I have a minolta 50mm 1.7,a 28mm 2.8 and the 70-200mm beercan.These are great lenses and I use them a great deal. Just did some weddings and the 50mm 1.7 is a great lens for low light.
So I would suggest finding one of the Sony alpha system bodies new or used and using the lenses that you have. Get some shooting under your belt before you spend a great deal of money on a camera and lenses from another manufacture. Not all minolta lenses will work on sony cameras but a good deal will work on the Sony alpha system camera bodies, any good camera store should be able to help you out and there are Sony sites that can help you out also. Good luck in your quest. I am still learning a great deal about photography but I enjoy learning.
Oct 9, 2012 19:43:06 #
Oct 9, 2012 21:53:48 #
dadschild wrote:
I have a Minolta 7000 with 50mm I think. It's been... (show quote)
Get the book "Understanding Exposure" by Bryan Peterson. This book will get you up and running.
Oct 9, 2012 22:02:43 #
dadschild
Loc: Methuen, Ma
Thank you! So far so good with help from you guys. Got info for books, videos, sites, lessons & got'em bookmarked too!
Don't forget to play nice, guys!
Don't forget to play nice, guys!
Oct 9, 2012 23:38:21 #
sloscheider wrote:
I will offer up a 3rd alternative - You have a Min... (show quote)
You are correct. I have a Minolta 7000 series 28-100mm zoom for my Sony Alpha 55 and it works perfectly. The Sony lenses are built on the same Minolta standard because they have owned Konica/Minolta since 2006.
The best dollar value would be for this author to buy a Sony Alpha 33 or 55 because they are discontinued models and are very inexpensive but yet have almost all the features and specifications of the newer models that replaced them. A kit would include an 18-55 zoom, and the other two lenses the author has would create a nice little starter system.
Oct 10, 2012 01:20:31 #
You have the right terminology F/stop refers to aperture setting the smaller the # The bigger the shutter opening letting in more light the bigger picture is on DSLR's is the exposure and shutter speed and aperture setting I've only 3 months in a college photo digital imaging course and I learned a lot You Tube is very resourceful for any or all you need to to know tutorials I did some waterfalls and studied for a month or so took a folder of notes but did not need them Longer exposure is the key or at least one, a tripod a must a remote control for the camera and 1 1/2 to 2 , 2 1/2 to 3 second shutter speed to create cool effects.
one of my first
Oct 10, 2012 03:28:36 #
dadschild
Loc: Methuen, Ma
Mr. Rebel,
Nice picture! Can you explain the shutter thing a little more for the seconds thing? In hiding? LOL >>Where? *~*
SLR? DSLR? Difference? Nooo, I'm not stupid! Just unfamiliar
with tech terms! Thanks!
Nice picture! Can you explain the shutter thing a little more for the seconds thing? In hiding? LOL >>Where? *~*
SLR? DSLR? Difference? Nooo, I'm not stupid! Just unfamiliar
with tech terms! Thanks!
Oct 10, 2012 03:49:36 #
Okay as I am new to this SLR in older cameras Single lens Reflex on older film cameras has a retracting mirror to protect image as you view when you click you activate shutter and mirror retracts and sends to film : DSLR doesn't use film and modern cameras have an assortment of options that will take time out of your day to learn and research to perfect with practice especially the Aperture =F/stop it allows light more or less as well as the shutter speed and exposure compensation modern DSLR's also have a retracting mirror and you have to be careful not to get dust or dirt it or the lens if you don't have a digital photo editor it can be disappointing as I have had to fix spots spent $50.00 just to have my camera cleaned and that's cheap compared to other places that charge a lot more.
here's another a faster shutter speed
Oct 10, 2012 06:03:58 #
I too shoot sony (I have an A300) and on top of my sony lenses have a minolta 50mm 1.7, an 28-80mm with Macro, and a 75-200mm all 3 minolta lenses work perfectly with my A300 and the first two i mentioned are actually my favorite lenses. the image quality is excellent. on top of the A33 and A55 which were recommended above, I would also recommend the A300 as this too can be picked up fairly cheaply (dont know about US prices but here in the UK it can be bought incredibly cheaply) and IMO is a very easy camera to use for a beginner.
Oct 10, 2012 08:14:39 #
hecsas
Loc: braintree uk
I never look at my screen because the image shown is jpeg and I shoot in raw, I learnt from a film camera to make sure you got the lighting rite before u took the shot, and I always wait til I get home to view my shots
Oct 10, 2012 08:17:45 #
To dadschild
From rts2568
Thanks for this sunset photo you've submitted as an example, dadschild. It offers us something about you to work with but still deprives us of much. Let me raise a couple of points that just might help you come to a decision about your original question, helped along by my hacking up of your lake sunset shot - purely as an example you realize. Youll also appreciate of course dadschild, that Ive reduced the size & resolution to save space when presenting this returned example.
Wishing you in advance also, with whatever decision you make for your future photography, and if, when you obtain whatever camera gear you end up with, especially if you wont be happy with the rehash of your photograph, you will still be able to venture the 9 odd miles to Lake Canibie or Canobie? Youve spelt it the former way, we over here spell it the latter, or maybe it was just a typo?
Its interesting too, that you mention a 400 mm lens Minolta 400?. This sort of super telephoto is suggestive of capturing photos of birds and the like? You being so close to a river and to the Lake which you used for your sunset scene see attached Lake Canopie also hints at a search for that perfect photo of a bird or birds? Maybe Im wrong of course, you may only have used it for close up work? Yes indeed, it is very difficult to advise when we know little or nothing about your photographic aims hells bells, you probably only used the 400 to take photos of planes taking off from your local airfield across the river?
Sorry about your 90% loss, but I do so hope it wasnt 90% of your photo-gear?
Downloading?
You wrote: if I can download my camera Im sure most of us here at UHH understand what you meant by that youre talking digital, so thats a good start, now isnt it? You meant of course, for those who didnt understand what you meant, that you were wondering how to send a photo to UHH and or by email to friends etc? Of course you did, so therefore we are all impressed Im sure, that you put your thinking cap on and sent one anyway, via your Sony Cyber Shot (Model???). Now that effort, to anyone I suggest, has to be a good sign that will encourage good feedback from UHH members who understand what they are talking about! I hope that youll be impressed too and feel helped.
This point of course, that you are already talking digital is rather suggestive, dont you think? You are thinking about the benefits of changing to digital, that little brain manager in its tower of neuron activity is telling you, get digital, get digital. And of course all will agree here that you are wanting to send via the internet, and they may want to advise you to consider changing to digital, if for no other reason than the thought of the cost of converting a scanned, copied or digitized neg or tranny to digital is an expensive and time consuming path. If you only want or aim to stick with prints on your wall for your own edification, or for those visitors you invite, then you can still stick with your Minolta 7000 as modern as it is, the results from it to eventually send as digital will be wasting your time and spare cash.
One thought to cogitate on here, if you do decide to go digital camera anyway, whether or not you make use of your existing Minolta lenses, just keep in mind the quality of those Minolta lenses so long as they are not growing mould now, having been locked away for so long, so you will need to ensure that a digital cameras sensor must reflect, via whatever lens system you end up with, that is produces the sort of end quality imagery you expected as Im sure you managed in those good old days of film, when you shot with your Minolta lenses. This is just a reminder to look ahead while choosing the path you take from here, as Lighthouse has already suggested anyway while pointing you towards a new start with digital.
Of course, if you are going to stick with your Minolta 7000, as Sharpshooter so wisely suggested, then any thought of digital has no place in your thinking, in the short term anyway.
Yes, I know, I got mixed up with Sixshooter & Lighthouse in my previous reply to you, Im so sorry about that, must have confused everyone well everyone other than Lighthouse who was awake enough to pick my fault and very quickly and gently, point out my mistake. Come fog or high water, lighthouse remains switched on, something I clearly wasnt, at 3AM this morning.
Proffessional Painter (sorry, Professional Painter)
As a painter, Im only assuming here, that you are telling us here that you are, like us photographers, an artist? If Im wrong and you are merely a house painter or the like, then you can ignore the next paragraph.
There are artists out there, whether they prefer water colours, oils or acrylic or what-have-you, who work, either partially, or exclusively from photographs which they have taken themselves or stolen from a Photographers work of art in its own right. If you paint from your own pictures then you will be looking for basic composition and colour and to hell with everything else. A real Photographic artist might very well throw out images that you, as an artist-painter might alternatively treasure for its inspirational importance. We simply dont know yet if you are just wanting to produce a record of your oil paintings for instance, where a scan of a print would be enough or, as Ive said elsewhere, just taking a photo of something that appeals to you so that you can, for example, do an oil of it. Either of these purposes I would think, will suggest you save your money and stick with the Minolta 7000 and film for as long as you can get film processed anyway. If you are actually into, or wanting to get into the art of pure photography for its own sake, then digital would surely be foremost in your mind. And etc . Perhaps you might like to fill us in a bit on this aspect of your aims it will help some of us advise accordingly and from those feedbacks, help other UHHers too, who are similarly wallowing in the caldron of indecision between the learning about a new(or S/H) digital system or saving serious money by using your existing SLR/s and lenses.
Horizon & blur
So, does the horizontal horizon matter? Under the circumstances I suggest not. We simply dont know how or why you sent the photo, other than as a sample of a photo you took. Maybe you did send it to have it criticized, to point out that you must be half blind, that you probably fell over immediately after taking the photo, that you clearly didnt use a tripod yes I think most of us saw this exaggerated blur. So was it this?
Perhaps on the other hand you thought that we had already figured out that you didnt care, that youve assumed that weve read your profile and assumed that because of your artistic endeabours for your oils on canvas and that you kept this one for your art only?
Maybe the blur is simply because you slipped, youd dropped your glasses in the lake, or you didnt put macro on, on your Sony camera when taking this copy, etc, etc. Just maybe this is only a portion of the original? Too many questions with no answers for us to base an opinion on.
Composition
Having mentioned the above about the quality of your submission; I must offer a note on the composition. When you go back to Lake Canopie and are lucky enough to be there at Sunset, or Sunrise again, as I feel sure you are going to do, considering it is so close to you, walking distance for some, then Id suggest that you consider taking this shot from slightly different positions in this case in particular, I venture you move about six feet to the left. Just a thought mind you and Im sure many will offer to disagree. The point being, especially with digital which is so cheap per shot to use, perspectives can change a lot with very little movements and often capture surprisingly different compositions when you re-examine your shoot.
But then, thinking about what info you have given us, especially about your existing gear, I have to wonder if Im not trying to teach grandma how to suck eggs?
The attached, if it comes down in this form as Im sending it, you will notice that my alterations may be satisfactory for your purposes or at least is suggestive of same. This will tell you a lot about one at least, of the REAL advantages of digital images, very quickly downloaded from your camera. The post editing phenomenon. In those far back film days you thought you were in that heaven of post manipulation with your B&W or colour enlarger, that wonderful, lung rotting smell of chemicals and a at hand, box of light proofed papers, or more than one if you were rich enough. Digital post editing is in another heaven of its own, far, far above. It is much quicker as well. But if you are only going to paint from it, then most of the above can be ignored?
Tonight Im going to get to bed earlier. Hope this offering is of some mind stabilizing worth. Sorry for any mistakes, if like lastnight.
rts2568
From rts2568
Thanks for this sunset photo you've submitted as an example, dadschild. It offers us something about you to work with but still deprives us of much. Let me raise a couple of points that just might help you come to a decision about your original question, helped along by my hacking up of your lake sunset shot - purely as an example you realize. Youll also appreciate of course dadschild, that Ive reduced the size & resolution to save space when presenting this returned example.
Wishing you in advance also, with whatever decision you make for your future photography, and if, when you obtain whatever camera gear you end up with, especially if you wont be happy with the rehash of your photograph, you will still be able to venture the 9 odd miles to Lake Canibie or Canobie? Youve spelt it the former way, we over here spell it the latter, or maybe it was just a typo?
Its interesting too, that you mention a 400 mm lens Minolta 400?. This sort of super telephoto is suggestive of capturing photos of birds and the like? You being so close to a river and to the Lake which you used for your sunset scene see attached Lake Canopie also hints at a search for that perfect photo of a bird or birds? Maybe Im wrong of course, you may only have used it for close up work? Yes indeed, it is very difficult to advise when we know little or nothing about your photographic aims hells bells, you probably only used the 400 to take photos of planes taking off from your local airfield across the river?
Sorry about your 90% loss, but I do so hope it wasnt 90% of your photo-gear?
Downloading?
You wrote: if I can download my camera Im sure most of us here at UHH understand what you meant by that youre talking digital, so thats a good start, now isnt it? You meant of course, for those who didnt understand what you meant, that you were wondering how to send a photo to UHH and or by email to friends etc? Of course you did, so therefore we are all impressed Im sure, that you put your thinking cap on and sent one anyway, via your Sony Cyber Shot (Model???). Now that effort, to anyone I suggest, has to be a good sign that will encourage good feedback from UHH members who understand what they are talking about! I hope that youll be impressed too and feel helped.
This point of course, that you are already talking digital is rather suggestive, dont you think? You are thinking about the benefits of changing to digital, that little brain manager in its tower of neuron activity is telling you, get digital, get digital. And of course all will agree here that you are wanting to send via the internet, and they may want to advise you to consider changing to digital, if for no other reason than the thought of the cost of converting a scanned, copied or digitized neg or tranny to digital is an expensive and time consuming path. If you only want or aim to stick with prints on your wall for your own edification, or for those visitors you invite, then you can still stick with your Minolta 7000 as modern as it is, the results from it to eventually send as digital will be wasting your time and spare cash.
One thought to cogitate on here, if you do decide to go digital camera anyway, whether or not you make use of your existing Minolta lenses, just keep in mind the quality of those Minolta lenses so long as they are not growing mould now, having been locked away for so long, so you will need to ensure that a digital cameras sensor must reflect, via whatever lens system you end up with, that is produces the sort of end quality imagery you expected as Im sure you managed in those good old days of film, when you shot with your Minolta lenses. This is just a reminder to look ahead while choosing the path you take from here, as Lighthouse has already suggested anyway while pointing you towards a new start with digital.
Of course, if you are going to stick with your Minolta 7000, as Sharpshooter so wisely suggested, then any thought of digital has no place in your thinking, in the short term anyway.
Yes, I know, I got mixed up with Sixshooter & Lighthouse in my previous reply to you, Im so sorry about that, must have confused everyone well everyone other than Lighthouse who was awake enough to pick my fault and very quickly and gently, point out my mistake. Come fog or high water, lighthouse remains switched on, something I clearly wasnt, at 3AM this morning.
Proffessional Painter (sorry, Professional Painter)
As a painter, Im only assuming here, that you are telling us here that you are, like us photographers, an artist? If Im wrong and you are merely a house painter or the like, then you can ignore the next paragraph.
There are artists out there, whether they prefer water colours, oils or acrylic or what-have-you, who work, either partially, or exclusively from photographs which they have taken themselves or stolen from a Photographers work of art in its own right. If you paint from your own pictures then you will be looking for basic composition and colour and to hell with everything else. A real Photographic artist might very well throw out images that you, as an artist-painter might alternatively treasure for its inspirational importance. We simply dont know yet if you are just wanting to produce a record of your oil paintings for instance, where a scan of a print would be enough or, as Ive said elsewhere, just taking a photo of something that appeals to you so that you can, for example, do an oil of it. Either of these purposes I would think, will suggest you save your money and stick with the Minolta 7000 and film for as long as you can get film processed anyway. If you are actually into, or wanting to get into the art of pure photography for its own sake, then digital would surely be foremost in your mind. And etc . Perhaps you might like to fill us in a bit on this aspect of your aims it will help some of us advise accordingly and from those feedbacks, help other UHHers too, who are similarly wallowing in the caldron of indecision between the learning about a new(or S/H) digital system or saving serious money by using your existing SLR/s and lenses.
Horizon & blur
So, does the horizontal horizon matter? Under the circumstances I suggest not. We simply dont know how or why you sent the photo, other than as a sample of a photo you took. Maybe you did send it to have it criticized, to point out that you must be half blind, that you probably fell over immediately after taking the photo, that you clearly didnt use a tripod yes I think most of us saw this exaggerated blur. So was it this?
Perhaps on the other hand you thought that we had already figured out that you didnt care, that youve assumed that weve read your profile and assumed that because of your artistic endeabours for your oils on canvas and that you kept this one for your art only?
Maybe the blur is simply because you slipped, youd dropped your glasses in the lake, or you didnt put macro on, on your Sony camera when taking this copy, etc, etc. Just maybe this is only a portion of the original? Too many questions with no answers for us to base an opinion on.
Composition
Having mentioned the above about the quality of your submission; I must offer a note on the composition. When you go back to Lake Canopie and are lucky enough to be there at Sunset, or Sunrise again, as I feel sure you are going to do, considering it is so close to you, walking distance for some, then Id suggest that you consider taking this shot from slightly different positions in this case in particular, I venture you move about six feet to the left. Just a thought mind you and Im sure many will offer to disagree. The point being, especially with digital which is so cheap per shot to use, perspectives can change a lot with very little movements and often capture surprisingly different compositions when you re-examine your shoot.
But then, thinking about what info you have given us, especially about your existing gear, I have to wonder if Im not trying to teach grandma how to suck eggs?
The attached, if it comes down in this form as Im sending it, you will notice that my alterations may be satisfactory for your purposes or at least is suggestive of same. This will tell you a lot about one at least, of the REAL advantages of digital images, very quickly downloaded from your camera. The post editing phenomenon. In those far back film days you thought you were in that heaven of post manipulation with your B&W or colour enlarger, that wonderful, lung rotting smell of chemicals and a at hand, box of light proofed papers, or more than one if you were rich enough. Digital post editing is in another heaven of its own, far, far above. It is much quicker as well. But if you are only going to paint from it, then most of the above can be ignored?
Tonight Im going to get to bed earlier. Hope this offering is of some mind stabilizing worth. Sorry for any mistakes, if like lastnight.
rts2568
old and new combo
Oct 10, 2012 10:12:21 #
Oct 10, 2012 10:56:57 #
dadschild
Loc: Methuen, Ma
To RTS2568,
Wish I had time to respond to your WHOLE message! I want to thank you & "want to choke you" I'm a Jane of all trades & have worked all areas of construction, worked harder & better than
you guys. Did what I had to, to survive. Never depended on a man. If I meant I was an artist I would of said it, YES I am a professional painter on everything except canvas & am good at all I do & am damm proud of it..
If you want to look down your nose at that I can always rearrange the direction for you...
I have taken "great" pictures for years with my pentex. Have had the minolta w/50mm 20yrs. mold free-great condition, but never learned about all it offers. >>Never learned about f stops, program-s c s t, - +, iso, mode, drive, etc.
AGAIN> I like film for special things like nature, etc. Digital can never replace everything. Digital is great & yes, less work. Also very quick & convienient, etc. Still learning this too. Once learning everything, will match anything you got... For sure!
The 400mm, still need adapter piece, never used it, yet.
Now, you must be close & older! As for Lake Canobie, I took that picture at the dock entrance at Canobie Lake Park... Was a rush pic so didn't have the time to enjoy the moment. Unfortunately your thoughtful letter is not in front of me so I might have missed a few things, but I am happy to send you this! God Bless!
Wish I had time to respond to your WHOLE message! I want to thank you & "want to choke you" I'm a Jane of all trades & have worked all areas of construction, worked harder & better than
you guys. Did what I had to, to survive. Never depended on a man. If I meant I was an artist I would of said it, YES I am a professional painter on everything except canvas & am good at all I do & am damm proud of it..
If you want to look down your nose at that I can always rearrange the direction for you...
I have taken "great" pictures for years with my pentex. Have had the minolta w/50mm 20yrs. mold free-great condition, but never learned about all it offers. >>Never learned about f stops, program-s c s t, - +, iso, mode, drive, etc.
AGAIN> I like film for special things like nature, etc. Digital can never replace everything. Digital is great & yes, less work. Also very quick & convienient, etc. Still learning this too. Once learning everything, will match anything you got... For sure!
The 400mm, still need adapter piece, never used it, yet.
Now, you must be close & older! As for Lake Canobie, I took that picture at the dock entrance at Canobie Lake Park... Was a rush pic so didn't have the time to enjoy the moment. Unfortunately your thoughtful letter is not in front of me so I might have missed a few things, but I am happy to send you this! God Bless!
Oct 10, 2012 17:48:27 #
dadschild wrote:
LOL Keep it coming! Still didn't tell me where your hiding!
dadschild wrote:
LOL Keep it coming! Still didn't tell me where your hiding!
To Dadschild
From rts2568
Just thought I'd pass this on - hope it helps?
Hi there dadschild, one very helpful person 'horseart' helpfully pointed out to me when I first joined, that if you press the "Quote Reply" instead of just the "Quote", (image attached if it helps), then us out here know, better, what thread/name you are following/addressing.
Alternately, when asking a question like this, then do it through the PM (Private Messge) area. You can eliminate confusion this way.
rts2568
Hope this helps
Oct 10, 2012 18:02:56 #
to echo the sentiments above "luck of the draw" yep it is that, also known as tghe school of hard knocks, street college.
Sure works, as does reading everything you can find, looking at great images and emulating them until you get the results you desire.
It is great toi know all the minuta technical information, then there is the philosophy " You do not need to be a metallurgist to use a shovel"
Learn as you are willing, practicve all you can, be critical of your results, ( Not Yourself), keep plugging.
There are tons of schools, lessons, UTUBE videos, might consider asking folks for old photo mag issues, subscribe to one or two, meet other shooters in photo get togethers ( Meetups).
you get out of it, what you put in it, like most things.
ENJOY and post your work up here!
PS I shoot 35mm minolta gear I bought in 1972 as well as newish canon gear
Sure works, as does reading everything you can find, looking at great images and emulating them until you get the results you desire.
It is great toi know all the minuta technical information, then there is the philosophy " You do not need to be a metallurgist to use a shovel"
Learn as you are willing, practicve all you can, be critical of your results, ( Not Yourself), keep plugging.
There are tons of schools, lessons, UTUBE videos, might consider asking folks for old photo mag issues, subscribe to one or two, meet other shooters in photo get togethers ( Meetups).
you get out of it, what you put in it, like most things.
ENJOY and post your work up here!
PS I shoot 35mm minolta gear I bought in 1972 as well as newish canon gear
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