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Sep 19, 2020 12:50:40   #
Lemon Drop Kid Loc: Greeley, CO
 
[quote=Wallen]These are mundane and so-so photos...

...until we find out that they are not really what they are.

Fake? Magic? Art?


Good grief people. Can't we have fun with photography? I have done this numerous times with a neighbor who spends the winter in Arizona. I put him in odd places and write a story to go with the picture. We both look forward to them, as do others to whom he shows them. The inane question -- Fake? Magic? Art? -- is posed and grown men and women take the time to turn it into a discussion akin to what is the meaning of life. It is FUN.

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Sep 20, 2020 07:21:47   #
nanaval Loc: Cornwall
 
I agree Lemon Drop Kid..

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Sep 20, 2020 14:32:24   #
Wallen Loc: Middle Earth
 
Ourspolair wrote:
Pity you did not post larger versions, you seem to have done a nice job of replacing the backgrounds here. If this was done in Photoshop, you did a lot of work to get to the final images. Maybe not so hard if you used other AI-driven software. You pose (sorry, couldn't resist) an interesting question here, which I think we all have to deal with as photo manipulators, including Ansel in his day. How SHOULD we define our work once we start to fundamentally alter the original? My fall-back is that it is art. If we were sitting doing a watercolour by a riverside and there was an electric pylon in the view, I know that I would not include it in the finished product. The finished image is our impression of what we saw, enhanced to make it pleasing to us. If we share it, we show that we are, a: proud enough of what we did to let others view it, b: aware that in a public forum it will not necessarily appeal to everyone (artistically or technically) and c: willing to listen to other peoples point of view (pun not really intended, but I am leaving it in!)
You have opened up a philisophical can of worms, but you are not the first to do so.
Stay well and keep on posting!
Pity you did not post larger versions, you seem to... (show quote)


I don't have a bigger version sorry. It was Photoshop and i am the person in the photo. I set up and guided my companion for the shot in which I specifically posed with the intent of creating the composite afterwards. You've hit the nail in the head about the question & philosophy on how we should treat photo manipulation and that is really what the posted message was about. The thoughts of different minds seing a different angle.

As for the above images, it barely have an artistic treatment so definitely it is not art. Although it was intended & staged when shot, it really was just me bored & goofing about at the car show so i was dreaming of being someone & somewhere else. In the end it was just a technical practice. Just bored & showing off to be honest...

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Sep 20, 2020 14:39:50   #
Wallen Loc: Middle Earth
 
[quote=Lemon Drop Kid]
Wallen wrote:
These are mundane and so-so photos...

...until we find out that they are not really what they are.

Fake? Magic? Art?


Good grief people. Can't we have fun with photography? I have done this numerous times with a neighbor who spends the winter in Arizona. I put him in odd places and write a story to go with the picture. We both look forward to them, as do others to whom he shows them. The inane question -- Fake? Magic? Art? -- is posed and grown men and women take the time to turn it into a discussion akin to what is the meaning of life. It is FUN.
These are mundane and so-so photos... br br ...un... (show quote)


How i envy you for seeing this as fun. I do this when i am bored

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Sep 20, 2020 14:44:16   #
Wallen Loc: Middle Earth
 
Cwilson341 wrote:
Nice work. You did a good job of putting these in more peaceful surroundings!


Thanks. That is actually me in the photo. I set up the shot/scene for my companion to shoot and posed as I was bored and lonely in a crowd...The peace and fresh air was really what i wanted then.

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Sep 20, 2020 14:46:19   #
Wallen Loc: Middle Earth
 
jaymatt wrote:
Nice Raptor! I want one of those. Nice work with the photos, too.


May you get blessed with one
Thanks.

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Sep 20, 2020 14:47:46   #
Wallen Loc: Middle Earth
 
nanaval wrote:
What ever you did a great job..


Thanks

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Sep 21, 2020 21:46:07   #
Flyerace Loc: Mt Pleasant, WI
 
I liked your composites a lot. Great work. I like using this technique when the background is yucky (highly technical term meaning awful).

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Sep 21, 2020 23:14:43   #
Wallen Loc: Middle Earth
 
reguli wrote:
What is the definition of art?. Photography can be used as an art, documentation or telling stories. If your photos are for photojournalism of course they are fake, but if you intended to tell somenthing changing the background, wellcome, it is part of the photography work. I believe the photography is only a mean to express your feeling about reallity and not to show only the real world. Your technical work is very good.



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Sep 21, 2020 23:21:04   #
Wallen Loc: Middle Earth
 
Flyerace wrote:
I liked your composites a lot. Great work. I like using this technique when the background is yucky (highly technical term meaning awful).



Thanks.
Composites can be applied to many circumstance in various degrees of coverage & complexity. Sometimes they improve the image, sometimes not. Like an accessory to the camera, it is really just another tool that is nice to have and learn to use properly.

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