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Sep 13, 2020 11:45:31   #
lyndacast
 
Let me start by saying that I am an amateur photographer and do not sell my photos. I take photography classes and have printed some images for various class shows in 16x20 format. I shoot all my images in RAW and JPEG format and post one or two of them as JPEGS almost daily on FB or on various groups I subscribe to there.

I do a great deal of my editing for quick uploads on my IPad using LR (cloud version) and Photoshop Express. I load my SD card into my MACBOOK to work on RAW files in LR.

I need more storage and find myself ready to upgrade both my IPad and/or MACBOOK, which currently both have a 128g memory capacity. I would like to upgrade to 16g ram and 512g on MacBook Pro, and 512g on IPad.

If I purchased the IPad Pro (12.9”) with 1TB, and a keyboard, wouldn’t I be getting the best of both worlds? I am not sure I would like that set up, since I have always had both IPad and MacBook...but are having both redundant, since I am not doing professional shoots or work?

I am not a real techie, so a lot of technical stuff will escape me, but any advice regarding the IPad and MacBook Pro combo, or the IPadPro with keyboard would be greatly appreciated!

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Sep 13, 2020 12:04:59   #
PixelStan77 Loc: Vermont/Chicago
 
lyndacast wrote:
Let me start by saying that I am an amateur photographer and do not sell my photos. I take photography classes and have printed some images for various class shows in 16x20 format. I shoot all my images in RAW and JPEG format and post one or two of them as JPEGS almost daily on FB or on various groups I subscribe to there.

I do a great deal of my editing for quick uploads on my IPad using LR (cloud version) and Photoshop Express. I load my SD card into my MACBOOK to work on RAW files in LR.

I need more storage and find myself ready to upgrade both my IPad and/or MACBOOK, which currently both have a 128g memory capacity. I would like to upgrade to 16g ram and 512g on MacBook Pro, and 512g on IPad.

If I purchased the IPad Pro (12.9”) with 1TB, and a keyboard, wouldn’t I be getting the best of both worlds? I am not sure I would like that set up, since I have always had both IPad and MacBook...but are having both redundant, since I am not doing professional shoots or work?

I am not a real techie, so a lot of technical stuff will escape me, but any advice regarding the IPad and MacBook Pro combo, or the IPadPro with keyboard would be greatly appreciated!
Let me start by saying that I am an amateur photog... (show quote)


I would upgrade the memory in your MACBOOK

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Sep 13, 2020 12:12:27   #
lyndacast
 
PixelStan, I thought of that but my MacBook is a 2017 and cannot be upgraded....or so I am told.

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Sep 13, 2020 12:19:08   #
PixelStan77 Loc: Vermont/Chicago
 
lyndacast wrote:
PixelStan, I thought of that but my MacBook is a 2017 and cannot be upgraded....or so I am told.


You are right. My Mackooks are 2012 and upgradeable. So, IPad is your choice.

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Sep 13, 2020 12:22:43   #
PixelStan77 Loc: Vermont/Chicago
 
lyndacast wrote:
Let me start by saying that I am an amateur photographer and do not sell my photos. I take photography classes and have printed some images for various class shows in 16x20 format. I shoot all my images in RAW and JPEG format and post one or two of them as JPEGS almost daily on FB or on various groups I subscribe to there.

I do a great deal of my editing for quick uploads on my IPad using LR (cloud version) and Photoshop Express. I load my SD card into my MACBOOK to work on RAW files in LR.

I need more storage and find myself ready to upgrade both my IPad and/or MACBOOK, which currently both have a 128g memory capacity. I would like to upgrade to 16g ram and 512g on MacBook Pro, and 512g on IPad.

If I purchased the IPad Pro (12.9”) with 1TB, and a keyboard, wouldn’t I be getting the best of both worlds? I am not sure I would like that set up, since I have always had both IPad and MacBook...but are having both redundant, since I am not doing professional shoots or work?

I am not a real techie, so a lot of technical stuff will escape me, but any advice regarding the IPad and MacBook Pro combo, or the IPadPro with keyboard would be greatly appreciated!
Let me start by saying that I am an amateur photog... (show quote)


Consider a
The 2012 Non-Retina MacBook Pro Is Still the Best Laptop Apple Sells
It’s heavy, thick, and totally upgradable and customizable.

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Sep 13, 2020 12:28:46   #
PixelStan77 Loc: Vermont/Chicago
 
lyndacast wrote:
Let me start by saying that I am an amateur photographer and do not sell my photos. I take photography classes and have printed some images for various class shows in 16x20 format. I shoot all my images in RAW and JPEG format and post one or two of them as JPEGS almost daily on FB or on various groups I subscribe to there.

I do a great deal of my editing for quick uploads on my IPad using LR (cloud version) and Photoshop Express. I load my SD card into my MACBOOK to work on RAW files in LR.

I need more storage and find myself ready to upgrade both my IPad and/or MACBOOK, which currently both have a 128g memory capacity. I would like to upgrade to 16g ram and 512g on MacBook Pro, and 512g on IPad.

If I purchased the IPad Pro (12.9”) with 1TB, and a keyboard, wouldn’t I be getting the best of both worlds? I am not sure I would like that set up, since I have always had both IPad and MacBook...but are having both redundant, since I am not doing professional shoots or work?

I am not a real techie, so a lot of technical stuff will escape me, but any advice regarding the IPad and MacBook Pro combo, or the IPadPro with keyboard would be greatly appreciated!
Let me start by saying that I am an amateur photog... (show quote)


Good people to deal with.

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Sep 13, 2020 12:45:54   #
lyndacast
 
Thanks!

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Sep 13, 2020 12:55:34   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
lyndacast wrote:
Let me start by saying that I am an amateur photographer and do not sell my photos. I take photography classes and have printed some images for various class shows in 16x20 format. I shoot all my images in RAW and JPEG format and post one or two of them as JPEGS almost daily on FB or on various groups I subscribe to there.

I do a great deal of my editing for quick uploads on my IPad using LR (cloud version) and Photoshop Express. I load my SD card into my MACBOOK to work on RAW files in LR.

I need more storage and find myself ready to upgrade both my IPad and/or MACBOOK, which currently both have a 128g memory capacity. I would like to upgrade to 16g ram and 512g on MacBook Pro, and 512g on IPad.

If I purchased the IPad Pro (12.9”) with 1TB, and a keyboard, wouldn’t I be getting the best of both worlds? I am not sure I would like that set up, since I have always had both IPad and MacBook...but are having both redundant, since I am not doing professional shoots or work?

I am not a real techie, so a lot of technical stuff will escape me, but any advice regarding the IPad and MacBook Pro combo, or the IPadPro with keyboard would be greatly appreciated!
Let me start by saying that I am an amateur photog... (show quote)


I purchased an iPad Pro a while ago with high hopes of using it for editing. While the hardware is impressive. IOS is a POS. The hardware is seriously hobbled by the IOS. I am a long term power Mac user. Maybe the is the problem. I expect to be able to do things efficiently. Using MacOS I can do things in seconds that are cumbersome and take a lot of touches, swipes in iOS, IF they are even possible.

My recommendation is definitely go to an Apple store and take some of your photos ,ask the to help you, show you how to import and edit on the iPAD. See what you think before you buy it.

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Sep 13, 2020 12:57:40   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
lyndacast wrote:
Let me start by saying that I am an amateur photographer and do not sell my photos. I take photography classes and have printed some images for various class shows in 16x20 format. I shoot all my images in RAW and JPEG format and post one or two of them as JPEGS almost daily on FB or on various groups I subscribe to there.

I do a great deal of my editing for quick uploads on my IPad using LR (cloud version) and Photoshop Express. I load my SD card into my MACBOOK to work on RAW files in LR.

I need more storage and find myself ready to upgrade both my IPad and/or MACBOOK, which currently both have a 128g memory capacity. I would like to upgrade to 16g ram and 512g on MacBook Pro, and 512g on IPad.

If I purchased the IPad Pro (12.9”) with 1TB, and a keyboard, wouldn’t I be getting the best of both worlds? I am not sure I would like that set up, since I have always had both IPad and MacBook...but are having both redundant, since I am not doing professional shoots or work?

I am not a real techie, so a lot of technical stuff will escape me, but any advice regarding the IPad and MacBook Pro combo, or the IPadPro with keyboard would be greatly appreciated!
Let me start by saying that I am an amateur photog... (show quote)


Before you buy anything, wait for the Tuesday, September 15, Apple product announcements. There may be some surprising new iPads in the pipeline, along with price discounts on older ones. There's even a chance we may see a new Apple Silicon MacBook Pro.

Logitech makes a great $150 keyboard with trackpad for the iPads. It supports all iPad finger gestures on the trackpad!

You might want to check out external drive options for your MacBook Pro. On the other hand, you may want to wait for Apple's new Apple Silicon MBPs to arrive. It will have better graphics performance than any of the Intel Macs at the same price. The iPads already have that level of graphics performance.

One thing to consider about using only an iPad is monitor calibration. I have not seen calibration/profiling kits that support iOS devices.

If you plan to use ICC Color Management correctly, you need a monitor that is capable of both wide-gamut color output AND proper calibration and custom profiling with a hardware/software kit solution. A MacBook Pro will be able to connect to one or two external monitors for that function.

While you can and should calibrate and custom profile an MBP's built-in screen, having a dedicated photography/graphics grade outboard monitor will greatly improve your chances of seeing on a print what you saw on the monitor. (Don't use a gaming monitor. Keep monitor brightness between 80 and 120 cd/m^2, as measured by your calibration tool. Remember that if your prints are too DARK, your monitor is too BRIGHT.)

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Sep 13, 2020 14:50:58   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
burkphoto wrote:
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One thing to consider about using only an iPad is monitor calibration. I have not seen calibration/profiling kits that support iOS devices.....


One of MANY things missing from iOS.

Remember when Apple was naming Operating systems after big cats? An appropriate name for iOS would have been "Tabby". And how many years later? We are still at "Tabby".

The problem with trying to use the iPad for prime time is iOS. IOS is great for surfing the net and email. Well, no it's not really great for email because it presents a flat view of the email folders. If you have created any hierarchy in your Mac email, you will suffer. You CANNOT collapse the flat view.

IMHO Apple screwed up putting iOS on the iPAD. They should have put macOS on the iPad and left iOS for the phone.

An IPad running iOS is not a replacement for a Mac running macOS. Not even close.

I am a long term mac user. I love apple hardware products and macOS. Can't say I love iOS. Sorry about the rant.

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Sep 13, 2020 16:06:18   #
CamB Loc: Juneau, Alaska
 
PixelStan77 wrote:
Consider a
The 2012 Non-Retina MacBook Pro Is Still the Best Laptop Apple Sells
It’s heavy, thick, and totally upgradable and customizable.


No. This does not work with the newest operating system or even a few before this, and is not it 64bit compliant.
If this is the direction the OP goes he should be looking for something maybe 2017 vintage.
...Cam

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Sep 13, 2020 17:45:45   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
JD750 wrote:
One of MANY things missing from iOS.

Remember when Apple was naming Operating systems after big cats? An appropriate name for iOS would have been "Tabby". And how many years later? We are still at "Tabby".

The problem with trying to use the iPad for prime time is iOS. IOS is great for surfing the net and email. Well, no it's not really great for email because it presents a flat view of the email folders. If you have created any hierarchy in your Mac email, you will suffer. You CANNOT collapse the flat view.

IMHO Apple screwed up putting iOS on the iPAD. They should have put macOS on the iPad and left iOS for the phone.

An IPad running iOS is not a replacement for a Mac running macOS. Not even close.

I am a long term mac user. I love apple hardware products and macOS. Can't say I love iOS. Sorry about the rant.
One of MANY things missing from iOS. br br Reme... (show quote)


Among the programs that run pretty well on the iPad:

MS Office 365 — OneNote and Outlook apps are free to use on the iPad Pro. You can Install Word, Excel, PowerPoint, OneNote, Outlook and OneDrive on an iPad Pro, iPad Air, iPad mini or iPhone.

Adobe Lightroom CC (the cloud connected version) runs on iPads. There are lots of other photography apps, too, including a decent version of Serif's Affinity Photo.

Apple supplies excellent versions of GarageBand, iMovie, Pages, Keynote, Numbers...

No, it's not a Mac. But because of the "walled garden," casual users can be relatively secure, compared to using a generic PC. My daughter can't be trusted with PCs. She refuses to use anti-virus, anti-adware, anti-malware protection. She has infected and bricked several PCs! But an iPad is almost bulletproof by comparison.

I'm also an avid Mac user. My preference would be for Apple to hurry up and get the hell away from Intel so they can control the entire stack of software and hardware from top to bottom. I think we will have a much better environment after the transition. We should hear more on Tuesday.

There is a distinct place for Macs, iPads, iPhones, iPods, Apple TV, and Apple Watch. I use a Mac and iPhone. I had an iPad in 2012, but at the time I also had a MacBook Pro and that was all I needed. I have no need for the other devices, save for my iPhone.

But right now, I'm working for the Census and they provide us field supervisors with iPads and iPhone 8s. Of course, they're locked down so tight you can't do ANYTHING on 'em other than what they want you to! They have to, since we have to keep citizens' personally identifiable information private for 76 years!

The custom software they wrote/had written for the Census is pathetic. It isn't any better on the enumerators' iPhone 8s, either. The database structure is annoying because it is completely non-standard. It would have been okay, had the Census Bureau required iOS experience to get hired! But flip phone users and Android users are dumbfounded by iOS. My slowest enumerators are flip phone users and Android users who worked the Census in 2010 using paper forms. My fastest ones are long time iPhone users who know nothing else.

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Sep 14, 2020 05:39:01   #
picsman Loc: Scotland
 
I keep all my images on an external hard disc attached to my iMac, why not do the same for your macbook? A SSD would be fast and you can back up in the cloud or on a separate external hard disc. A lot cheaper than a new macbook.

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Sep 14, 2020 06:23:01   #
DaveC Loc: Illinois
 
Consider waiting for iOS 14. Supposedly this will make your iPad, especially the iPad Pro much closer to what you wish. You only have a month or until it’s released. I have ordered an IPadPro and am hoping that can eventually I can run Photoshop successfully on it.

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Sep 14, 2020 08:14:51   #
warrenvon Loc: Ellicott City, MD
 
CamB wrote:
No. This does not work with the newest operating system or even a few before this, and is not it 64bit compliant.
If this is the direction the OP goes he should be looking for something maybe 2017 vintage.
...Cam


Sorry . . . but you are wrong a 2012 MBR is a fully 64bit complaint computer. What you are referring to applies to the hosted software on the machine.
Which now gets to your second thoughts on it ability to run the latest MAC operating system. The 2012 can run the latest Mac OS but the latest Mac OS will NOT support (Run) any legacy 32 bit software!

You might have made a better case for the fact that Apple will drop its support for the 2012 MBR in at least two years maybe even as few as one.

I think that the OP was very clear that they were NOT tech savvy nor interested in being so. So we should limit our comments to those that make sense in this case.

1. I agree that the addition of external storage device(s) makes far more sense than replacing the device as long as the internal RAM memory is supporting the OP's post processing needs. If their MBP can't have its memory increased, then they may well need to replace it.

2. I'd certainly wait to see what Apple is going to produce for its new iPads before I'd jump. I personally have several iPads including an early 12" iPad Pro and I simply have no use for them in any post processing efforts. The OP has set his limits to non - tecky and transporting images from a MBP to an iPad or reverse is not something for a non-tecky to enter upon. So I'm not sure how to respond to this need. I will add that there is no way to use external storage with an iPad other than via the Icloud . . at least not one that would appeal to a non-tecky user.

Good luck

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