Tipping SCAM (Page 6): I don"t get having a tip jar on counters. You go in, order your food, then pay for it and leave with it. What's the tip jar for? Doing your job? It's absurd to...

Ollieboy

I don"t get having a tip jar on counters. You go in, order your food, then pay for it and leave with it. What's the tip jar for? Doing your job? It's absurd to think you deserve a tip for putting a coffee and bagel in a bag.

Meadwilliam

So, don’t tip.

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

Gasman57 wrote:

I don"t get having a tip jar on counters. You go in, order your food, then pay for it and leave with it. What's the tip jar for? Doing your job? It's absurd to think you deserve a tip for putting a coffee and bagel in a bag.

I usually don't do counter tip jars for takeout either.
But the restaurants we frequent have one and (since the Covid thing) we have been tipping for our takeout there since there has been no dine-in for months. Trying to help the Ma & Pa shops a little bit as others are also doing.

drucker Loc: Oregon

Not much different than eBay now including the shipping cost when calculating the their percentage of the "sale."

JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco

Gasman57 wrote:

I don"t get having a tip jar on counters. You go in, order your food, then pay for it and leave with it. What's the tip jar for? Doing your job? It's absurd to think you deserve a tip for putting a coffee and bagel in a bag.

I can see HAVING a tip jar - because some people do put money in them. Nobody is required to put in a tip.

Rongnongno Loc: FL

For the folks who live in the US you are shameful by the way you understand and treat waiters according to your perception of what is really going on. Not only are you misinformed but you do not try to get the full picture. The tip jar is usually for small change that is also sometimes used to make up the difference when a client does not have an exact change.

For the folks not living in the US or in a country outside the US influence, tipping is usually weird and hard to understand.

When I first started to live in the US I just did not understand this 'crappy tip situation' as I came from a country where the tip is always included - even if not mentioned -. My wife who was a waitress when in college patiently explained to me why it was imperative to leave a tip and why I should not consider only the waiter as if some are real ***** 'punishing him' really punishes the entire staff. She said when you have a bad waiter, complain to the manager but do not use the tip as a 'weapon'.

Let's just say it was not an easy transition (Tips and TVA or VAT). 'Why the hell are they adding taxes' after a advertising a price (all over not only restaurants)??? I was just used to pay VAT included and the prices included the tax so no surprise.

Note that hotels employees sometimes also live on tips (worldwide), something not well advertised, beside leaving a $ or two every morning insures that the room is cleaned better*. In posh hotels one almost tips all the time, doorman, valets, porters, concierge, cleaning staff... (We have a term in France for that: 'Graisser la patte'.)

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* You see the difference when you return to your room by finding more hotel freebies from (free) snacks and drinks to soaps, combs...

sippyjug104 Loc: Missouri

Here's what I find strange. I buy a soda and a hotdog on Monday for lunch. The bill before tax is $5.00 and I tip 20% on the pre-tax value.

I go there to the same restaurant on Friday night for dinner and I order the stake special for $20.00 and a soda. The bill before tax is $22.50.

Same waitress, same good service, same amount of time caring for me at my table...no difference whatsoever other than the price of the meal that I chose at the time. It's as though I am being punished for buying the better meal and there is no way that I am going to tip on the State charging me tax for my purchase.

Flyerace Loc: Mt Pleasant, WI

I have paid for dinners with a credit card and leave the tip in cash. There are some restaurants, not many, that charge the server for the cost of the credit card fees if all is paid by credit card. (Yes, I checked with the owners and they confirmed the policy) Since the servers don't get tipped at all by some people, and get stiffed by the owners, I just make it easier for all involved and pay the tip in cash. I find the servers appreciate it. I am a generous tipper because I like when people remember what I like and make sure I get taken care of. In my previous life, my best customers appreciated what I remembered about them. We didn't get, nor accept, tips. We just liked to make our customers feel appreciated.

jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY

Architect1776 wrote:

Then it is not a tip just the cost of the meal.
Like Walmart, Product price includes service.
Thus NO incentive to provide superior service. All get paid the same whether good or crappy service, thus, no difference so NO incentive to excel.

We went on a cruise years ago on a line that had just started a no tipping policy. Boy, was that a bad idea!

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

Rongnongno wrote:

... The tip jar is usually for small change that is also sometimes used to make up the difference when a client does not have an exact change.
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Little biddy trays I can see,
what do they do when the large "give a penny-take a penny" jar gets to four pounds of coins?
It's a tip jar.

Morry Loc: Palm Springs, CA

jerryc41 wrote:

Yeah, you have to feel bad for business owners who have trouble paying their help.

Most all other business's factor hired help costs into the price of the goods that they sell. Why should the restaurant business be any different?

Morry Loc: Palm Springs, CA

Architect1776 wrote:

Then it is not a tip just the cost of the meal.
Like Walmart, Product price includes service.
Thus NO incentive to provide superior service. All get paid the same whether good or crappy service, thus, no difference so NO incentive to excel.

One could say the same thing about "any employee" other than waiters and waitresses. The other thing that needs to be said is . . . why does "no tipping" in almost all of Europe seem to work so well? When one is mistreated in noticeable ways . . . they should make a complaint to management.

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

Morry wrote:

Most all other business's factor hired help costs into the price of the goods that they sell. Why should the restaurant business be any different?

Maybe some do? Maybe not all go by "puny server wages"?
I have no idea who pays what to whom.
I still tip, because that's what we do in America.

Morry Loc: Palm Springs, CA

tomad wrote:

My wife is a server. She makes $2.50 per hour plus tips and you would begrudge her a few pennies on a bill like that. On top of that the tips are taken by the restaurant and divided up between all the staff so that the kitchen staff and bus boys get a share of her tips. Shame on you. These people work their a$$ off for very little pay from greedy restaurant owners.

A simple answer but hard to apply is to get restaurant employers to pay a living wage. Yes . . . it is being done in many major parts of the world.

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

Morry wrote:

A simple answer but hard to apply is to get restaurant employers to pay a living wage. Yes . . . it is being done in many major parts of the world.

Interesting that everyone is going on the premise that there are no restaurants in the US that may pay their servers decently.