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Sep 7, 2020 11:14:55   #
Toment Loc: FL, IL
 
How about naming them “moonrise at ___? (Place)

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Sep 7, 2020 11:16:19   #
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bleirer wrote:
Rising or setting, waxing, full, or waning, crescent, gibbous, , half, full, hunter moon, harvest moon, place names.

Rising hunter moon, waxing crescent moon, full moon over Canyon de Chelly.....


Waaaaay too busy, waaaaay too specific, and insulting to the potential buyer for naming the phases, which viewers can plainly see for themselves. The seasonal moon names (“Harvest, Hunter, etc) are redundant to the date.

The seasonal names may seem romantic but if you wanna present yourself to the marketplace as a naive camera clubbing rank amateur be sure to concoct cliched or romantic titles for your pieces :-(

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Sep 7, 2020 11:58:27   #
f8lee Loc: New Mexico
 
CaptainPhoto wrote:
A photo is a piece of art, just like a painting, just a different form. With that, think like an artist. Look at the emotion of the image and name it accordingly. No artist would name a painting with the date in the title. When you enter photos in a contest you give a title to the image. I doubt you would include the date as part of the title. Again, look for the emotion in the image.


Apparently you misapprehend the concept...I have multiple photos of the same basic image (unlike a painting, which is a one off, no?)

So "Moonrise over the organ mountains", while descriptive, doesn't cut it when there are a bunch - each different in its own way and appreciated as a standalone piece of art. To get an idea, have a gander at my website (it's in my signature below) - the first couple of photos are exactly that - moonrises over the Organs. Those two are from different dates, but I have multiple other views from each of those dates (and others), all of which can be named the same basic thing, no? What emotion do you feel looking at the first versus the second? Or the second one compared to another shot from the same evening where the river reflection is not as apparent, and the clouds covering the moon itself have moved? Does the question make sense now?

None of these are identical to the other, so in one sense, yes they are all one-off - but they are still the same basic thing.

Thus, my initial question. And I thank those without big egos who answered intelligently for their replies.

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Sep 7, 2020 13:48:18   #
wthomson Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
bleirer wrote:
Or add a place name. Moonrise over Hernandez, New Mexico...

https://www.moma.org/collection/works/53904


Hasn't that been taken already ?

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Sep 7, 2020 13:56:24   #
cambriaman Loc: Central CA Coast
 
Naming for filing and naming for exhibition are two separate issues. I name my images "yymmddsubject"(brief) and my images for exhibition e.g.,"Big Sur Sunset". The yymmdd date format is so that my computer sorts them in the most expedious way for search (for me).

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Sep 7, 2020 15:44:26   #
kpsk_sony
 
If its good enough for Ansel Adams its good enough for the rest of us! Good luck with your project.!

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Sep 7, 2020 17:09:06   #
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jerryc41 wrote:
I'd let the customer name the picture. Giving it the wrong name could turn off a potential customer. He's buying it for its appearance, not a clever title.


I agree about “clever” titles. They represent verrrrrry tacky taste. OTOH I cannot imagine the buyer naming it. A buyer is buying a share in the artist by buying his work. The title given by the artist is part of the work ... which, full circle, is why clever or cute titles are toadally abominable.

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Sep 7, 2020 17:24:26   #
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Simple thought about dates in titles.

Paintings don’t have dates. Would the date be the absolute very last brush stroke ? IOW paintings don’t have dates becuz they can’t have dates.

Photos are documents by their very nature no matter how much emotion or interpretation may be involved.

Documents have dates. A photo has time and place. A title with time and place is a very photographic title, and thus it’s very honest title.

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Sep 7, 2020 20:50:26   #
cahale Loc: San Angelo, TX
 
f8lee wrote:
I wonder if others have had to deal with this issue, and if so how they handled it.

I am going to try selling some of my photos (printed on aluminum, etc.) - have a chance to hang them in a restaurant type of situation. My question relates to how they should be named - of course here I am talking about a "customer facing" name, not "2020-06-10-Moonrise-21" or whatever (which is how I rename my images when I bring them into Lightroom).

So to use that as an example: I have numerous moonrise shots, taken on different dates, etc. - and within LR they are all uniquely named with something like the example I just gave. But when hanging four of them, say, on a gallery wall, would it make sense to just name them "Moonrise- 01", "Moonrise 02", etc.? Or is there a better way to apply names that make sense but don't seem like an arbitrary sequence?

I similarly have a bunch of images from the Grand Canyon, lightning, etc. - the same concept applies.

So TIA for any guidance others can give me - maybe there's an easy solution that I am just not seeing. Or maybe "Moonrise-01", Moonrise-02" et al is the way to go.
I wonder if others have had to deal with this issu... (show quote)


For some reason, people seem to like things such as "Moon Over Manticora," and "When the Moon Hits." I have no idea why. To me, the photograph should be its own title. Maybe add a tag with location and time of year or something.

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Sep 7, 2020 21:05:53   #
f8lee Loc: New Mexico
 
cahale wrote:
For some reason, people seem to like things such as "Moon Over Manticora," and "When the Moon Hits." I have no idea why. To me, the photograph should be its own title. Maybe add a tag with location and time of year or something.


Well, for one thing, I can imagine (or at least dream) that someone will see one of the moonrise shots on the wall, but will call to ask if they can get it in a different size or something...so having a unique name would be most useful for this purpose, no?

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Sep 7, 2020 21:20:58   #
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cahale wrote:
For some reason, people seem to like things such as "Moon Over Manticora," and "When the Moon Hits." I have no idea why. To me, the photograph should be its own title. Maybe add a tag with location and time of year or something.

100% Agree.

When the moon hits your eye
like a big pizza pie .... ‘at’s amore.


Reeeeally ?!?

Better :
Pizza Shop 2
Fredonia NY
Feb 2017

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Sep 7, 2020 22:58:19   #
f8lee Loc: New Mexico
 
Well, this thread has taken a turn for the stupid...so I am not following any longer.

But again, thanks to Bob and the others who actually had intelligent and helpful suggestions.

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Sep 8, 2020 10:47:29   #
one_eyed_pete Loc: Colonie NY
 
f8lee wrote:
I wonder if others have had to deal with this issue, and if so how they handled it.

I am going to try selling some of my photos (printed on aluminum, etc.) - have a chance to hang them in a restaurant type of situation. My question relates to how they should be named - of course here I am talking about a "customer facing" name, not "2020-06-10-Moonrise-21" or whatever (which is how I rename my images when I bring them into Lightroom).

So to use that as an example: I have numerous moonrise shots, taken on different dates, etc. - and within LR they are all uniquely named with something like the example I just gave. But when hanging four of them, say, on a gallery wall, would it make sense to just name them "Moonrise- 01", "Moonrise 02", etc.? Or is there a better way to apply names that make sense but don't seem like an arbitrary sequence?

I similarly have a bunch of images from the Grand Canyon, lightning, etc. - the same concept applies.

So TIA for any guidance others can give me - maybe there's an easy solution that I am just not seeing. Or maybe "Moonrise-01", Moonrise-02" et al is the way to go.
I wonder if others have had to deal with this issu... (show quote)


Personally I've never liked photo naming with "01, No. 1 etc" in the titles, not creative or definitive. Think about what the buyer may want to call it hanging in his living room. "02" begs the question what happened to 01. Just use a descriptive title with perhaps the date. Just my opinion.

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Sep 8, 2020 11:26:54   #
BebuLamar
 
Name them MoonRise #1002 trials etc...
That way the clients will appreciate how hard you work to get the pictures.

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Sep 8, 2020 22:36:55   #
RAR_man Loc: stow, MA
 
i use a similar naming convention but mine looks like;

YearMonthDay_State (or country)_City/location_original filename from camera.file extension

if people are involved, i will note names before State.

Been using this system for years. It really works for me. the inconvenience of renaming is offset by the ease of file retrieval...and never a duplicate name.

If i modify the file, i copy and rename to include a _A or B, etc. after the file extension. files are placed in folders. I have a folder for each Mammal, Bird, Reptile, etc. or place or person, etc.

works like a charm for me

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