SteveR wrote:
Other than AF and a couple of fps faster, what more?
You yourself were singing the praises of the D500 and many have posted other differences, like the pro build and the bigger, brighter viewfinder.
Bill_de wrote:
You interviewed all these people or are you assuming they haven't learned to use the camera? Maybe they just expect more from the camera than you.
Not at all. But in similar situations I find the problems not to exist. I also have friends and acquaintances whose work in difficult situations does not display any of the shortcomings many complain of.
The people who complain mostly seem to have pigeonholed the camera, presumed the performance limits are going to be there, and done nothing to learn to avoid them. This discussion is full of posts that mention the focus system and the buffer and then nothing else. If that is a person's view of the D500, I suspect that there is a whole long list of things that he doesn't know about his camera.
I have finally figured out that many folks believe that a camera is just a box with a hole on one side. Its job is solely to feed their post processing software. I finish my photographs, but am not a slave to it, and I like that job to be as straightforward as possible. To that end, my preference is to let the camera do as much of the hard work as possible.
I also work with kids. And if folks here really want to preserve photography as they claim, they need to change their focus when working with them, because kids today inherently trust machines more than people (including themselves). Only a very few of them care anything about spending hours post processing. They will do it little, and they will do fun stuff, but there photographs better be pretty close to "right" when they come out of the camera.
SuperflyTNT wrote:
You yourself were singing the praises of the D500 and many have posted other differences, like the pro build and the bigger, brighter viewfinder.
You seemed to indicate that there were a lot of differences between the two. When the OP mentioned that he shot sports I said that he should go for the D500 because of the more advanced AF. In fact, if I recall, it has the same AF as the D5. It shoots a little faster (fps) than the D7500 as well. As far as low light capabilities, they are the same. They also have the same processor. Essentially, the D7500 is the D500 without the advanced AF. However, it also has a fine AF of its own. One advantage of the 7500 is for those photographers who can't handle the big, heavy camera. It really is a nice size camera. It's why I bought the 7500 for my daughter. She gets some great shots of my grandsons playing sports. Combined with the Tamron 100-400mm lens, it's a good weight for her. The lens, too, is much lighter than, say, the Nikon 80-400mm, but produces excellent results. For anybody shooting sports, though, that can handled the size and weight, I would recommend the 500. Compared to my D7000, though, the 7500 is awesome!!
I've been shooting with the D500 for about 2 years. The quality of its color capture is outstanding. Here is a view of lower Manhattan lit by a setting sun which I shot just two days ago, on September 3, 2020. The ISO was 1600.
SteveR wrote:
You seemed to indicate that there were a lot of differences between the two. When the OP mentioned that he shot sports I said that he should go for the D500 because of the more advanced AF. In fact, if I recall, it has the same AF as the D5. It shoots a little faster (fps) than the D7500 as well. As far as low light capabilities, they are the same. They also have the same processor. Essentially, the D7500 is the D500 without the advanced AF. However, it also has a fine AF of its own. One advantage of the 7500 is for those photographers who can't handle the big, heavy camera. It really is a nice size camera. It's why I bought the 7500 for my daughter. She gets some great shots of my grandsons playing sports. Combined with the Tamron 100-400mm lens, it's a good weight for her. The lens, too, is much lighter than, say, the Nikon 80-400mm, but produces excellent results. For anybody shooting sports, though, that can handled the size and weight, I would recommend the 500. Compared to my D7000, though, the 7500 is awesome!!
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I have been thinking about this discussion quite a bit. It's really pretty simple. If a person has to ask a question about the differences, it is very likely not time for an upgrade. If a person doesn't understand the differences, it's probably not time to give counsel about whether an upgrade would be a good idea.
I've used both of these cameras. I own one of them now and am pretty deeply familiar with just about everything about it. These are not equivalent cameras. They are nowhere near the same to use, unless considered as a box with a hole on one side to mount a lens.
Bottom line...if one doesn't see or understand the difference, then the D7500 is probably the choice that makes the most sense. That's probably the simplest and least ambiguous way to choose.
Upgraded from a D5300 to a D500 about a year ago and what a difference, like going from a Chevy to a Mercedes
Traveller_Jeff wrote:
I've been shooting with the D500 for about 2 years. The quality of its color capture is outstanding. Here is a view of lower Manhattan lit by a setting sun which I shot just two days ago, on September 3, 2020. The ISO was 1600.
Very nice. If you can open up the shadows a little that could be spectacular.
Steve Perry has a video where he compares the D500 D7500 and D7200. You should watch that as it gives all the pros and cons.
Bill_de wrote:
I may have missed it, but I didn't see anyone mention that Nikon does not make a vertical grip for the D7500. From what I have read, the after market variety only provide a shutter release.
The D500 vertical grip from Nikon give you the shutter release, plus the front and rear control dials and a joystick. To get the added speed from the D500 that was mentioned above, you need the grip and an EN EL 18 battery. The D500 could be a big plus for sports and wildlife.
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You don't need yhe grip to get 10fps with the D500.
Bill_de wrote:
I may have missed it, but I didn't see anyone mention that Nikon does not make a vertical grip for the D7500. From what I have read, the after market variety only provide a shutter release.
The D500 vertical grip from Nikon give you the shutter release, plus the front and rear control dials and a joystick. To get the added speed from the D500 that was mentioned above, you need the grip and an EN EL 18 battery. The D500 could be a big plus for sports and wildlife.
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I have two D500's for using different lenses in the field without having to change anything while shooting sports and wildlife. I have purchased the battery grip for them from Amazon for about $35.00 and they have the front and rear dials as well as the joystick for a fraction of the cost of a Nikon battery grip.
It was a matter of cost to me. I wanted a D500 but could not afford it. I'm happy with the D7500 along with the Nikon 200-500 for wildlife. I've included a few shots taken in RMNP in August.
Based on these comments, I am happy I chose the D500. I have 2 FX Zoom lenses and very happy.
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