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Aug 21, 2020 12:18:19   #
photoman022 Loc: Manchester CT USA
 
A number of people have mentioned wearing masks. Remember: the mask is intended to protect OTHER people from YOU, not you from other people. I think that masks some time give us a sense of security (protection) that is not there.

I don't want to start a debate on whether or not to wear masks, but as a reminder that masks are not intended to protect US, but to protect others. Yes, I wear a mask when indoors in a public venue.

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Aug 21, 2020 12:19:50   #
Leitz Loc: Solms
 
katu41 wrote:
First the basics. I'm 79 and my wife is 75. Like everyone else, we have been in lockdown for 6 months. I am thinking about a trip to see some of the Utah parks, Monument Valley and possibly the Grand Canyon north rim. This will be a driving trip starting from Los Angeles and we would probably spend 7 or 8 days on the road. We are both in reasonable health with no underlying health issues. We are thinking of late September or early October. While I will be into my photography, my wife will basically be along for the ride. There will be no long hikes or climbing. The $64 question is can we stay safe.
My plan would be to take our own bedding for the trip. I would not rely on local motels to have the best disinfectant protocols. I am guessing we can keep social distancing fairly easily with the possible exception of hiring a guide in Monument Valley. Have you done this trip in recent months or do you know of others who made this trip and with what results? I'm on the fence but obviously don't want to do something stupid. I would like to keep the motel stops to a minimum and was looking for suggestions for a base location near Zion or Brice to do day trips of less than 150 miles. I'm not going to make it all the way to Moab. Suggestions?
First the basics. I'm 79 and my wife is 75. Like ... (show quote)

I'd do it if I wanted to. If I didn't want to, I wouldn't. But then, I don't copy what others do.

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Aug 21, 2020 12:23:48   #
wingclui44 Loc: CT USA
 
photoman022 wrote:
A number of people have mentioned wearing masks. Remember: the mask is intended to protect OTHER people from YOU, not you from other people. I think that masks some time give us a sense of security (protection) that is not there.

I don't want to start a debate on whether or not to wear masks, but as a reminder that masks are not intended to protect US, but to protect others. Yes, I wear a mask when indoors in a public venue.


Yes, it does protecting you, if it can prevent the germ going out from you it can do the other way to prevent the germ going in. The filter works both way! This is only a common sense! It's only my thought!

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Aug 21, 2020 12:24:29   #
Quixdraw Loc: x
 
By all means, put living on Pause during this orchestrated panic-demic here in Montana for example, just over half a percent of the population have contracted the disease, of that half percent 1.43 percent, 89 people have died. No report on comorbidity of those who perished. Not really very scary, and I'm around 3 months from 76.

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Aug 21, 2020 12:43:17   #
Cany143 Loc: SE Utah
 
As much as it pains me to say this, but I'd avoid Monument Valley. The Navajo Nation --i.e., the Four Corners region generally, but mainly NE AZ, NW NM, and SE UT-- has been (is still being) tragically hit with very high rates of Covid-19, and it doesn't appear to abating any time soon.

Ordinarily, I'm pretty self-sufficient and do a lot of camping well away from others. And I know the areas mentioned above pretty well, so its not as if I'm travelling blind, trying to figure things out on the fly, or ever need to stop to ask for directions/recommendations/assistance. Its easy enough to keep clear of others, but however good anyone might be at logistics, there is always some need to be in civilization; to get gas, or food, or water, or even a shower if you've been out for a few days. And if or when any of those situations arise, be aware that there will be others around from virtually everywhere, people like yourself who've come from where ever it is they came from, and have (probably) been in close contact with who knows how many others along their way.

Here in Moab, I see groups of people --tourists, mainly-- walking up and down Main St., going into shops or restaurants, not wearing masks and not self distancing. Just guessing (from having seen it first hand), I expect the same is the case in Kayenta, Kanab, Flagstaff, and every other little --essentially 'tourist'-- town in between.

If the above sounds as though I'm paranoid or "scared" or whatever, so be it. Do as you choose to do, but I'd suggest you hold off until next year, or whenever the virus is no longer an issue.

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Aug 21, 2020 22:04:10   #
katu41
 
PixelStan77 wrote:
The answer to your question" What would you do"

I would stay safe and stay home. Your bedding would get contaminated if the hotel/motel did not spray and clean properly


The bedding contamination is something I hadn't thought about.

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Aug 21, 2020 22:05:34   #
katu41
 
Just Fred wrote:
I would do it in a heartbeat.


I have your vote!

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Aug 21, 2020 22:07:36   #
katu41
 
sabfish wrote:
One big question, and to my mind risk, is eating in restaurants. You can't eat with a mask on and may well be indoors.


I would not eat indoors either. Don't see food as an unacceptable risk.

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Aug 21, 2020 22:08:12   #
katu41
 
dougbev3 wrote:
I have had several friends who have taken trips and have had no problems with hotels or places to eat. One friend started in Kansas and went to D.C. and then back to Montana ( her new home ). They used wipes and cleaning sprays, gloves & masks.


This is our everyday routine.

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Aug 21, 2020 22:08:55   #
katu41
 
whatdat wrote:
Ck status of parks as they are in a state of flux due to Covid-19. Here in Texas state parks are only open by appointment & Big Bend NP was closed in July. Haven’t heard anything since. (don’t know about other National Parks, forests, wildlife areas in Texas).
Good luck & be careful.


If we decide to go this will be part of our research.

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Aug 21, 2020 22:10:45   #
katu41
 
skylinefirepest wrote:
Bryce and Zion are reasonably close to Moab...and Canyonlands, Dead Horse Canyon, and Arches are at Moab. We stayed for a week at the Days Inn at Moab and it was very clean with friendly people. Not knowing where you are really wanting to go I would definitely say to go to Arches at Moab...one of the most spectacular parks we've ever been to. The Grand Canyon and the Badlands were a definite lower on the totem pole after going to Arches, Bryce, and Zion. A huge difference for us now is that we can't walk so we have to be where we can drive with very little walking. We drove up to the top of the plateau and went to Gemeni Bridge and my wife hated the ten percent grade and whoop de doos with the longish hood...I see why all the serious off roaders use Jeeps. I've bought a newer Taco with the crawl feature so I can't wait to get back out to Moab and hit the trails and we are intending to try it this Sept.
Bryce and Zion are reasonably close to Moab...and ... (show quote)


Thanks for all the info. My wife has balance issues so walking is a definite concern.

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Aug 21, 2020 22:11:40   #
katu41
 
Mac wrote:
That sounds like a fun idea.
I would wear a mask anytime I was outside of the car or motel room. I would spray and/or wipe the room with Lysol when I first checked in and after anyone else was in the room. Social distance as much as possible. Order takeout instead of eating in a restaurant and either eat in the car or in the room, or outside where you can maintain social distancing. Wash hands often and have waterless hand cleaner with you when you’re out and about.
I hope you have a good time and don’t forget to post the pictures when you get back.
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Very good common sense advice. Thanks

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Aug 21, 2020 22:12:55   #
katu41
 
tomad wrote:
I'd probably wait until next year. If I did go, I would rent a small RV that I could clean myself and live in for the duration of the trip... IMO a safer way to sleep and eat avoiding hotels and restaurants. I am actually planning another trip out west for the fall of 2021 when it will hopefully be safer.


RV is just not our choice. We may wait it out ourselves.

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Aug 21, 2020 22:14:12   #
katu41
 
AzPicLady wrote:
I've done two road trips during this stupidity, and I had no difficulty on either one. I did stay in a motel once. Wash your hands a lot. Carry sanitizer. Most truck stops have all you need for food, breaks, etc. They show evidence of adherence to prescribed rules. Probably the most dangerous thing is the gas pump handle. Again, use sanitizer after pumping gas!

I was just at the North Rim. It is open, but the lodge is closed to all but those with existing reservations, and the campground is closed due to a water main break. The road to Point Imperial is closed. The camp store is open, and the deli store is open for orders, but you pick up and eat the food outside. Rim trails are all open. Jacob Lake is totally open. Do be careful about Monument Valley. The virus has been brutal on the reservation. You probably should check it before going there. Call the Goldings store. They will know. I talked to a lady who said Arches was packed, but you said you're not going to Moab. I suggest you contact Cany143 (one of the members here) as he has a pretty good pulse on the parks in Utah.
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Excellent info. Thanks for taking so much time for your insights.

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Aug 21, 2020 22:15:26   #
katu41
 
boberic wrote:
first- Outside masks are not necessary, unless in large crowds. Just maintain 6 foot distance. Inside use masks. inside, use wipes, and/or sprays UV light bars work as well. If money is of no concern, maybe rent a small RV, or a camper. That will solvve the sleeping problem


All good advice. Thanks. Don't see us doing the RV.

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