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Aug 21, 2020 06:50:47   #
twice_shooter
 
Why does age come into most any question or answer on this site? I don't hear "I'm 72, what car should I buy" or "what is the best watch for someone in their eighties". How does it matter? Honestly confused.

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Aug 21, 2020 07:00:32   #
Jimmy T Loc: Virginia
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
The longer you read UHH, the more expensive it gets.

If you can freely spend money on camera equipment, like what seems like the majority of the UHH community, then the Nikon Z50 with an adapter to your DSLR lenses will maintain your existing lenses.

But seriously: your D3300 is a fully professional-capable digital camera with the current industry-standard 24MP sensor. A Z50 is a $850 purchase, body only, that actually steps down in resolution to 21MP.

Is another $850 the cost of making you happy with your camera? Will it make you a better photographer? Only you can decide.
The longer you read UHH, the more expensive it get... (show quote)


No better advice to be had here on UHH. Take it from a Canon 5DIV and Canon RP owner, both with native "L" glass. Unless you are pixel peeping you won't be able to tell the difference.
This is especially true once your pic has been rinsed through Adobe LR or Topaz products.
However ($$$$), as you step up in technology, and features of touch screens, electronics, and automatic everything, you will find that . . . . . . .aaaahhhh. Now, where was I???
Smile,
JimmyT Sends

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Aug 21, 2020 07:09:47   #
camerapapi Loc: Miami, Fl.
 
In the first place, if the Nikon D3300 is working fine and it gives you results that are pleasing to your eyes I see no reasons in buying a new camera. It is your money, if you feel the D5600 has features that will improve your photography then do what you want to do.
Going mirrorless will imply as you said a new set of lenses and that means more money to pay for new gear plus the learning curve of using something new.

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Aug 21, 2020 07:34:51   #
ClarkJohnson Loc: Fort Myers, FL and Cohasset, MA
 
As a (senior) birder and owner of both Nikon FX and DX bodies and many lenses, I decided to buy a z50 to replace a small Lumix. I picked up both kit lenses and the FTZ adapter. What I didn’t expect was how much fun it is to use this thing, and how impressive the results are. Interestingly, in a very controlled test, the kit 50-250 lens blew away both the DX 18-300 and the FX 70-300 lenses on sharpness. I won’t give up my D500 for birding yet, but I can clearly see the day in my lifetime when flappy mirrors in cameras are history.

What I haven’t found yet is a one-lens solution that would make the Z50 a true replacement for a point & shoot, unless I use the FTZ with a DX convenience lens. Don’t want to spend the bucks for the new Z 24-200 at this point.

But IMHO, the Z50 is a major breakthrough, and an eye opener in terms of what a camera can do. And fun! I don’t regret at all making the jump.

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Aug 21, 2020 09:12:45   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
dick ranez wrote:
As near as I can tell, the only advantage of anyone's mirrorless camera is the ability to use a wide variety of other manufacturer's lenses or older manual lenses with the right adapters. They don't put and different or "better" pixels on the sensor. That doesn't appear to be useful to you. If you "have" to have a new body, consider the Nikon 7200 or the D500 which may give you some additional features, or at least make you "feel" better about your gear.


Red6 wrote:
As someone who has done almost exactly what you are contemplating, I would probably move to the D5600. As others have stated this is a very capable body. If you just feel that you have to spend money then look at better, more capable lens and other accessory equipment like a good tripod.

I owned a Nikon D7000 which I really like, but got the itch to move up and traded it for a Sony A6400. The A6400 is a very capable camera. The Sony gave me 24 MP but other than that, I cannot say that it was that much better than the D7000. The menus on the Sony are more complex than the Nikon and Canons that I have used, but in my opinion are easy mastered with practice and some study. I certainly cannot say that going mirrorless was a great improvement in any aspect of my photography.

While the manufacturers pushed the mirrorless concept as an improvement in photography, I think that was more marketing hype than real progress. I see it more as an improvement in manufacturing technology for the manufacturers. By eliminating the mirror and all the mechanical workings they simplified the assembly, thus lowering their costs of manufacturing. Maybe these cost savings were passed on to the customers since, like computers and phones, much higher capability cameras are available at reasonable price points. There are advantages in mirrorless cameras for video which may or may not interest many photographers. The mirrorless cameras also depend more on software to implement new features or fix issues that arise.

I do like my Sony A6400. However, if I were starting over, and not being a fan boy of any particular brand, I would probably have went full frame in Nikon or Canon and built my kit around that body. There are solid reasons to go full frame. I can think of few to go mirrorless.
As someone who has done almost exactly what you ar... (show quote)


Some uninformed opinions, one of which surprises me, because he actually owns a mirrorless camera. I shoot both DSLR and mirrorless and there are several nice features with mirrorless that I’ve come to appreciate, not the least being IBIS, (which seems to be a feature older shooters really like), and full time live few so that I can see exposure compensation in real time. That being said, I also will agree that your D3300 is as capable of great photographs as just about anything you might upgrade to. But I think there could be other good reasons to upgrade. While I feel there are nice features that make mirrorless tempting there are more costs involved. I might look at a used or refurbished D7500. It won’t directly improve your images, but it might improve your user experience. Your ergonomics will be better. You’ll have more direct controls for things you need to go into menus on the D3300.

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Aug 21, 2020 09:29:04   #
47greyfox Loc: on the edge of the Colorado front range
 
I’m always entertained by these exchanges of rationals of “why” or “why not.” And there’s the, “yeah, but maybe you should consider X instead.” Need and want have different meanings to most, especially here on UHH. Bottom line, if you’re looking for a reason to make a move or not, you’ll find it. If it’s a warning or alternative, that’ll come as well. For someone who has his share of “I did well” to “acute buyer’s regret,” I suggest going with whatever satisfies the “need or want” even if you change your mind later. Or, wait to see if the urge passes. The worse scenario is lingering “coulda, woulda, shoulda.” Just read the replies ....

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Aug 21, 2020 09:42:24   #
romanmel7 Loc: New Hartford, NY
 
I will jump in. I am also intrigued by the Nikon mirrorless cameras and am considering acquiring one. When I moved up from Nikon D300 to a D750, I was blown away by the difference in image quality, especially at higher ISO and low(er) light situations. Using one of “Trinity” f2.8 lenses, it is amazing how many excellent quality images I can get without using flash. One of my issues (actually my wife’s) with my present setup is the sound the mirror makes upon shutter release in quiet situations. My main question at this point is, “Is the image quality (noise level) that much better on these new cameras to justify the jump?”

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Aug 21, 2020 10:11:57   #
mymike Loc: Tucson, AZ
 
Silverrails, I have been a Nikon user for nearly 40 years (started with film). I have had Canon, Olympus film cameras but stayed with Nikon. My first DSLR was the D3300 and then I got the D5500, I gave the D3300 to my son. I really like the D5500 and I bought a bunch of DX lenses. 3 or 4 years ago, I decided to go full frame and got a used D750 and started to collect full frame lenses. When the Z mirrorless came out almost two years ago, I wanted a camera with in body image stabilization, an electronic view finder and lighter than my D750. I got the Z6. I am now 72 and use mostly the Z6 and sometimes the D750. I still have the D5500 and all the DX lenses which I will probably give to my other son some day. The Nikon menu system and controls are pretty standard, so there is not a lot to learn. Shooting mirrorless is different than a DSLR and there is a slight learning curve. The Z50 (cropped sensor) does not have in body image stabilization, but looks interesting to me. So, long story short, I am always in search of the "perfect camera" for me, but realize that I already have great camera's (for me) and that all the new camera's out there is a way the manufacturers survive. I think I would best spend the money on a trip somewhere to take some photos, rather than on a new camera.

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Aug 21, 2020 10:16:39   #
photoman43
 
I am 77 and have not made the switch to mirrorless yet. Why? No reason for me to do it as my current Nikon bodies (D500 and D850) and lenses and accessories are more than adequate for my photo needs (lenses from 20mm to 500mm.)

If I were to switch, I would want lenses that work without an adapter. (Why introduce something between the camera and the lens?) For me that means new glass through 500mm. Nikon does not have the glass yet.Even if it did, that would mean I would have to spend $thousands to replace glass.

If I needed a small light weight camera for travel, or some other special purpose, then maybe a new mirrorless Nikon model with a new Z lens. Or a less expensive Nikon Coolpix?

If I were just starting out, then my thought process would be completely different.

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Aug 21, 2020 10:38:09   #
IDguy Loc: Idaho
 
camerapapi wrote:
In the first place, if the Nikon D3300 is working fine and it gives you results that are pleasing to your eyes I see no reasons in buying a new camera. It is your money, if you feel the D5600 has features that will improve your photography then do what you want to do.
Going mirrorless will imply as you said a new set of lenses and that means more money to pay for new gear plus the learning curve of using something new.


No on new lenses. The Nikon FTZ adapter enables full use of all the OP’s lenses. If you leave it in place it becomes part of the camera. Hassle free.

It gets more fussy if you mix F and Z mount lenses.

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Aug 21, 2020 11:16:14   #
wthomson Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
dick ranez wrote:
As near as I can tell, the only advantage of anyone's mirrorless camera is the ability to use a wide variety of other manufacturer's lenses or older manual lenses with the right adapters. They don't put and different or "better" pixels on the sensor. That doesn't appear to be useful to you. If you "have" to have a new body, consider the Nikon 7200 or the D500 which may give you some additional features, or at least make you "feel" better about your gear.


Mirrorless also gives a weight advantage, if that is of interest.

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Aug 21, 2020 11:21:49   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
If you don’t like what you see in the mirror, don’t blame the mirror.

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Aug 21, 2020 11:26:45   #
Nicholas J DeSciose
 
The new Nikon cameras are exceptional They have adapters and camera bodies that will work very well with your current lenses. However the new lenses made for The new cameras are extraordinary

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Aug 21, 2020 12:43:56   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
photoman43 wrote:
I am 77 and have not made the switch to mirrorless yet. Why? No reason for me to do it as my current Nikon bodies (D500 and D850) and lenses and accessories are more than adequate for my photo needs (lenses from 20mm to 500mm.)

If I were to switch, I would want lenses that work without an adapter. (Why introduce something between the camera and the lens?) For me that means new glass through 500mm. Nikon does not have the glass yet.Even if it did, that would mean I would have to spend $thousands to replace glass.

If I needed a small light weight camera for travel, or some other special purpose, then maybe a new mirrorless Nikon model with a new Z lens. Or a less expensive Nikon Coolpix?

If I were just starting out, then my thought process would be completely different.
I am 77 and have not made the switch to mirrorless... (show quote)


I shoot a D500 and a Z7. Now I needed new glass anyway, because I only had a few lenses that were FX. So far the the only Z mount lens I’ve bought is the 24-70 f/4 and it’s a superb lens, but I’ve used some of my AF-S lenses and they work flawlessly with the adapter. All the adapter does is provide the contacts for communication between the camera and the lens and put the lens the proper distance between the lens and the sensor. It’s not like you’re adding glass or anything that affects the optics. Yes, I want to add to my Z glass collection, but I have no problems using AF-S glass on my Z7.

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Aug 21, 2020 12:48:34   #
rangel28
 
Silverrails wrote:
I Presently own a Nikon D3300 & 5 Nikon Lens. I have learned and enjoyed my knowledge gained from my 1st DSLR Camera. Now, I am contemplating a New Camera, I think I will stay with the Crop-Sensor line, maybe move up to a used D5600 Body, since I already have 5 Nikon DSLR Lens. I have heard so much about the new MIRRORLESS Cameras, although I realize it would mean purchasing a whole new system of Photography Camera & Lens, not even sure I can afford my contemplated change. I am also at the age of 70 now and am not a Technology Genius, so maybe I have already answered my own question, "Should I take the Leap to MIRRORLESS, or be content with my current Equipment?? Ok, I guess I will leave this New impressive Technology to our Younger Generation.
I Presently own a Nikon D3300 & 5 Nikon Lens. ... (show quote)


The D3300 (and its current iteration, the D3500) are great cameras, especially for the price. As others have noted, the menu system for the Z cameras and Nikon's DSLRs are very similar, so you won't have much trouble if you decide to buy a Nikon mirrorless. From a size perspective, the size and weight of the D3300 and Z50 are about the same. You would gain such things as a better focusing system with the Z50, more frames per second, a "WYSIWYG" EVF, focus peaking, which will help with macro photography, better integration with Snapbridge, the smartphone app, and better low light performance, among other things. You will have to buy the FTZ if you want to continue to use your F mount lenses, and battery life is much better on DSLRs than mirrorless.

The good news is that Nikon is always having sales, and the Z50, along with the two kit lenses, make for a very light, very small, and very affordable camera package, with coverage from 16mm to 250mm. The Z50 and 16mm-50mm lens, in particular, are very small. Depending on the type of photography you like to do, the kit lenses and your existing F mount lenses may be all you need.

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