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Aug 20, 2020 10:49:32   #
Blair Shaw Jr Loc: Dunnellon,Florida
 
JRiepe wrote:
Others have said that the Tamron 150-600mm G2 lens is not sharp at the long end. I have that lens and have been very pleased with my shots taken at 600mm but possibly I have lower expectations than others. I'm posting a couple edited images taken at 600mm and I want to know if these images would have been sharper if taken with the Nikon 200-500mm lens. There's nothing to stop me from buying the Nikon lens if the consensus is that it will produce superior images. All opinions are much appreciated.
Others have said that the Tamron 150-600mm G2 lens... (show quote)


I think you are just fine. You can always rent and try before you buy the other lens. It has to please you first and foremost , not us. You shot well at 600mm.......many do not and blame the lens for their unhappiness and if you listen to them , you'll wind-up unhappy like them as well.

You are the Master of Your Disaster........

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Aug 20, 2020 11:42:07   #
FotoHog Loc: on Cloud 9
 
A full frame sensor solves all issues, period! . . .

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Aug 20, 2020 11:50:52   #
Abo
 
The week link in the photographic chain of
your sample images is not the lens; it's noise and/or noise reduction
blurring the image.

Until you get rid of that, one can't really see what the lens is doing,
apart from the chromatic aberration... which isn't bad enough to be a concern.

So drop your ISO a couple of stops and open your aperture a couple of stops... your pictures will then be sharper... and then we may be able to see if the lens (at full zoom) is good enough for
your camera or not... or if your camera is good enough for the lens or not!

Best if you can shoot at your units native ISO. Also check where the in camera noise reduction
is set too. If your camera is always applying noise reduction your pictures will always have a lack
fine detail. Make sure it is switched off!

Having said that, if you must shoot in challenging light,
the crux of the photographers technical skill is making the best compromises.

BUT to satisfy your question one needs to view an image where the camera is at its best.
So shoot something that is well lit with a very steady camera. ie mirror up and a solid tripod.
If the lens has image stabilization make sure it's turned OFF.
Also native ISO and reasonably fast shutter... and the subject can be virtually any
solid object that wont fly away... or better yet move at all.

When you've got all those ducklings in a line, we may have an opportunity to
see how sharp or dull the lens is.

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Aug 20, 2020 11:53:15   #
AirWalter Loc: Tipp City, Ohio
 
RWR wrote:
Do they look the same on my monitor as on yours? If not, any opinion I or anyone else here has is meaningless.



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Aug 20, 2020 11:56:38   #
Abo
 
FotoHog wrote:
A full frame sensor solves all issues, period! . . .


Or brings to light more issues. "period" not.

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Aug 20, 2020 11:58:16   #
mffox Loc: Avon, CT
 
Save your money. I'd be happy with the quality of your posted images.

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Aug 20, 2020 11:59:53   #
FotoHog Loc: on Cloud 9
 
Abo wrote:
Or brings to light more issues. "period" not.


I didn't want to hear that! You spoiled my argument. . . .

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Aug 20, 2020 12:00:23   #
AirWalter Loc: Tipp City, Ohio
 
JRiepe wrote:
Okay, I want to thank all who commented and shared their opinion. I'm not wanting to buy a replacement lens but I have read a few times of someone commenting that that particular lens is not sharp at 600mm and though it looks sharp to me I was wondering what am I failing to see. I'm happy with the lens for the most part.


You are not failing to see anything. Don't depend on others who have their own problems, but try to blame you for it because their equipment doesn't perform as they think it should. An awful lot of people on here think that every image displayed is terrible until it is run thru 2 or 3 or 4 editing programs to make them look different that what came out of their camera. I am by no means an "expert", but I see nothing at all wrong with your images. I would be proud to be able to say they were mine.

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Aug 20, 2020 12:07:03   #
Paradise Pirate Loc: Cape Coral, FL
 
Hi I have the G2 and heard same reports, I have on occasion reduced to 500mm which is reported sharper. I suggest a trial, static detailed subject and shoot at 500 then 600 and compare. I feel your bluebird is tack sharp and no need to spend extra money.

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Aug 20, 2020 12:08:41   #
AirWalter Loc: Tipp City, Ohio
 
Delderby wrote:
IMHO and not being an expert, I don't believe that you can expect informed answers based on the two images that you have included. You say "I'm posting a couple edited images", you do not say what you have done to them. They have certainly been edited differently to each other, and are no longer "straight from lens".
What about hardware - could mirror slap or shutter shock be the answer if you feel they could be sharper? - the pics were shot at different shutter speeds, which were, perhaps, a bit slow for 600mm. If you rely on PP to finish your images for display - what apps do you use. I downloaded your downloads and played - results are attached
IMHO and not being an expert, I don't believe that... (show quote)


Just to be honest, on my monitor your post processed work doesn't even come close to the OP's. Sorry, that is what I see. Nobody on here is going to see images the same. Too many differences in hardware!

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Aug 20, 2020 12:18:10   #
Earnest Botello Loc: Hockley, Texas
 
These two images are as good as they get, Excellent.

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Aug 20, 2020 12:22:35   #
fosis Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
 
The focus on hair feathers on the bluebird are spot on. I'm a 200-500mm owner and I can't imagine it could do better. The grain is a bit of a problem for a stickler you might be (no offense), not knowing ISO, or cropping, camera/sensor size of course. If you really wanted to smooth and degrain this, you could try light application of Topaz DeNoise or SharpenAI with noise reduction, but I don't think you can fault the lens.

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Aug 20, 2020 12:32:42   #
ramblinmen Loc: Manassas, VA
 
[quote=JRiepe]Others have said that the Tamron 150-600mm G2 lens is not sharp at the long end.

If someone hasn’t already suggested it why not rent the Nikon lens, shoot test photos with both in raw and compare before post processing?

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Aug 20, 2020 13:01:29   #
JRiepe Loc: Southern Illinois
 
I don't see any noise probably because I view my images on a 10.5 inch tablet. I suppose viewing them on a large monitor they would look pixelated. I shoot in auto ISO with a minimum shutter speed hand held. Using a tripod would cause too many missed shots. If striving for perfection I would need to make changes but since I'm happy with the shots and several others here said they would be happy with these shots I'll continue doing what I'm doing until I become dissatisfied. But I do appreciate the advise and comments. Thank you all.

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Aug 20, 2020 13:06:03   #
cambriaman Loc: Central CA Coast
 
They look good to me. My Nikon 200-500 images are not noticeably better. Be Happy!

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