Harris Eligability
Aug 16, 2020 14:20:30 #
TBPJr
Loc: South Carolina
Fotoartist wrote:
Birthright citizenship as we grant it is unique in its liberalness in the world. Name one other country that grants automatic citizenship just because you were born on their country's soil?
How about thirty?
https://www.businessinsider.com/countries-that-recognize-birthright-citizenship-jus-soli-2018-10
Aug 16, 2020 14:24:18 #
Fotoartist wrote:
Birthright citizenship as we grant it is unique in its liberalness in the world. Name one other country that grants automatic citizenship just because you were born on their country's soil?
Why name another country? Are you going there. Since I live in America, I will follow American legal system, you, Putin and Trump can follow your favorite russian rules.
Aug 16, 2020 14:38:03 #
National Park wrote:
Of course Trump won’t deny it because he wants the lie to have legs. It’s a bald faced lie, like so many things coming out of Trump’s mouth. Did he ever question the ability of Ted Cruz or John McCain-both if whom were not born in the US— to run for President? I’m sick and tired of Trump stoking fear, with racist overtones, instead of talking about his failed response to the pandemic, or his attempt to destroy the Post Office to sabotage the election.
Let’s get real shall we? There was no problem with McCain and Cruz. I doubt there is a problem with Harris either. But this is just one more idiotic smear from a Liberal, that would be you, against Trump. Get over it. Hillary LOST.
Dennis
Aug 16, 2020 16:23:04 #
1. The argument presented in that article is legal nonsense. For 150 years, "and subject to the jurisdiction thereof," was accepted to mean "not diplomats with immunity". When a black man had a chance of becoming president, some people (racists) dreamed up a crazy new interpretation of it. It was nonsense, but when you have only one loophole to exploit, you gotta go big. Now that a black women is likely to become VP, they've dusted it off and dragged it out.
2. Even if that interpretation were true (which it's not), it's doubtful his theory would apply to Harris anyway.
3. If that interpretation were true, it's much more likely that it WOULD apply to Ted Cruz. (Cruz's mother had left the US and moved to Canada, turning her back on her US ties; His father, AFAIK, never even lived in the US before Ted was born)
4. Four years ago, that VERY SAME AUTHOR, swore that Cruz WAS eligible, demonstrating both the worthlessness of that theory, and Eastman's opinion in general.
5. If this crazy idea WERE true, it would apply to most immigrants, and then ripple thru their children and their children's children, so that virtually no one residenting in the US would be a citizen.
2. Even if that interpretation were true (which it's not), it's doubtful his theory would apply to Harris anyway.
3. If that interpretation were true, it's much more likely that it WOULD apply to Ted Cruz. (Cruz's mother had left the US and moved to Canada, turning her back on her US ties; His father, AFAIK, never even lived in the US before Ted was born)
4. Four years ago, that VERY SAME AUTHOR, swore that Cruz WAS eligible, demonstrating both the worthlessness of that theory, and Eastman's opinion in general.
5. If this crazy idea WERE true, it would apply to most immigrants, and then ripple thru their children and their children's children, so that virtually no one residenting in the US would be a citizen.
Aug 16, 2020 17:11:25 #
rmalarz wrote:
It seems the information presented in this article needs to be considered, and very strongly considered at that.
--Bob
--Bob
Newsweek added some additional information at the end of the op-ed, stating the op-ed was in error.
Aug 16, 2020 17:21:21 #
IDguy
Loc: Idaho
Rose42 wrote:
That's one reason she was selected - so anyone who says anything against her will be labelled racist which is straight out of the left's playbook. Ridiculous.
She's eligible. Many dislike her for good reason. The ones who will pay attention to this are conspiracy lovers and those who simply want to damage her credibility.
She's eligible. Many dislike her for good reason. The ones who will pay attention to this are conspiracy lovers and those who simply want to damage her credibility.
Which is exactly what Newsweek did at the front of the article.
Aug 16, 2020 17:23:13 #
IDguy
Loc: Idaho
mjmoore17 wrote:
Did you poll everyone in the United States, if not your made up story means nothing.
You are welcome to research and discuss. I found it while researching.
Aug 16, 2020 17:24:45 #
IDguy wrote:
You are welcome to research and discuss. I found it while researching.
So you researched everyone. Most say you are lying.
Aug 16, 2020 17:24:59 #
IDguy
Loc: Idaho
TBPJr wrote:
What rebuttal? What falsehoods? Please make clear ... (show quote)
The Newsweek article has a link to a rebuttal at the end.
And of course they prefaced it with their rebuttal.
The assertion that England recognized citizenship by birth at the time of the constitution seems to be in error.
"United Kingdom
A child born in the United Kingdom is automatically a British citizen only if one parent is a citizen of, or settled in, the U.K."
Aug 16, 2020 17:36:56 #
IDguy wrote:
Here is an interesting view from a respected lawyer: https://www.newsweek.com/some-questions-kamala-harris-about-eligibility-opinion
Thoughts?
Thoughts?
When will the Republican Party seek to have her disqualified???
Aug 16, 2020 17:41:25 #
IDguy wrote:
The assertion that England recognized citizenship by birth at the time of the constitution seems to be in error.
"United Kingdom
A child born in the United Kingdom is automatically a British citizen only if one parent is a citizen of, or settled in, the U.K."
The assertion that England recognized citizenship by birth at the time of the constitution seems to be in error.
"United Kingdom
A child born in the United Kingdom is automatically a British citizen only if one parent is a citizen of, or settled in, the U.K."
I'm believe Great Britian had birth-right citizenship for most of its history and added the limitation you cite only fairly recently (last 30-40 years), mainly due to the influx of middle-easterners. (Britian hasn't quite gotten over its history of racism either)
Aug 16, 2020 17:51:03 #
mjmoore17 wrote:
So you researched everyone. Most say you are lying.
The voices in your head don't qualify as "most".
Aug 16, 2020 17:53:39 #
foodie65 wrote:
When will the Republican Party seek to have her disqualified???
If she is as mean, corrupt, dishonest, and unqualified as the Trump supporters have portrayed her, leave her on the ticket.
Aug 16, 2020 18:04:24 #
Kmgw9v wrote:
If she is as mean, corrupt, dishonest, and unqualified as the Trump supporters have portrayed her, leave her on the ticket.
I agree, my point was if she is not a US citizen, the opposition would be using any means to disqualify her, so far only talk by tRump trolls, no legal action(s) against her
Aug 16, 2020 18:04:57 #
dennis2146 wrote:
And STILL whining and crying over it like a little girl.
Dennis
Dennis
It appears I've offended the sensibilities the gung-ho "two-tour-door-gunner" cum-copper cum-screw that won't shut up about it ... ever.
You're the guy that said here, on this board, killing the unarmed Kent State war protesters was the right thing to do.
You'll keep.
Like I said, this is the only place I mention being a Vietnam vet because this is the only place it seems to still be a big deal for some. Just look at some of the desperate avatars.
I was just a signal corps pole lineman ("Thank you Jesus!") but I was there (only ONCE, thank God) and your leader called in sick ... five times.
Plus I enjoy seeing the gung-ho constantly trying to big-up Johnny BoneSpurs.
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