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Jul 23, 2020 09:32:08   #
IHH61 Loc: Homestead Fl
 
As Gene51 said it all depends on what you are trying to achieve. For motor sports, both NASCAR and sports cars I’m usually in AV and lowest Iso. For panning shots I go to f11 or higher to get a slow enough shutter speed. For pit stops wide open to f5.6 or 8 and auto Iso with a minimum shutter speed set. For podium/winner’s circle manual with flash on ETTL

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Jul 23, 2020 09:40:05   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
Personally, I have little choice in the matter. It's all manual. The only non-manual thing is autofocus on the camera that offers it.
--Bob
Timg30 wrote:
Debating topic with friends.

Scenario
High speed race cars.

Manual iso
Manual shutter speed
Manual fstop

Or
Auto iso
Shutter priority

What’s the pro con of each.

Have my opinion and preference but would like to hear other opinions.

Thanks

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Jul 23, 2020 10:22:08   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
If you own a truly modern camera, such as an EOS 5DIV or EOS 90D, you'll know camera technology has advanced to the best of all worlds. Specifically, Exposure Compensation (EC) with AUTO ISO in Manual. You'll determine your shutterspeed and aperture combination in manual and then place the meter to the right with EC managing the ISO. Then, shoot away, adjusting the shutter and / or aperture while the camera dynamically maintains the exposure via the ISO. This is the Pro's Professional Mode.
If you own a truly modern camera, such as an EOS 5... (show quote)


👍👍 Exactly!

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Jul 23, 2020 10:42:24   #
Picture Taker Loc: Michigan Thumb
 
Taking pictures is an individual thing. The settings are malleable and the more proficient you get the more varied you become. If you want to chose one setting it can only be "P" as that will be more responsive to various situations.

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Jul 23, 2020 10:49:45   #
photoman43
 
It may depend on your camera model. On my Nikon D 500 and D 850, I would us Aperture priority, Auto ISO, with a minimum required shutter speed set in the Auto ISO setting. As light changes my ISO changes, not my shutter speed. And if I choose to change the aperture, then my ISO changes and not my shutter speed.

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Jul 23, 2020 11:31:53   #
williejoha
 
Manual with auto ISO and EC would be my suggestion.
WJH

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Jul 23, 2020 11:47:27   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
Since going digital I have never shot purely manual. I have either shot shutter priority or aperture priority based upon the situation. However, let's say I chose shutter priority. Based upon test shots, if I did not like the aperture chosen by the camera, I would adjust the ISO until I did like it. I would, in fact, make sure that I was happy with all three. No, it's not manual, but it's pretty darn close. My guess is that if you were to shoot manual in your situation you would select a shutter speed first and then adjust aperture and ISO to make sure that you had good exposure. What's the difference?

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Jul 23, 2020 11:54:51   #
Picture Taker Loc: Michigan Thumb
 
If were had one correct way the camera manufactures would not have to give us all the options for us to make.

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Jul 23, 2020 12:11:45   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
Picture Taker wrote:
If were had one correct way the camera manufactures would not have to give us all the options for us to make.


Excellent point.

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Jul 23, 2020 12:43:29   #
larryepage Loc: North Texas area
 
Timg30 wrote:
Debating topic with friends.

Scenario
High speed race cars.

Manual iso
Manual shutter speed
Manual fstop

Or
Auto iso
Shutter priority

What’s the pro con of each.

Have my opinion and preference but would like to hear other opinions.

Thanks


The truth is that even when you are shooting in full manual mode (on the camera), you are still using either aperture priority, shutter priority, or maybe even program mode in your mind. Think about it for a minute...for a moving subject, you will pick a shutter speed that freezes the subject (or not, perhaps). Once that's done, you then pick an aperture to provide proper exposure. That sounds a lot like shutter priority. For stationary subjects, you will generally pick an aperture that renders the desired depth of field, then use shutter sped to get the correct exposure. That sounds like aperture priority. Sometimes, you will play with both, berhaps to avoid extreme values of either. That's what the camera does in Program mode.

I have played with floating ISO and demonstrated to myself that it doesn't work for me, either in any of the automatic modes or in "manual," which, of course, it isn't. It can change the character of my images in ways that I wouldn't choose to do. And I know...lots of folks here swear by it, just like in my photo club. I do not.

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Jul 23, 2020 13:23:30   #
CatMarley Loc: North Carolina
 
Timg30 wrote:
Debating topic with friends.

Scenario
High speed race cars.

Manual iso
Manual shutter speed
Manual fstop

Or
Auto iso
Shutter priority

What’s the pro con of each.

Have my opinion and preference but would like to hear other opinions.

Thanks


Shutter priority I use quite a bit because I am always shooting puppies who move almost as much as hummingbirds. If I were just a normal person, and not a dog breeder I would probably be using aperture priority more than any other mode. The last thing I worry about and rarely fiddle with is ISO, because the cameras I use give very good results no matter what ISO is used. Full manual is something I rarely use. Our cameras are capable of very sophisticated adjustments and compromises and they do it very quickly and efficiently. At least my Fujis do. So I say let them do it. No need for me to throw away all that engineering just so I can DIY.

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Jul 23, 2020 14:26:03   #
Bullfrog Bill Loc: CT
 
Auto ISO, shutter priority - Set arperture to control depth of field, usually wide open, set shutter for what you are trying to accomplish, freeze action, pan and blur background and remember you don't want to freeze wheel movement as it shows speed. Start with 1/125th sec.

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Jul 23, 2020 15:56:10   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
winhto wrote:
If you understand lighting, you'll never have to use auto regardless and you'll spend less time sitting in front of your computer. My camera is always set on M.

Nikon D750


In shooting in Florida wetlands birds commonly fly from shadows to sunlight back to shadows, in manual you would be wrong either one time or two. Sorry, manual is not ALWAYS the right way to go.

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Jul 23, 2020 16:15:47   #
frankraney Loc: Clovis, Ca.
 
Timg30 wrote:
Debating topic with friends.

Scenario
High speed race cars.

Manual iso
Manual shutter speed
Manual fstop

Or
Auto iso
Shutter priority

What’s the pro con of each.

Have my opinion and preference but would like to hear other opinions.

Thanks


Auto ISO would be for quickly changing lighting conditions. Since you're on a racetrack and that's not going to happen typically unless it's a cloudy day and clouds come over and drastically change the conditions full manual the way to go.

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Jul 23, 2020 16:18:20   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
frankraney wrote:
Auto ISO would be for quickly changing lighting conditions. Since you're on a racetrack and that's not going to happen typically unless it's a cloudy day and clouds come over and drastically change the conditions full manual the way to go.


But if you’re panning with a car that drives through shadows, the optimal exposure can change by several stops during the pan.

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