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Jul 15, 2020 14:53:54   #
Brucej67 Loc: Cary, NC
 
mr spock wrote:
In the almost 4 years I’ve been a member of this forum I’ve come to realize most members seem to be “mature” individuals (over 60). In addition virtually all of the people in my camera club are over 60. Now I realize these groups certainly dont reflect the entire photographic world. However It does bring a question to mind. Is it possible that younger people are not as interested in becoming “photographers”, professional or recreational as we are?
Virtually every person walks around with a smart phone in his/her pocket. Not only does a smart phone contain a camera, but that camera has rapidly become almost as good as any DSLR. I have a feeling that for most people popping a smart phone out of their pocket to take a picture is much preferred to carrying 20 pounds of camera equipment around. There’ll always be a certain portion of the population that is old school and feels you need a good DSLR, lenses, tripod etc. to take good pictures. As the years go by that group will become smaller and smaller.
So in my mind the real question is not where will new photography equipment come from but where will new photographers come from?
Does this make any sense or am I all wet .
In the almost 4 years I’ve been a member of this f... (show quote)


Also depends on the type of photography you are doing. As advanced as the camera phone is or will be they will still have a hard time using it for nature photography as well as macro without attachments and if you add attachments it is no longer a simple camera phone.

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Jul 15, 2020 14:58:38   #
mikestachowiak Loc: Buffalo, NY
 
I agree it’s all about the art. And how you want to present it.

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Jul 15, 2020 15:13:29   #
LEWHITE7747 Loc: 33773
 
Cell phones can't match a good long lens and good crop sensor camera

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Jul 15, 2020 15:30:30   #
RodeoMan Loc: St Joseph, Missouri
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
The young man who already lusts for newer gear is already an old man.


Grass is always greener on the other side of fence for man who has money in pocket.

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Jul 15, 2020 15:31:24   #
PhotogHobbyist Loc: Bradford, PA
 
I have not read all the posts here, but enough I think, to get the general idea. That plus I'm not wanting to take the time to read eight pages of similar thoughts with maybe a few different ones thrown in.

So here is my thought, cell phone cameras have come a long way and their cameras have improved greatly. The DSLR also has improved greatly. I question how many of those cell phone pictures (photos) get printed or even saved to a hard drive. So, how many of them will be truly saved for future generations? What becomes of the photos on a cell phone if it gets dropped and broken to the point that photos are not salvageable? How about the phones that get lost?

I believe that we DSLR using photographers have the habit of moving our photos to a computer for post processing, or culling, and then saving. Granted a computer can crash and many photos get lost via that problem, but we are also careful and backup our photos. There are numerous discussions here about how to do that.

Therefore, I sincerely think that the DSLR, MILC or Bridge cameras will continue and survive. They may become endangered but not totally extinct.

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Jul 15, 2020 15:34:53   #
LEWHITE7747 Loc: 33773
 
What about the cloud--soon cards will become less of a tool to store pics--already these new cameras will go right to the cloud.

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Jul 15, 2020 15:37:40   #
RodeoMan Loc: St Joseph, Missouri
 
Wingpilot wrote:
I think we, who are older and have been involved in photography for so long, tend to be possessive of our hobby, and profession if professional, and tend to take a somewhat dim view of those who just use a cellphone camera. That’s natural, as we take a bit of pride in creating a beautiful or thought-provoking image, taking what we do seriously when we do it, whether for commercial or personal purposes. But that doesn’t invalidate the cellphone cameras. It’s not that youngsters are by nature lazy or incompetent, but I believe they look at photography, not as a means to an end, but as a means to enjoyment and to share their images with others. It’s a cultural thing. Is it that they don’t care? I don’t think so. I think it’s because life is rather complicated for the younger set anymore, and it’s likely to get a lot more complicated in the near future. For them, I think photography is just an integral part of life, and the cellphone camera makes for an easy way to share life.
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I agree with what you say and think that it very well could be the most intelligent statement ever to come out of Wasilla, Alaska. Another point that should be made is that young people as a rule do not have the money on hand to spend on advanced photography equipment.

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Jul 15, 2020 15:41:33   #
hankswan
 
The same outcome has hit most all hobbies . The coming years will whittle down the number of participants in hobby clubs and they will eventually close. The younger generation wants less in the process and more in the reward. They have little thought of the sense of accomplishment and pride in learning how to do something that rewards the craftsman.

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Jul 15, 2020 15:42:02   #
no12mo
 
quixdraw wrote:
Wet, Dry, more likely bored, and doing some light trolling.



I think you have summed it up.


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Jul 15, 2020 15:42:43   #
RodeoMan Loc: St Joseph, Missouri
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Who needs a $1000 camera, 2x $800 lenses when you have a $800 phone that takes better pictures? When the phone isn't the best result, just go to FB and download someone else' pictures and post them as your own. Bing bang boom.


Cell phone in hand better than DSLR in dresser drawer.

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Jul 15, 2020 15:55:03   #
RodeoMan Loc: St Joseph, Missouri
 
aellman wrote:
When you say camera phones can be as good as DSLRs, keep in mind that the creative controls like shutter speed and aperture on phones are digital imitations. I use my iPhone often and get very good results, but I would not use it for planned assignments, when I want the "real" creative controls of my DSLRs and resulting image quality. Nevertheless...

Horseneck Beach. Westport, MA. Sept 2019. iPhone 6s.


This is an interesting image but for my purposes it is lacking whether from an cell phone or DSLR. The problem is that unless you were the one who made the photography, there is no way to identify the people in the image. Whether cell phone or DSLR no image is ultimately worth much if it does not make the migration from pixels to paper.

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Jul 15, 2020 16:02:24   #
RodeoMan Loc: St Joseph, Missouri
 
SueScott wrote:
I have five grandchildren, all in the same family. They have grown up with Grandma's camera constantly in their faces and have seen what a camera can do. They each receive a Nikon point & shoot camera for their 10th birthday, something that they look forward to with the 8yo youngest chomping at the bit to get his in two years! Oldest grandson (13yo) has graduated to a D3500 which he loves and the 10yo who just received her camera looks like she is going to develop a passion. The other two like their cameras but don't have a passion for photography, which is OK with me - my purpose has been to introduce them to the craft and enable them to become familiar with the use of a camera. The whole point of this narrative is to show that we can influence and direct the younger generation by our personal love for photography.
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Sue, I don't know you, but I bet you have photographs of various members of your family from generations before this one. These images help to tell the story of your family. What you are doing by giving cameras to your grandchildren and encouraging them in the craft of photography is insuring that the story of your family will continue to be told into the next generations. This is especially true if the images they make do not remain on SD cards but are made into paper prints.

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Jul 15, 2020 16:11:02   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
RodeoMan wrote:
Cell phone in hand better than DSLR in dresser drawer.


Exactly. Too often, the opportunity knocks, but by the time you set-up your tripod, focus on the subject, figure out the exposure, and turn off the stabilization, it's too late.

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Jul 15, 2020 16:26:48   #
RodeoMan Loc: St Joseph, Missouri
 
Longshadow wrote:
No, I do not. Just Facebook for family and friends, but a lot of other garbage shows up. None of my connections have used the term, yet.
It's only the second time I've seen it.
The first time I blew it off as the person hit "send" before they finished their statement.
I suppose soon we'll be back to hieroglyphics also...

Thanks. Learn something new every day.
No, I do not. Just Facebook for family and friends... (show quote)


Longshadow, I also learned something new, but would comment that communication shortcuts that one would apply on the back of a cell phone while texting isn't what we need to be doing when we are "talking" back and forth on a site such as UHH.

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Jul 15, 2020 16:37:08   #
johngault007 Loc: Florida Panhandle
 
RodeoMan wrote:
Longshadow, I also learned something new, but would comment that communication shortcuts that one would apply on the back of a cell phone while texting isn't what we need to be doing when we are "talking" back and forth on a site such as UHH.


And that is the underlying concern that maybe wasn't mentioned in the title of this thread. Communication patterns change, and many have adapted text/social media shortcuts to all forms of communication. If people aren't receptive to it then those people will simply not come in or feel like they belong. It doesn't mean you have to change your communication patterns.

These younger folk are out there talking about photography, learning about photography, and most importantly doing photography. We just aren't in their communication paths.

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