Slave is a word derived to describe a person owned by another back when the owned persons would be most commonly be of Slavic decent* - So common, in fact, that the word for their race became the very description of what we generally know now as slavery. So calling a black person "slave", is in itself, contradictory, and we are in effect banning the name of people of Slavic decent, and not accurate now, for 150 years.
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https://ahdictionary.com/word/search.html?q=slaveWe should thus ban to concept of anything controlling or owning another. The steering wheel controls and owns the tire, each piece in that train, is part of the crime. Don't get us started again on the break system! The damn Bank owns me, my house and at least one of my cars! ROFL
Note that where slavery still exists, they have their own words for it. I would think that whatever those words are, they are the ones that would be more appropriate to ban- but that holds no idiotic political correctness \ gravity.
And if you are any color ( and everybody has a color) , you have a very high chance of being both a descendant of slave owners and slaves alike somewhere in history. Slavery is as old as time and it was EVERYWHERE- New world and old- every corner-it knew no color barriers.
Today, some of us have decided if we are a slave or not- guess it depends on what advantages it offers. And we now arrive at the crux of the issue- what status provides the most advantages.
BusterCrabbe wrote:
It is good to joke about it and joke we should, however, two things we should not do. Start saying stupid things like 'Thanks Democrats' and in addition try to understand why this occurs and how it is applied. The idea bend getting rid of some terms is a good one. Blacklist for example, We are not banning the word black but the word blacklist which had a deliberate negative meaning to it. Not words that use black to refer to darkness. You can be in a black mood, or have a black out.... It is fun to make fun of it but stop the politicizing and yes, there is systemic racism. For example, most of us have said at one time or another that one person 'jewed' the price down........ and had thought noting of it and certainly not with a racist thought. But if that truly causes pain to someone (presumably of a Jewish persuasion), is it that difficult to be mindful of others?
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So ban all words with a <deliberate> negative meaning???
What should we change to for email whitelist and blacklist?
Acceptable and rejectable?
Then, hasn't rejectable taken on the negative meaning as blacklist? Now rejectable must be removed.....
Lightlist/darklist?
Where do we stop? Negative
anything not allowed?
Bring on the unicorns, butterflies, and rainbows...
Los-Angeles-Shooter wrote:
Canon Has Officially Stopped Using the Terms ‘Master’ and ‘Slave’
As protests against supposed "systemic racism" swept the globe this year, there have been calls by some photographers for ending the use of the terms “master” and “slave” in the industry. Now Canon has come forward as the first camera company to officially stop using those terms on its camera gear.
In photographic lighting, a “master” device is one that is able to control/trigger a “slave” device. While these terms have been standard in the industry for decades, some have argued that they’re unnecessary ones that could easily be replaced with alternatives (e.g. “transmitter” and “receiver”).
Photographer Jason Parnell-Brookes of Fstoppers reports that Canon began ending use of “master” and “slave” in 2017 and has officially discontinued their use moving forward across its product lines.
“Canon started to phase these [terms] out since the end of 2017,” a Canon Europe spokesperson tells Fstoppers. “[In] all new products and materials, these terms are no longer used.”
The change will only be found on new Canon gear, as the terms are permanently baked into existing gear.
“Products released before this time, and still available, will still have the term as it’s often a physical part of the LCD display so can’t be changed by firmware, etc,” Canon tells Fstoppers.
As Canon is the leading manufacturer in the camera industry, it seems likely that other brands, both big and small, will follow its lead, and that this change in naming conventions may be a permanent one in the industry moving forward.
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Well, isn't that just stupid
More political correctness bullshit.
Therefore, does the crew member who puts the bait on the hook on a charter boat become a "Master Baiter"?
bwana
Loc: Bergen, Alberta, Canada
Los-Angeles-Shooter wrote:
Canon Has Officially Stopped Using the Terms ‘Master’ and ‘Slave’
As protests against supposed "systemic racism" swept the globe this year, there have been calls by some photographers for ending the use of the terms “master” and “slave” in the industry. Now Canon has come forward as the first camera company to officially stop using those terms on its camera gear.
In photographic lighting, a “master” device is one that is able to control/trigger a “slave” device. While these terms have been standard in the industry for decades, some have argued that they’re unnecessary ones that could easily be replaced with alternatives (e.g. “transmitter” and “receiver”).
Photographer Jason Parnell-Brookes of Fstoppers reports that Canon began ending use of “master” and “slave” in 2017 and has officially discontinued their use moving forward across its product lines.
“Canon started to phase these [terms] out since the end of 2017,” a Canon Europe spokesperson tells Fstoppers. “[In] all new products and materials, these terms are no longer used.”
The change will only be found on new Canon gear, as the terms are permanently baked into existing gear.
“Products released before this time, and still available, will still have the term as it’s often a physical part of the LCD display so can’t be changed by firmware, etc,” Canon tells Fstoppers.
As Canon is the leading manufacturer in the camera industry, it seems likely that other brands, both big and small, will follow its lead, and that this change in naming conventions may be a permanent one in the industry moving forward.
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I suspect the next thing to go will be 'male' and 'female' designations for plugs/receptacles!? Can't have gender discrimination!!
All political correct bullshit!
bwa
I agree that political correctness can go too far. The idea that any use of the word "master" would be banned is ridiculous. And none of this is preventing any private citizen from using whatever language they want. But to me, a large corporation changing the terminology of their own products to eliminate the master-slave reference seems reasonable.
JohnSwanda wrote:
I agree that political correctness can go too far. The idea that any use of the word "master" would be banned is ridiculous. And none of this is preventing any private citizen from using whatever language they want. But to me, a large corporation changing the terminology of their own products to eliminate the master-slave reference seems reasonable.
Then I guess it hasn't actually gone too far yet...
How far would be too far?
Oops, there goes my MasterCard
rehess
Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
JohnSwanda wrote:
Go ahead and try to organize a boycott against Canon for eliminating the master-slave terminology, and see what kind of publicity you get.
We are talking about terminology.
I was a Canon user 1995-2015, but switched to Pentax after my second Rebel failed in eighteen months. I kept a "550EX" because it is the only flash I own which swivels, and I can use it with my current cameras in manual mode.
Canon is very good with marketing - I am easily convinced that a survey showed them they would offend some customers by retaining this labeling, and they lose nothing by changing it to "Primary" / "Remote" or some such thing.
rehess wrote:
We are talking about terminology.
I was a Canon user 1995-2015, but switched to Pentax after my second Rebel failed in eighteen months. I kept a "550EX" because it is the only flash I own which swivels, and I can use it with my current cameras in manual mode.
Canon is very good with marketing - I am easily convinced that a survey showed them they would offend some customers by retaining this labeling, and they lose nothing by changing it to "Primary" / "Remote" or some such thing.
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No, we are talking about a group of mental midgets with a mindset that "speech" is not "violence" (who obviously never heard the nursery rhyme "sticks and stones") and an ever larger community of organizations that are pandering to them. Let's see if Yale changes its name (because he was a slave trader! egads!)
That mob mentality is sub-human is a given. The really sad thing is nowadays far too many places have decided to show how "woke" they are by pulling stupid bullshit like this nomenclature change.
Ooh! No more "black hat hackers" versus "white hat hackers"! And someone will have to recolorize old western movies, where the bad guys wore black cowboy hats! The stupidity will know no bounds if left to the mentally incompetent peasant classes.
tommystrat wrote:
Oops, there goes my MasterCard
Hahaha...
Superior Card. No, wait, probably can't use that either.
Equal card. There! Not superior, not subordinate...
Dual Sphere???
rehess
Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
f8lee wrote:
No, we are talking about a group of mental midgets with a mindset that "speech" is not "violence" (who obviously never heard the nursery rhyme "sticks and stones") and an ever larger community of organizations that are pandering to them. Let's see if Yale changes its name (because he was a slave trader! egads!)
That mob mentality is sub-human is a given. The really sad thing is nowadays far too many places have decided to show how "woke" they are by pulling stupid bullshit like this nomenclature change.
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No, we are talking about a tight marketing environment, where very little differentiation exists amongst beginning products.
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