btbg

What do you mean they are working on compromise in Seattle?

I was just up there. Terrorists, who the mainstream media are calling peaceful protestors, have taken over a six square block of downtown and have armed individuals at barricades. They are requiring IDs to get into the area, they have destroyed a police precinct and there are reports of extortion, rape and theft, which the police are unable to respond to. There have also been fires, and smashed windows in businesses.

Meanwhile the mayor has told the police chief to leave the terrorists alone and banned the use of tear gas to disperse them. So once again, where is the compromise? Bowing to extremists and letting them do whatever they want, including breaking the law, isn't compromise, it's capitulation.

rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA

They are not shooting at each other. Compromise simply means they will talk things out - a concept not familiar to Trump {who would rather beat his chest}

Glenn Harve

Open your ears. Trumps speeches are about AMERICA, and he mocks those who cannot see its Greatness. And rightly so. Dems HATE America. They hate its history, its accomplishments, its ideology, and the Constitution. But they LOVE killing unborn defenseless "zero rights" babies, ripping them limb from limb. Many would do it post birth if they could.
That says everything you need to know about morality, hypocrisy, and direct evil of a persons soul...if they even have one.
That says a lot about the tactics and subterfuge they will use. If you condone tje killing of babies, you can justfy ANYTHING . And they do.
Anyone who supports such is my enemy. There is no "conversation" to be had. There are no "compromises" to sell your souls to. Done

rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA

You definitely sound like a trumpite.

Salomj9850

Perhaps you should read the Cornerstone Speech by Alexander Stephens, VP of the CSA.
"The new constitution has put at rest, forever, all the agitating questions relating to our peculiar institution African slavery as it exists amongst us the proper status of the negro in our form of civilization. This was the immediate cause of the late rupture and present revolution. Jefferson in his forecast, had anticipated this, as the "rock upon which the old Union would split." He was right. What was conjecture with him, is now a realized fact. But whether he fully comprehended the great truth upon which that rock stood and stands, may be doubted. The prevailing ideas entertained by him and most of the leading statesmen at the time of the formation of the old constitution, were that the enslavement of the African was in violation of the laws of nature; that it was wrong in principle, socially, morally, and politically. It was an evil they knew not well how to deal with, but the general opinion of the men of that day was that, somehow or other in the order of Providence, the institution would be evanescent and pass away. This idea, though not incorporated in the constitution, was the prevailing idea at that time. The constitution, it is true, secured every essential guarantee to the institution while it should last, and hence no argument can be justly urged against the constitutional guarantees thus secured, because of the common sentiment of the day. Those ideas, however, were fundamentally wrong. They rested upon the assumption of the equality of races. This was an error. It was a sandy foundation, and the government built upon it fell when the "storm came and the wind blew."

rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA

Nobody should be honored by the USA who believed that equality of the races is an error.

btbg

an agreement or a settlement of a dispute that is reached by each side making concessions.

The definition of a compromise is "an agreement or a settlement of a dispute that is reached by each side making concessions." The definition of compromise when used as a verb is "settle a dispute by mutual concession."

Neither of those things is happening in Seattle. If I can't walk down a public sidewalk or drive down a public street because people have illegally occupied it that is not compromise. When the police were ordered to withdraw and have left the area and left the area's residents defenseless, that is not compromise.

The occupiers are making a list of demands, many of which have nothing to do with racism, such as free college and housing for everyone, and are refusing to negotiate or leave until all of their demands are met, that is not compromise.

The occupiers are now even renaming crimes. They are now calling theft in the area unplanned donations and telling those who have had stuff stolen that they should be happy because the other person must have needed it more.

There is no compromise happening in Seattle. Liberal politicians capitulated to some thugs in an attempt to stop the vandalism in other parts of town, when they could have just stopped the vandalism in the first place. How would you like to be one of the people that live in the area they are now calling either CHAZ or CHOP, depending on which occupier you talk to? Do you honestly think that they believe that the occupation of their streets is compromise?

rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA

Compromise often requires that no outsiders know that you are talking.

Paul Diamond Loc: Atlanta, GA, USA

This thread was about changing times and renaming schools, streets, parks and monuments. Not about Seattle or other cities including Atlanta where there have been marches and unrest.

People are dying for no good reason. That demands a response and a reaction to try to change the future rather than reliving the past.

Texcaster Loc: Queensland

Glenn sez ... "Dems HATE America. They hate its history, its accomplishments, its ideology, and the Constitution. But they LOVE killing unborn defenseless "zero rights" babies, ripping them limb from limb. Many would do it post birth if they could.
That says everything you need to know about morality, hypocrisy, and direct evil of a persons soul...if they even have one.

Who spun you that humbug? Rupert Murdoch?

Do you think Rupert and the donor classes give fig about the three reliable trigger issues used to rally the base as needed ... abortion, guns and religion?

Paul Diamond Loc: Atlanta, GA, USA

I'll stand up against anyone who claims to be a Christian, especially the people who want to "selectively read" their Bible. These are the people who read the parts they want to believe. And they skip over or don't read the parts that don't agree with their personal or political perspective.

I had to stop attending a large world famous Atlanta church when the minister welcomed a politician, Newt Gingrich, to walk to the dais/platform/pulpit and address the full church on a Sunday. He never talked of his own sins, repentance and salvation. He never talked a message of aspiration and forgiveness. In fact, he never invoked the names of God or Jesus. His entire speech was political - "conservative" this and "democrat" that. "Republican" this and "liberal" that.

And in this way, renaming schools or military bases is akin to the above life history moment. Times change. I understand a fair amount about Robert E. Lee, the man who led the rebelling South against the USA.

I didn't think putting this subject here would devolve into a morass of something political with anger and vituperation. I had no intent to create another moment for people who seem to 'need' topics that raise their blood pressure. The USA is, in my opinion, the greatest country in the world. An important part of our greatness is our ability to bond together (e pluribus unum - from many one) and move forward, together.

thom w Loc: San Jose, CA

I've watched you for quite a period of time, mostly with admiration. Somehow I missed that you are a skilled satirist. Well done.

thom w Loc: San Jose, CA

Except, I don't believe your optimism is warranted. I believe many would celebrate honoring lynchings, and complain about the fact that except for a very small group, they are no longer socially acceptable. I truly hope that you are right and I am wrong.

thom w Loc: San Jose, CA

As far as slamming, I think this particular idea of yours really sucks. As far as personalizing this and saying you suck, I don't know you, and don't know enough about you to go there. A pardon restores rights (which Lee never lost) it doesn't erase history. Even if leading the Confederate army was his only offense (I don't know that it was) it was a really major one. Lee was a traitor. He led the Confederated forces against the United States of America. That he helped to support slavery (whether or not he was personally in favor of it) is abhorrent, but not in and of it self traitorous, that he led an armed attack on the United States certainly is.

thom w Loc: San Jose, CA

You have to be traitorous, with the assistance of Communists, to be against honoring traitors to the United States? According to who?