We have a neighborhood app called nextdoor.com where local people post problems, items for sale, items wanted, etc. Lately, there have been a few posts about an online seller called Coverou, in China. This seems to be their routine. They advertise a product at a good price, accept your order, and then post bogus UPS delivery information. The UPS info is actually correct, as far as it goes. One man said the UPS delivery confirmation was for a package from Amazon, not Coverou, and it was sent to a different name and a different address in his town. Because Coverou sent this delivery confirmation to PayPal, PayPal accepted it on face value, not confirming the validity of the delivery information.
I don't know how a Chinese company obtains valid UPS delivery info, but that seems to be their routine way of doing business. Since PayPal apparently accepts any form of "proof," don't expect PP to decide in your favor if you have a claim. Limit your buying to sellers you know well.
China seems to be the epi center of problems lately. Im sure there are millions of Chinese people who are good citizens, but I don't hold the government or some unscrupulous crooks to the same level of trust.
jerryc41 wrote:
We have a neighborhood app called nextdoor.com where local people post problems, items for sale, items wanted, etc. Lately, there have been a few posts about an online seller called Coverou, in China. This seems to be their routine. They advertise a product at a good price, accept your order, and then post bogus UPS delivery information. The UPS info is actually correct, as far as it goes. One man said the UPS delivery confirmation was for a package from Amazon, not Coverou, and it was sent to a different name and a different address in his town. Because Coverou sent this delivery confirmation to PayPal, PayPal accepted it on face value, not confirming the validity of the delivery information.
I don't know how a Chinese company obtains valid UPS delivery info, but that seems to be their routine way of doing business. Since PayPal apparently accepts any form of "proof," don't expect PP to decide in your favor if you have a claim. Limit your buying to sellers you know well.
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PAYPAL isn't as safe as it's cracked up to be. They forward your money and if something is wrong they don't stand behind the seller in trying to retrieve a refund of their money. i personally have had better results with Ebay.
Bigmike1
Loc: I am from Gaffney, S.C. but live in Utah.
I don't think I would trust anything from China. Doing online business from there is a lot like the African prince, who wants you to allow him to deposit millions into your account so he can get it out of his country. Buy American.
Bigmike1 wrote:
I don't think I would trust anything from China. Doing online business from there is a lot like the African prince, who wants you to allow him to deposit millions into your account so he can get it out of his country. Buy American.
Many of those products are made in China...and many American sellers are selling products made in China. Thus, it's not always easy to "buy American". We have Nafta (and other "free trade" agreements) and the American consumer to thank for this...
jerryc41 wrote:
We have a neighborhood app called nextdoor.com where local people post problems, items for sale, items wanted, etc. Lately, there have been a few posts about an online seller called Coverou, in China. This seems to be their routine. They advertise a product at a good price, accept your order, and then post bogus UPS delivery information. The UPS info is actually correct, as far as it goes. One man said the UPS delivery confirmation was for a package from Amazon, not Coverou, and it was sent to a different name and a different address in his town. Because Coverou sent this delivery confirmation to PayPal, PayPal accepted it on face value, not confirming the validity of the delivery information.
I don't know how a Chinese company obtains valid UPS delivery info, but that seems to be their routine way of doing business. Since PayPal apparently accepts any form of "proof," don't expect PP to decide in your favor if you have a claim. Limit your buying to sellers you know well.
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yes I had a similar incident last month with them and it is not resolved to date.
NAFTA was suppose to be eliminated in March 2020, by the new agreement Trump made with Mexico and Canada (USMCA).
If it's too good to be true............you know the rest!
Caveat emptor. Let the Buyer Beware.
Two good rules to live by in today's marketplace.
Bigmike1
Loc: I am from Gaffney, S.C. but live in Utah.
Screamin Scott wrote:
Many of those products are made in China...and many American sellers are selling products made in China. Thus, it's not always easy to "buy American". We have Nafta (and other "free trade" agreements) and the American consumer to thank for this...
What I meant to say was buy from a source in this country. Don't trust someone 6 thousand miles away where you have no recourse.
I get that Bigmike1 and I agree, we need to get back to buying and manufacturing things in America and other North American country's.
Bigmike1 wrote:
What I meant to say was buy from a source in this country. Don't trust someone 6 thousand miles away where you have no recourse.
It is hard to tell where the true source is. I purchased an item on-line from a company with an American address. I paid double the price to get it from a US supplier vs Chinese suppliers. Turned out it was 'shipped' from China. Bought the item on April 30 - still waiting for it to arrive.
repleo wrote:
It is hard to tell where the true source is. I purchased an item on-line from a company with an American address. I paid double the price to get it from a US supplier vs Chinese suppliers. Turned out it was 'shipped' from China. Bought the item on April 30 - still waiting for it to arrive.
As did I through Amazon. I ordered it on 4/30. It came 6/1
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