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Jun 3, 2020 13:03:11   #
gorgehiker Loc: Lexington, Ky
 
When I try to discuss the long list of African Americans murdered by police officers, my conservative friends immediately change the subject to officers killed in the line of duty or black kids shooting black kids. Those are important but separate issues. Racism in our police forces obviously exists and should be recognized. Black Republican Senator Tim Scott was stopped by police 7 times in one year. Have any of the white readers of this post been stopped by police 7 times in a year? Our country will never be great no matter who is president if we can't find a solution for systemic racism in police forces and in our society.

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Jun 3, 2020 13:25:00   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
gorgehiker wrote:
When I try to discuss the long list of African Americans murdered by police officers, my conservative friends immediately change the subject to officers killed in the line of duty or black kids shooting black kids. Those are important but separate issues. Racism in our police forces obviously exists and should be recognized. Black Republican Senator Tim Scott was stopped by police 7 times in one year. Have any of the white readers of this post been stopped by police 7 times in a year? Our country will never be great no matter who is president if we can't find a solution for systemic racism in police forces and in our society.
When I try to discuss the long list of African Ame... (show quote)


I am an old white guy—-I don’t pretend to understand, but I am aware enough to see the obvious.
One has to be in a black skin to truly understand, and feel what a black man or women must feel.

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Jun 3, 2020 13:55:12   #
ecar Loc: Oregon, USA
 
gorgehiker wrote:
When I try to discuss the long list of African Americans murdered by police officers, my conservative friends immediately change the subject to officers killed in the line of duty or black kids shooting black kids. Those are important but separate issues. Racism in our police forces obviously exists and should be recognized. Black Republican Senator Tim Scott was stopped by police 7 times in one year. Have any of the white readers of this post been stopped by police 7 times in a year? Our country will never be great no matter who is president if we can't find a solution for systemic racism in police forces and in our society.
When I try to discuss the long list of African Ame... (show quote)


Although Racism is another form of hate, it should not be tolerated in any police force in America. IMHO, it's impossible to eliminate hate in America, but we could eliminate it in our police.

It's the responsibility of the frontline police supervisors, managers, and administrators, to police the police, and remove problem officers. In Minneapolis, I guarantee you, that the supervisors and up, knew about the problems with these officers, but did nothing about it. Why? Some of it is lack of procedural knowledge, some is lack of support in the chain of command, and some of it is the blue line, the fear of being labeled.

The real problem is at the top, in the form of not disciplining and demanding the proper conduct within the ranks of the force. The chief's and command staff should demand, and follow up the demand within the ranks, the proper demeanor and conduct that's acceptable. The chief's, dep chief's, commanders, captains, lieutenants, and sergeants should know their respective subordinates, who's good, who's weak, and the problem children in their respective units. There should be no hesitation to act when an officer or whoever, needs disciplinary action. But frequently, this doesn't happen, for a number of reasons. And the Mayors, Governors, or heads, should be in constant contact with the leaders of the police force going over any issues that may exist. And demanding that everyone do their jobs properly.

And there are proper ways to supervise a unit, things the supervisors should be doing, but that's another issue.

Take Minneapolis as the example, the officer involved was known to be a problem, disciplined I believe 18 times, and yet he was still allowed to patrol the street. Minneapolis apparently didn't know how to discipline this officer. Or couldn't. In the event of lack of knowledge, or lack of courage, that particular officer should have been riding a desk, or other function, where he wouldn't of been able to harm anyone. But that didn't happen. The result, a man lost his life, the family will own a good piece of Minneapolis, and the taxpayers will be footing the bill for the failure of their elected leaders to properly run things.

And when no one in power performs their duty properly, we have at a minimum, major discontent in the electorate. And the protests and rioting.

And for whatever reason, some of the do nothing political leaders keep getting re-elected. But not always!, and not all of them have this problem!

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Jun 3, 2020 14:03:43   #
soba1 Loc: Somewhere In So Ca
 
Ok yeah he should have shut up but imho this cop needs to be fired.
But to op’s point black on black crime and abortion has killed more blacks than cops have
Watch the video
http://youtu.be/bAHrweM0jJE

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Jun 3, 2020 14:09:47   #
tramsey Loc: Texas
 
I was watching JImmy Kimmel last night (6/2) he said that when the black talked about the white privilege it always angered him because there are a lot of white people that are poor some are even poorer than blacks. Than he said a black friend of his said that when black talk about white privilege they are talking about skin color. Whites don't have to be aware of their surroundings 24/7 or be very careful around law enforcement like blacks. He went on to say how angry it made him.
He had a good interview with Shaq O'Neil on the same subject

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Jun 3, 2020 14:11:36   #
Bill 45
 
soba1 wrote:
Ok yeah he should have shut up but imho this cop needs to be fired.
But to op’s point black on black crime and abortion has killed more blacks than cops have
Watch the video
http://youtu.be/bAHrweM0jJE


Get people to write and talk about some thing else, that the best way for people to forget what going on. Off the front page and put it after the classfile adds .

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Jun 3, 2020 15:17:52   #
soba1 Loc: Somewhere In So Ca
 
Bill 45 wrote:
Get people to write and talk about some thing else, that the best way for people to forget what going on. Off the front page and put it after the classfile adds .


Yep

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Jun 3, 2020 15:19:32   #
soba1 Loc: Somewhere In So Ca
 
tramsey wrote:
I was watching JImmy Kimmel last night (6/2) he said that when the black talked about the white privilege it always angered him because there are a lot of white people that are poor some are even poorer than blacks. Than he said a black friend of his said that when black talk about white privilege they are talking about skin color. Whites don't have to be aware of their surroundings 24/7 or be very careful around law enforcement like blacks. He went on to say how angry it made him.
He had a good interview with Shaq O'Neil on the same subject
I was watching JImmy Kimmel last night (6/2) he sa... (show quote)


It’s conditioning

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Jun 3, 2020 15:36:03   #
travelwp Loc: New Jersey
 
gorgehiker wrote:
Our country will never be great no matter who is president if we can't find a solution for systemic racism in police forces and in our society.


I always look to Rev. Sharpton for solutions to systemic racism. He has been a civil rights activist for over 50 years.




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Jun 3, 2020 18:21:17   #
soba1 Loc: Somewhere In So Ca
 
travelwp wrote:
I always look to Rev. Sharpton for solutions to systemic racism. He has been a civil rights activist for over 50 years.





Lol why did u have to go there just wrong

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Jun 3, 2020 20:41:02   #
travelwp Loc: New Jersey
 
soba1 wrote:
Lol why did u have to go there just wrong


Because I was treated to a twice daily dose of Tawana Brawley back in the day. I like to add a smidgen of dark humor whenever possible.

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Jun 3, 2020 20:42:47   #
soba1 Loc: Somewhere In So Ca
 
travelwp wrote:
Because I was treated to a twice daily dose of Tawana Brawley back in the day. I like to add a smidgen of dark humor whenever possible.


Lol no problem.
As sad as it is they should be saying black lives matter should be in front of the abortion clinics

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Jun 3, 2020 21:39:52   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
gorgehiker wrote:
When I try to discuss the long list of African Americans murdered by police officers, my conservative friends immediately change the subject to officers killed in the line of duty or black kids shooting black kids. Those are important but separate issues. Racism in our police forces obviously exists and should be recognized. Black Republican Senator Tim Scott was stopped by police 7 times in one year. Have any of the white readers of this post been stopped by police 7 times in a year? Our country will never be great no matter who is president if we can't find a solution for systemic racism in police forces and in our society.
When I try to discuss the long list of African Ame... (show quote)


Just how many unarmed black people did the police kill each year in 2018, 2019 I just check the numbers. According to the washington post, since 2015 the police have killed about twic e as many white people as african american. About 2500 compaired to about 1300. So there is a much longer list of white people killed by the cops, why no rioting in the streets???

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Jun 4, 2020 00:43:47   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
soba1 wrote:
Ok yeah he should have shut up but imho this cop needs to be fired.
But to op’s point black on black crime and abortion has killed more blacks than cops have
Watch the video
http://youtu.be/bAHrweM0jJE


You claim to care so much about poor blacks. Why do you want to saddle black, potential mothers with costs and duties they aren't prepared to take on. Black people aren't being killed by abortion. black potential persons are. potential persons who black mothers aren't prepared to deal with. I only mention black because you make a big deal of it. There aren't people out there selling black women on the idea of abortion. There are people making it available to those who need the relief. The day women are forced into abortion I'll be right there with you. You aren't attempting to save black lives. You are trampling on black women's rights, and messing with their lives. This is not genocide you are fighting. When you can run your own life perfectly maybe you can revisit the idea of running other peoples lives.

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Jun 4, 2020 00:47:07   #
soba1 Loc: Somewhere In So Ca
 
thom w wrote:
You claim to care so much about poor blacks. Why do you want to saddle black, potential mothers with costs and duties they aren't prepared to take on. Black people aren't being killed by abortion. black potential persons are. potential persons who black mothers aren't prepared to deal with. I only mention black because you make a big deal of it. There aren't people out there selling black women on the idea of abortion. There are people making it available to those who need the relief. The day women are forced into abortion I'll be right there with you. You aren't attempting to save black lives. You are trampling on black women's rights, and messing with their lives. This is not genocide you are fighting. When you can run your own life perfectly maybe you can revisit the idea of running other peoples lives.
You claim to care so much about poor blacks. Why d... (show quote)


There are more blacks being killed by abortion than cops. Why doesn’t the left blacks included make a big deal about black on black crime. There are blacks willing to step up and help out.

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