cameraf4 Loc: Delaware

One thing ALL photographers seem to be able to do ... is talk.

Marturo Loc: Western North Carolina

When I'm down & confused, I just grab one of my Nikkon FEs & shoot a roll. :)

I have a D7100 cropper & just love the shots & ease in developing my pictures.
My hope for an upgrade would be the Nikkon D6 body with 4 PRO lenses. Bucket list :)

The D6 is a Camera no one would not say is better than a D7100, however look at the price difference.

Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.

That’s why there are crop circles. 🙃

cameraf4 Loc: Delaware

"Circles of Confusion"?

ronpier Loc: Poland Ohio

I personally cannot justify the price of the D6 for hobby only. Just my opinion.

Marturo Loc: Western North Carolina

A great read for those who need info on Camera choice.

https://digital-photography-school.com/understand-differences-full-frame-versus-crop-sensor-cameras/

The example of 24 small buckets vers. 24 large big buckets.
this was all I needed to see the difference in info gathering abilities
between a Crop vrs. Full frame.

Yes indeed a D6 will be my next D-Nikon camera.

Happy to know all my 35mm Nikon Cameras are all full frame.

DaveyDitzer Loc: Western PA

[quote=Marturo]A great read for those who need info on Camera choice.

https://digital-photography-school.com/understand-differences-full-frame-versus-crop-sensor-cameras/

The example of 24 small buckets vers. 24 large big buckets.
this was all I needed to see the difference in info gathering abilities
between a Crop vrs. Full frame.

This applies when the mp of both a crop and a ff are equal. If not, does the analogy still "hold water?"

cameraf4 Loc: Delaware

[quote=DaveyDitzer]

Had to ask that, didn't you Davey?

DaveyDitzer Loc: Western PA

I read the article from the link (thank you) and ask in more detail: I have crop bodies with 24 mp and FF with 16mp. The bucket analogy didn't answer the question of having larger buckets, but fewer of them. Now what are the implications of image quality comparing these using the same lens. I cannot personally see the image differences within "reasonable" ISO ranges. If I use geometry to solve the surface area of the bucket opening, will the analogy hold up for photon gathering ability? Using the area of a circle, A=pi x rsq. and calculating the surface opening of the "buckets" and comparing the openings on a percentage basis then multiplying by the pixel count, I still get the larger (24mp) crop sensor gathering slightly more than half the photons of the FF (16mp) sensor;if we can assume photons fill a bucket like rainwater fills a literal bucket.
A=pi x r sq
r1=100 and r2=60

cameraf4 Loc: Delaware

Makin' my head hurt, Davey.

Ysarex Loc: St. Louis

Not a good read. That article is a constant stream of misinformation. The bucket analogy is flawed and the author really doesn't understand DOF and lens focal length.

Joe

Ysarex Loc: St. Louis

The analogy doesn't hold up from the get-go. The bucket nonsense from that nonsense article is just nonsense. It's unfortunate that junk is out there and confusing people.

There is an advantage from larger sensels on a sensor but it's not what that article suggests nor is it the primary reason for the difference FF versus crop sensor. Here's a reference: https://www.dpreview.com/articles/5365920428/the-effect-of-pixel-and-sensor-sizes-on-noise/2

Joe

Marturo Loc: Western North Carolina

You know I just got into using a digital body, however I did & will continue to strive for the best
picture I can take. While the exact size seems to matter to some, it's the person who makes the photo all while we use Wet film, or a Photo sensor. Any thing change lately on that front?

What changed the reason we use the camera, & how will a D-850 make you a better photographer
that a D-610? I have seen real photographers take a P&S 110 & make outstanding photos.

Just as how we use a garden hose to demonstrate how electricity works & flows the idea that a larger
sensor will capture more Water er, I mean photographic info. Not a real heard concept if you use
your imagination.

Right now I have no time to chase equipment to improve my Photography, I only have time to
use my equipment & take the Photographs I can be proud of.

Imagine Ansel Adams showing up at a modern camera shoot today with his wooden box how the people
would howl with laughter. He did the best he could with his equipment, as do many other photographers
everyday around the world.

Practice makes perfect.

ronpier Loc: Poland Ohio

My brother howls with laughter when I take out my DSLR. Seems to think a smart phone camera is the only way to shoot.

DaveyDitzer Loc: Western PA

The author was NOT addressing DOF and field of view