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Jun 1, 2020 19:39:24   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
Leon S wrote:
I'm sorry that George Floyd is dead. why he died is still not conclusive. Yet many including Governor Walz as well as many other politicians are openly calling the arresting officer a murderer. Our leaders shouldn't be trying guilt over the media. They are affecting the future trial and juries; possibly making a trial impossible. Minneapolis has plenty of criminals living in the affected areas of Lake Street, North Minneapolis, downtown Minneapolis and University Ave in St. Paul. Many people who live in the metro area are familiar with how thugs have taken over there and openly sell drugs and are involved in other illegal activities. Police are frustrated arresting with these thugs to see them released shortly afterward and watching them immediately go back to their trade. Are the mobs made up of out of state thugs? Maybe, but Minneapolis and St. Paul already have plenty of thugs who are happy to loot, fire bomb, and terrorize without outside help.
I'm sorry that George Floyd is dead. why he died ... (show quote)

The second autopsy showed the cause of death to be asphyxiation caused by an extended period of time of pressure on the victim's neck and back.

In other words all 4 officers murdered George Floyd!

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Jun 1, 2020 19:42:58   #
yhtomit Loc: Port Land. Oregon
 
Shutterbug1697 wrote:
It's outside anarchists and right wing White Supremacists!


Thank you for foolish and irresponsible post.

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Jun 1, 2020 19:55:46   #
wilpharm Loc: Oklahoma
 
yhtomit wrote:
Thank you for foolish and irresponsible post.



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Jun 1, 2020 20:03:22   #
letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.
 
Shutterbug1697 wrote:
The second autopsy showed the cause of death to be asphyxiation caused by an extended period of time of pressure on the victim's neck and back.

In other words all 4 officers murdered George Floyd!


In a way you are very right, let's put them all on trial and let the courts do the job of deciding.

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Jun 1, 2020 20:53:28   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
Dude, you need a shrink.


Possibly. Many do. Pointing fingers wouldn't accomplish anything.

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Jun 1, 2020 21:16:25   #
Cookie223 Loc: New Jersey
 
Fotoartist wrote:
No, Antifa doesn't wear anything like MAGA hats because they are cowards to proclaim what and who they are. They have always worn masks though. And they were there in force.

Conservative groups are usually represented by heavily armed members of the militia movement, ardent supporters of the Second Amendment right to bear arms who believe it is their constitutional duty to protect citizens and businesses and they don't wear masks. And they didn't loot or riot.


👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

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Jun 1, 2020 21:38:46   #
Leon S Loc: Minnesota
 
Shutterbug1697 wrote:
The second autopsy showed the cause of death to be asphyxiation caused by an extended period of time of pressure on the victim's neck and back.

In other words all 4 officers murdered George Floyd!


Frist of all, what did you expect to come from an independent autopsy. The family would be stupid to hire a doctor who's opinion matched that of the state's clinician. I'm not a doctor and neither are you. They might now get a third person to give an independent opinion. The courts will decide and hopefully with a jury of George's equals. This whole thing is above my pay grade and probably yours too. Why don't we just sit back and see what the special prosecutor does. Keith Ellison should be adequate for the job. He also has expressed interest in charging the other three officers that were involved.

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Jun 1, 2020 21:54:18   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
Cookie223 wrote:
I’m Cuban, and grew up in Newark you moron!


White Cuban.

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Jun 1, 2020 21:55:23   #
mjmoore17 Loc: Philadelphia, PA area
 
Fotoartist wrote:
No, Antifa doesn't wear anything like MAGA hats because they are cowards to proclaim what and who they are. They have always worn masks though. And they were there in force.

Conservative groups are usually represented by heavily armed members of the militia movement, ardent supporters of the Second Amendment right to bear arms who believe it is their constitutional duty to protect citizens and businesses and they don't wear masks. And they didn't loot or riot.


Unless they are right wingers posing as Antifa. NBC News : A Twitter account claiming to belong to a national “antifa” organization and pushing violent rhetoric related to ongoing protests has been linked to the white nationalist group Identity Evropa, according to a Twitter spokesperson.

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Jun 1, 2020 22:02:25   #
wilpharm Loc: Oklahoma
 
mjmoore17 wrote:
Unless they are right wingers posing as Antifa. NBC News : A Twitter account claiming to belong to a national “antifa” organization and pushing violent rhetoric related to ongoing protests has been linked to the white nationalist group Identity Evropa, according to a Twitter spokesperson.


way out on the limb there, lil mikey!!! foolish child

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Jun 1, 2020 22:08:56   #
mjmoore17 Loc: Philadelphia, PA area
 
wilpharm wrote:
way out on the limb there, lil mikey!!! foolish child


Take a pill instead of dealing them to kids.

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Jun 1, 2020 22:17:30   #
Cookie223 Loc: New Jersey
 
SuperflyTNT wrote:
White Cuban.


Let me see if your limited intelligence understands this.
If being privileged means to you a person who has worked for a living, served his country, supported his family, never took welfare, food stamps, section 8 housing, cell phone, nor cut someone with a razor, or suckered punched a person to become a gangbanger, never looted, rioted, or burn any buildings, then hell yes I am privileged, but I earned it!
BTW, how do you that I’m white? And even if I am, and it bothers you, then you are a racist!

Now, go away put your punk mask on, and join the looters. I’m done having a battle of wits with an unarmed social outcast.

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Jun 1, 2020 22:34:03   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
Cookie223 wrote:
Let me see if your limited intelligence understands this.
If being privileged means to you a person who has worked for a living, served his country, supported his family, never took welfare, food stamps, section 8 housing, cell phone, nor cut someone with a razor, or suckered punched a person to become a gangbanger, never looted, rioted, or burn any buildings, then hell yes I am privileged, but I earned it!
BTW, how do you that I’m white? And even if I am, and it bothers you, then you are a racist!

Now, go away put your punk mask on, and join the looters. I’m done having a battle of wits with an unarmed social outcast.
Let me see if your limited intelligence understand... (show quote)


Thank you for proving me right. I’ve worked for everything I have too but I understand that many haven’t had the opportunities I’ve had simply because of their appearance. Most of those people that have known oppression you haven’t also never looted, rioted or burned buildings. Most are peaceful protesters that you are painting with a broad brush based on the actions of the few.

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Jun 2, 2020 00:30:59   #
btbg
 
Shutterbug1697 wrote:
The second autopsy showed the cause of death to be asphyxiation caused by an extended period of time of pressure on the victim's neck and back.

In other words all 4 officers murdered George Floyd!


That is not what the autopsy showed. The autopsy showed that he died of a heart attack. He had a massive does of fentynal in his system and had traces of meth. He also had heart disease. The medical examiner called it murder, but he also said that the police contributed to his death, but there were a lot of other factors involved.

Not supporting the police. They were wrong, but Floyd was on drugs, and had just attempted to pass a counterfeit $20. It's not like he was squeaky clean. People aren't even protesting the right death. Tonight in Louisville two police officers and two national guard members heard gunshots and "returned fire". They killed the owner of a barbecue restaurant, who just happened to like police and regularly gave them free meals when they were on their lunch breaks. Police make mistakes.

That is the death that should be protested. Not the death, however, senseless it was of a drug addict, who was engaged in illegal activity.

To the credit of the Louisville mayor the chief of police was fired immediately. However, the officers were only placed on administrative leave and are still being paid.

All deaths are bad, and all lives matter. That includes the business owners who's lives are being destroyed by the rioters. I sympathize with the protesters, but not with the rioters. They should be held accountable, instead the police are watching their cities burn to the ground.

Police behave badly. However, most police are honest hard working people who make our cities safer. They have a tough job and should not all be condemned because of There are few bad apples.

The rioters and looters are making things worse, not better. And unfortunately they are hurting the communities that they claim they are protesting trying to help. Let me be clear, it is not the peaceful protesters who are a problem. They have a legitimate grievance. but those who are burning our cities to the ground do not. They are part of the problem, not the solution.

By the way, the last high profile police caused death in Minneapolis was of a blonde Australian woman who was attempting to help the police and was shot by a black officer for her efforts. Just because there is police wrongdoing doesn't necessarily mean that racism was involved. It might be racism, or it might just be bad decision making and misbehavior by a police officer or officers.

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Jun 2, 2020 01:38:30   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
Leon S wrote:
Frist of all, what did you expect to come from an independent autopsy. The family would be stupid to hire a doctor who's opinion matched that of the state's clinician. I'm not a doctor and neither are you. They might now get a third person to give an independent opinion. The courts will decide and hopefully with a jury of George's equals. This whole thing is above my pay grade and probably yours too. Why don't we just sit back and see what the special prosecutor does. Keith Ellison should be adequate for the job. He also has expressed interest in charging the other three officers that were involved.
Frist of all, what did you expect to come from an ... (show quote)

Actually the official "state" autopsy also showed similar results, so do you really think a third "independent" autopsy is necessary?

It's more a matter of did they charge the officer who had his knee on George Floyd's neck with the correct crime?

Should it be first degree murder or second degree murder instead of third degree murder and manslaughter?

What will the other 2 officers who were also kneeling on George Floyd's back be charged with?

What will the officer who waved off the EMT's be charged with?

You do realize that the officer who's already been charged is currently on suicide watch, he was moved to two different jails within hours of his arrest. I don't think he'll be getting bail any time soon!

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