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Oct 1, 2012 18:05:56   #
shaz4146
 
Thanks for this...though i need to stop the purchases for a while and spend time earning how to get the most from what ive got! Safari end of october!

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Oct 1, 2012 18:13:56   #
Bram boy Loc: Vancouver Island B.C. Canada
 
shaz4146 wrote:
shaz4146 wrote:
First reply...head ok...second...hurting a bit again...off for a glass of wine!


No not the hype...hadnt even realised. Im an avid reader of reviews...on this site too...i love researching, thats how I have chosen all my cameras and holidays too on trip adviser. I can spend hours and hours reading them. I have not been disappointed. It was the best for the money that I could afford.

Want reviews go to. Thom Hogan . Com
You ill like what he has to say about the d800

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Oct 1, 2012 18:24:59   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Bram boy wrote:
shaz4146 wrote:
shaz4146 wrote:
First reply...head ok...second...hurting a bit again...off for a glass of wine!


No not the hype...hadnt even realised. Im an avid reader of reviews...on this site too...i love researching, thats how I have chosen all my cameras and holidays too on trip adviser. I can spend hours and hours reading them. I have not been disappointed. It was the best for the money that I could afford.

Want reviews go to. Thom Hogan . Com
You ill like what he has to say about the d800
quote=shaz4146 quote=shaz4146 First reply...head... (show quote)

thomhogan.com wouldn't work for me.

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Oct 1, 2012 18:32:37   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Bram boy wrote:
shaz4146 wrote:
shaz4146 wrote:
First reply...head ok...second...hurting a bit again...off for a glass of wine!


No not the hype...hadnt even realised. Im an avid reader of reviews...on this site too...i love researching, thats how I have chosen all my cameras and holidays too on trip adviser. I can spend hours and hours reading them. I have not been disappointed. It was the best for the money that I could afford.

Want reviews go to. Thom Hogan . Com
You ill like what he has to say about the d800
quote=shaz4146 quote=shaz4146 First reply...head... (show quote)

thomhogan.com wouldn't work for me.
quote=Bram boy quote=shaz4146 quote=shaz4146 Fi... (show quote)

Got it!

http://www.bythom.com/

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Oct 1, 2012 18:40:45   #
shaz4146
 
Excellent...loved reading it...he will love it on safari...just had 5weeks!
I just need to make it work for me with my sigma 150-500
Thanks for your help.

photo taken with it...first time taking dolphins
photo taken with it...first time taking dolphins...

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Oct 1, 2012 18:47:45   #
Patw28 Loc: PORT JERVIS, NY
 
MtnMan wrote:
Patw28 wrote:


BUT! be advised: the D600 does NOT provide a cable port for remote shutter release or other functions. Why not?!!! (Someone tell me I'm wrong!)


Second I read that the D600 has the same infared input ports as my D5100: front and rear. I love that because it works wondefully and I don't have to carry a cable. I keep the infared trigger in its little case right on my camera strap so it is always with me. Plus you can trigger from up to about 20 ft. away with no wire. Much better IMHO.

The diagram in the brochure shows the above plus a MC-DC2 Remote Cord input. So I guess I'm telling you that you are wrong on that one.
quote=Patw28 br br BUT! be advised: the D600 do... (show quote)


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With an rf remote you can trigger uo to hundreds of feet in broad daylight or through obstacles. You need the mc-d2port to use an rf trigger.

Diagram is wrong. There is no MC-D2 port on the D600.

As man shooter points out, they restored the front and rear ir function for the inexpensive ml-l3 trigger which,while convenient and cheap, is not rf, which is expensive and powerful.

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Oct 1, 2012 19:08:31   #
Bram boy Loc: Vancouver Island B.C. Canada
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Bram boy wrote:
shaz4146 wrote:
shaz4146 wrote:
First reply...head ok...second...hurting a bit again...off for a glass of wine!

Leave a space between hogen and thom
No not the hype...hadnt even realised. Im an avid reader of reviews...on this site too...i love researching, thats how I have chosen all my cameras and holidays too on trip adviser. I can spend hours and hours reading them. I have not been disappointed. It was the best for the money that I could afford.

Want reviews go to. Thom Hogan . Com
You ill like what he has to say about the d800
quote=shaz4146 quote=shaz4146 First reply...head... (show quote)

thomhogan.com wouldn't work for me.
quote=Bram boy quote=shaz4146 quote=shaz4146 Fi... (show quote)

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Oct 1, 2012 20:33:31   #
Nikonian72 Loc: Chico CA
 
nikonateer wrote:
If anyone needs more, follow this link for Nikon's description:
http://www.nikonusa.com/en/Learn-And-Explore/Article/g588ouey/The-DX-and-FX-Formats.html
Excellent reference. Thank you.

I have transferred the text & images to:
FAQ: How Do Lenses on Nikon DX (cropped) and FX (full) Formats Compare?
http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-67596-1.html

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Oct 1, 2012 21:18:50   #
Bram boy Loc: Vancouver Island B.C. Canada
 
shaz4146 wrote:
Excellent...loved reading it...he will love it on safari...just had 5weeks!
I just need to make it work for me with my sigma 150-500
Thanks for your help.


Dam near perfect . Great pic. Of dolfin

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Oct 1, 2012 21:47:11   #
Bram boy Loc: Vancouver Island B.C. Canada
 
jerryc41 wrote:
jerryc41 wrote:
Bram boy wrote:
shaz4146 wrote:
shaz4146 wrote:
First reply...head ok...second...hurting a bit again...off for a glass of wine!
yea just reading his take and test reports on cameras has most likely saved me a bundle. Also when the d7000 came out he first reported that the only nikon people who should upgrade are the people who had lesser cameras than the d90 . D60. D40 d80 etc. But that was his first take. he said he would a more in depth report and thats the one you see now . So now im thinking of getting a d7000 if i can get a mint hardly used one 'that should not take to long. It will happen when the d7000 users get itchee feet

No not the hype...hadnt even realised. Im an avid reader of reviews...on this site too...i love researching, thats how I have chosen all my cameras and holidays too on trip adviser. I can spend hours and hours reading them. I have not been disappointed. It was the best for the money that I could afford.
quote=shaz4146 First reply...head ok...second...h... (show quote)

Want reviews go to. Thom Hogan . Com
You ill like what he has to say about the d800
quote=shaz4146 quote=shaz4146 First reply...head... (show quote)

thomhogan.com wouldn't work for me.
quote=Bram boy quote=shaz4146 quote=shaz4146 Fi... (show quote)

Got it!

http://www.bythom.com/
quote=jerryc41 quote=Bram boy quote=shaz4146 q... (show quote)

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Oct 1, 2012 22:01:38   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
shaz4146 wrote:
Excellent...loved reading it...he will love it on safari...just had 5weeks!
I just need to make it work for me with my sigma 150-500
Thanks for your help.

Excellent. :thumbup:

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Oct 1, 2012 23:22:39   #
HarryBinNC Loc: Blue Ridge Mtns, No.Carolina, USA
 
jsleszynski wrote:
Harry, I'm confused. Are you saying that the 12-24mm Dx lens works without the crop factor on the d700? The 12-24mm is 12-24mm, not 18-32mm on the d700 when you set the dx crop off in the image area? How much of the sensor is used, the full fx or the dx size?


Yes, I have turned off the camera's default DX lens crop function so that ANY DX LENS will have access to the full 12mpx FX sensor area. I suspect that a lot of DX lenses do not have a large enough image circle to make this worthwhile. The 12-24 does, however, since I can get a true 16mm field of view from it in FX mode - you will see in the attached image that vignetting is just starting to set in at the 16mm focal length. The severely vignetted image was taken with the lens set to 12mm. The bright area shows the 5mpx image that would be captured with the DX crop function activated. The image captured is the same as you would get at the 18mm FX setting, except that when you are using the full FX frame, you have a 12mpx image instead of only 5mpx. The bottom line is, there is no good reason to use the Nikkor 12-24 in DX mode on an FX Nikon.

Since I rarely need more width than 18mm for my work, the 12-24 lens is perfect for me.

Harry

12-24@16mm-FX (Full-Frame) mode
12-24@16mm-FX (Full-Frame) mode...

12-24@12mm-FXmode w/18mmFX crop area
12-24@12mm-FXmode w/18mmFX crop area...

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Oct 1, 2012 23:52:38   #
Bram boy Loc: Vancouver Island B.C. Canada
 
Shure it works but the whole point of having a 12mm lens is for the wide angle image who wants to put it on a fx and say oh its works great' as long as your happy shooting at such and such wide angl thats not equivelent to the picture as what the lens was made for your not getting the full benafit
Out of the lens. If you do not get the exact same picture as you would on the camera that it was made for. Thats like buying a broken wide angle that is 12-24mm but stuck in or limeted to17mm to 24 mm and made for a dx

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Oct 2, 2012 00:02:02   #
Bram boy Loc: Vancouver Island B.C. Canada
 
[quote=HarryBinNC]
jsleszynski wrote:
Harry, I'm confused. Are you saying that the 12-24mm Dx lens works without the crop factor on the d700? The 12-24mm is 12-24mm, not 18-32mm on the d700 when you set the dx crop off in the image area? How much of the sensor is used, the full fx or the dx s
Are yuo serious i dont care what uou do your not getting the same picture. Here we go again . Strech widden it do what you want but your still not getting the same picture. Dont get me wrong some parts of it are the same but not the ends for sure
Yes, I have turned off the camera's default DX lens crop function so that ANY DX LENS will have access to the full 12mpx FX sensor area. I suspect that a lot of DX lenses do not have a large enough image circle to make this worthwhile. The 12-24 does, however, since I can get a true 16mm field of view from it in FX mode - you will see in the attached image that vignetting is just starting to set in at the 16mm focal length. The severely vignetted image was taken with the lens set to 12mm. The bright area shows the 5mpx image that would be captured with the DX crop function activated. The image captured is the same as you would get at the 18mm FX setting, except that when you are using the full FX frame, you have a 12mpx image instead of only 5mpx. The bottom line is, there is no good reason to use the Nikkor 12-24 in DX mode on an FX Nikon.

Since I rarely need more width than 18mm for my work, the 12-24 lens is perfect for me.

Harry
Harry, I'm confused. Are you saying that the 12-2... (show quote)

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Oct 2, 2012 00:07:26   #
Bram boy Loc: Vancouver Island B.C. Canada
 
HarryBinNC wrote:
jsleszynski wrote:
Harry, I'm confused. Are you saying that the 12-24mm Dx lens works without the crop factor on the d700? The 12-24mm is 12-24mm, not 18-32mm on the d700 when you set the dx crop off in the image area? How much of the sensor is used, the full fx or the dx size?
your pictures look nice but the cropped aera is not going to show up in the finished product "RIGHT"

Yes, I have turned off the camera's default DX lens crop function so that ANY DX LENS will have access to the full 12mpx FX sensor area. I suspect that a lot of DX lenses do not have a large enough image circle to make this worthwhile. The 12-24 does, however, since I can get a true 16mm field of view from it in FX mode - you will see in the attached image that vignetting is just starting to set in at the 16mm focal length. The severely vignetted image was taken with the lens set to 12mm. The bright area shows the 5mpx image that would be captured with the DX crop function activated. The image captured is the same as you would get at the 18mm FX setting, except that when you are using the full FX frame, you have a 12mpx image instead of only 5mpx. The bottom line is, there is no good reason to use the Nikkor 12-24 in DX mode on an FX Nikon.

Since I rarely need more width than 18mm for my work, the 12-24 lens is perfect for me.

Harry
quote=jsleszynski Harry, I'm confused. Are you s... (show quote)

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