Nikon DX on FX
Oct 1, 2012 12:47:47 #
Nikonian72 wrote:
As MT Shooter mentioned, an FX body senses a DX lens, and uses only the center section of FX sensor that matches a DX sensor.
Nice, clear graph. Explains a complicated physic subject in simple terms. Thanks.
Oct 1, 2012 12:50:31 #
HarryBinNC
Loc: Blue Ridge Mtns, No.Carolina, USA
I was delighted to learn that I could use one of my favorite DX lenses (12-24/4.0) in full FX mode on my D700 after upgrading from the D200.
Not only that, but I can use it wide open all the way down to about 16mm before serious vignetting starts creeping in. The D700 default was to automatically crop any DX lens image, but fortunately, there is a "Image Area" setting in the Shooting Menu that allows you to turn off the DX lens cropping. I suspect that the other FX Nikons also have this setting.
That capability has allowed me to continue using a great lens for a lot of the building interiors I do, and saved me the expense of buying the 14-24.
Harry
Not only that, but I can use it wide open all the way down to about 16mm before serious vignetting starts creeping in. The D700 default was to automatically crop any DX lens image, but fortunately, there is a "Image Area" setting in the Shooting Menu that allows you to turn off the DX lens cropping. I suspect that the other FX Nikons also have this setting.
That capability has allowed me to continue using a great lens for a lot of the building interiors I do, and saved me the expense of buying the 14-24.
Harry
Oct 1, 2012 13:10:34 #
HarryBinNC wrote:
I was delighted to learn that I could use one of m... (show quote)
Any chance of posting a photo shot with the 12-24 in the FF mode so we can see how much vignetting there is?
I'd be interested to see. The D700 I use went to Europe without me.
Oct 1, 2012 13:46:09 #
Bram boy wrote:
No your confused a 10mm dx lens on a dx camera it would be 10mm ,put same lens on fx it becomes 15mm its simple you just add around half of what ever mm the lens is or takeaway half depending on which camera it goes on. Fx to dx pluse half .
There is no such thing as a 10mm DX lens. A 10mm lens is a 10mm lens - period. Some 10mm lenses cannot cover the full size of an FX sensor so they are designated as DX lenses - but they are still 10mm lenses no matter what camera they are attached to. All Nikon F mount lenses are labelled by their focal length on a 35mm camera. If they are mounted on a DX camera their apparent focal length is multiplied by 1.5. But this is only an illusion based on the narrower field of view. There is no lens in existence that has 10mm engraved on the barrel that functions as a 15mm lens on a full frame (FX) camera.
Oct 1, 2012 13:48:12 #
Harry, I'm confused. Are you saying that the 12-24mm Dx lens works without the crop factor on the d700? The 12-24mm is 12-24mm, not 18-32mm on the d700 when you set the dx crop off in the image area? How much of the sensor is used, the full fx or the dx size?
Oct 1, 2012 13:49:43 #
mcveed wrote:
quote=Bram boy No your confused a 10mm dx lens on... (show quote)
Sometimes I think there needs to be a section devoted just for this subject. (Besides the FAQ's)
BramBoy- you are the one who is confused.
You sort of have it backwards.
And btw, lenses do not become a different focal length on different format cameras. The only thing that changes is the angle of view. Quit spreading misinformation!!!
Oct 1, 2012 14:01:03 #
mcveed wrote:
All Nikon F mount lenses are labelled by their focal length on a 35mm camera.
All Nikon F interchangeble mount lenses are labeled by their focal length period...no matter what format they are designed for.
On a DX camera, the 35mm setting on a 17-55 DX lens yields exactly the same view as the 35mm setting from the 24-70 FX lens. If I put a 35mm lens from a meduim format camera on that DX camera, that too would have the same angle of view and give the same result.
Oct 1, 2012 14:04:37 #
MT Shooter wrote:
The D600 does not provide a port for the MC-30 or MC-36 because it retains the IR ports for use with the ML-L3 wireless remote and adds a GPS port for other add-on functionality.
I do really miss that IR receptor capability on my D800E
Patw28 wrote:
BUT! be advised: the D600 does NOT provide a cable port for remote shutter release or other functions. Why not?!!! (Someone tell me I'm wrong!)
The D600 does not provide a port for the MC-30 or MC-36 because it retains the IR ports for use with the ML-L3 wireless remote and adds a GPS port for other add-on functionality.
I do really miss that IR receptor capability on my D800E
Well, yes, and thank you.
Howsomever. . . . I had just purchased an rf wireless remote to catch birds at the feeder because the ir was unreliable at that range in that light.
Oct 1, 2012 14:26:46 #
[quote=GoofyNewfie]
All Nikon F interchangeble mount lenses are labeled by their focal length period...no matter what format they are designed for.
You are absolutely right. No question. I was merely referring to the fact that all F-mount lenses fit on Nikon 35mm cameras. You and I are not confused, I can understand what all the confusion is about.
mcveed wrote:
All Nikon F mount lenses are labelled by their focal length on a 35mm camera.
All Nikon F interchangeble mount lenses are labeled by their focal length period...no matter what format they are designed for.
You are absolutely right. No question. I was merely referring to the fact that all F-mount lenses fit on Nikon 35mm cameras. You and I are not confused, I can understand what all the confusion is about.
Oct 1, 2012 14:46:06 #
[quote=mcveed]
Lots to misunderstand!
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GoofyNewfie wrote:
All Nikon F interchangeble mount lenses are labeled by their focal length period...no matter what format they are designed for.
You are absolutely right. No question. I was merely referring to the fact that all F-mount lenses fit on Nikon 35mm cameras. You and I are not confused, I can understand what all the confusion is about.
mcveed wrote:
All Nikon F mount lenses are labelled by their focal length on a 35mm camera.
All Nikon F interchangeble mount lenses are labeled by their focal length period...no matter what format they are designed for.
You are absolutely right. No question. I was merely referring to the fact that all F-mount lenses fit on Nikon 35mm cameras. You and I are not confused, I can understand what all the confusion is about.
Lots to misunderstand!
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Oct 1, 2012 15:51:00 #
Bram boy
Loc: Vancouver Island B.C. Canada
Whats to be delighted . You can crop and expand do all kinds of stuff but you will never bring back the rest of the picture you lost all around the edges. Is that not the whole purpose of a wide angle. If i use a wide angle zoom its set on max wide all the time. In fact if i ever had to replace it i would be looking for a wide prime new or used.
Oct 1, 2012 16:19:39 #
Bram boy
Loc: Vancouver Island B.C. Canada
Look i dont care What happens inside tha camera all im saying is using a full frame lens on a dx makes it more zoomed it doesent change the lens but it zooms it enough so you dont get the same pic. area of picture. Put a full frame 24mm which is considered a wide angle on a fx camera ' then put it on a dx camera your resulting picture will be the equal of 36mm on the dx. To get the same picture as a 24mm on a fx on your dx you would need around a 12mm. Im giving up after this nobody gets what im saying any how .
Oct 1, 2012 16:24:17 #
Bram boy wrote:
Look i dont care What happens inside tha camera al... (show quote)
I think you got it right this time!
You previously stated:
"No your confused a 10mm dx lens on a dx camera it would be 10mm ,put same lens on fx it becomes 15mm its simple you just add around half of what ever mm the lens is or takeaway half depending on which camera it goes on. Fx to dx pluse half ."
Your posts would be easier to read if you used proper punctuation.
(Something tells me English is not your first language.
If that's the case, I apologise for any misunderstanding.)
Oct 1, 2012 16:29:13 #
Patw28 wrote:
I like the 24Mb because I often find it difficult to shoot in portrait mode and the 'extra' pixels allow me to shoot landscape and crop to portrait in RAW. (I'm usually on a monopod.)
BUT! be advised: the D600 does NOT provide a cable port for remote shutter release or other functions. Why not?!!! (Someone tell me I'm wrong!)
I like the 24Mb because I often find it difficult to shoot in portrait mode and the 'extra' pixels allow me to shoot landscape and crop to portrait in RAW. (I'm usually on a monopod.)
BUT! be advised: the D600 does NOT provide a cable port for remote shutter release or other functions. Why not?!!! (Someone tell me I'm wrong!)
First, a question. Since the area of a DX sensor is 1/2 the area of an FX sensor, why don't you get 12MP when using the D600 in DX mode? (I do agree that if you multiply out the pixels they list you get your numbers...but I don't see what is happening with the math here!)
Second I read that the D600 has the same infared input ports as my D5100: front and rear. I love that because it works wondefully and I don't have to carry a cable. I keep the infared trigger in its little case right on my camera strap so it is always with me. Plus you can trigger from up to about 20 ft. away with no wire. Much better IMHO.
The diagram in the brochure shows the above plus a MC-DC2 Remote Cord input. So I guess I'm telling you that you are wrong on that one.
Oct 1, 2012 16:30:38 #
GoofyNewfie wrote:
Lots to misunderstand!
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Yeah, I thought Jerry had a pretty simple issue here, but now I'm dizzy from all this. Hadn't planned to think this hard on a Monday. I need a beer. ;)
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