MiroFoto

What a stupid question? Can somebody who owes the Godox trigger-receiver tell me if this is feasible?
I would like to use radio trigger Godox to slave a flash behind the subject but at the same time use the camera flash to fire (Nikon 7100). So I would have a trigger in the camera hot shoe ! Can I still open camera flash?

On the pictures it looks like not possible - Godox TX-16 2.4G trig (that with a small antenna on top)- blocking full flash opening.

Thank you . Miro

rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona

I regularly use a Godox trigger and strobes. The trigger is mounted on the camera. Each strobe is mounted on a receiver, which is then mounted on a light stand. If I want to emulate a camera mounted flash (which, by the way, is probably the worst place to mount a flash), I simply put the stand behind the camera pointed at the subject.

The transmitter allows me to adjust the amount of light output from each strobe.
--Bob

yorkiebyte Loc: Scottsdale, AZ/Bandon by the Sea, OR

Your assumption is correct. And, rmalarz's solution is the best way to achieve your purpose.
Motion seconded......

E.L.. Shapiro Loc: Ottawa, Ontario Canada

In the studio, I mount the transmitter on the camera, and all the lights have their own receiver. At weddings, and other events, I also use multiple flashes. Most external triggering systems can work with a hot-shoe or bracket mounted on-camera flash- synchronizing through the hot shoe or a synchronization cord and still trigger other remote flash gear via their individual receivers.

So...I Googled the Godox X-PRO triggering system and according to the manual, it does not have a secondary hot shoe to mount an on-camera Speedlight. If you want to stick with that system, your alternative is to mount your on-camera flash on a bracket that will facilitate its orientation over the lens in both horizontal and vertical modes. All of your lights will then be trigger via the radio atop the camera and you will have all the power controls that are dedicated to your Godox gear. If you are using an on-camera flash as a fill source and you remote light as main and accent lights, the on-came light about 12 inched over the lens is its best position- with or without modifies.

The other model (see the attached images) the X-2 series, does have the secondary hot shoe to accommodate an on-camera Speedlight and although a bracket would be advantageous, for aesthetic control, this model enables direct mounting atop the transmitter. The X-2 type is probably your best bet.

Go to this link for your research as to the various features of the Godox various models and compatibility with your camera's make and system.

http://www.godox.com/EN/Products_Remote_Control_XproN_TTL_Wireless_Flash_Trigger.html

I have no personal experience with this gear but it looks very well thought out and nicely engineered with good industrial design. For my own work, I use Pocket-Wizards- I have 2 transmitters and 12 receivers- running 15 years with no issues.

MiroFoto

rmalarz - I appreciated your effort, but, with all the respect, I did not ask that. I understood your point. but I do not have a studio. Sure I can mount the flash on different stand and place it next to camera.
But a cheep-skate arrangement is just use camera flash and second flash hidden behind the subject -> so I can not use the camera flash to trigger the slave (being hidden).

Now I see, my idea is not that bright …… unless I can use the camera flash and somehow connect Gogox trigger by a wire from the Nik7100 port ...if there is any such an option.

Thank you both for the quick response. Miro

MiroFoto

E.L.. Shapiro - Thank you for all the time you try to work with me.
But again...I am not a photographer with a studio. I need something simple .
So my question would boil down as : Is there any cable Camera hot shoe to Godox hot shoe … to trigger the transmitter ?
Or is there any cable from Nikon port to Godox trigger hot shoe ? Something like port from camera to wireless trigger control receiver. (it is control the camera from outside). But in this/my case I need to control from Camera outside to Godox .

I hope I did express it clearly … Just, when I push the camera trigger it will by wire tell to Godox to fire the external trigger . >>So I can use also the camera own flash (not the on camera mounted other flash)

GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City

Your Godox transmitter will be in the way of the pop-up flash.

In regard to your other thread on this same subject, did you buy a new flash to replace the Vivitar SF-4000?
You never said.
If so, which one?
The less expensive Nikon or Nikon-compatible ones that were suggested would have been a good choice. Your camera’s pop-up flash will trigger and control the speedlight, as I said in the other thread.

A good hot shoe slave on a speedlight will probably detect the pop-up flash from your camera if the room you have is small enough.

Keep in mind, as stated somewhere before, that pop-up flash will not be very flattering.
Do you have an example of what you're trying to accomplish you can post?
Some here are very good at deconstructing a photo to figure out how they are done.

Hammer Loc: London UK

Hi,

I hope that I have understood your issue. It is possible to trigger a non Godox flash with a Godox flash trigger.

I did it once with a friend but have forgotten the detail. From memory the flash is set to TTL and then the attached trigger is itself triggered from the Godox trigger on the camera.

I’ll have a go at duplicating this tomorrow and PM you, hopefully my memory will kick In by then assisted by high levels of caffeine.

Pumble

Not really a dumb question, I thought the same when I bought some Godox gear. What you may want to consider is to buy the Godox shoe mounted flash that mounts right on your hot shoe and can act as a master or slave to another godox transceiver. They make them for varied camera lines including Nikon and have varied models . Although I don't use mine this way, it can be a master or slave.

See - https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1341878-REG/godox_tt685n_ttl_camera_speedlite.html/overview or

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1341868-REG/godox_v860ii_f_canon_kit_v860ii_for_canon_kit.html/overview

MiroFoto

Pumble - Thanks - yes, I have seen them already B4. BUT they actually do great and improve my on-camera power.... however, I would have to buy one more setup = receiver + 2nd flash . This is what I am trying to avoid.

I also think that if you want to off-set your flash,say 2-3", from camera you have to have a trigger (maybe only a cable?). I basically need that offset just say6" … better 2 Ft but with out a trigger ->> simple hotshoe to hotshoe cable would do it.

Do you have any idea about specialty photo cable manufacturer? M

MiroFoto

OK - I guess, I have found Godox Synch cable which would fit, but not sure about the connection = both ends show the same type of hot shoe.
Other cables show the bulky connector on the camera (then preventing the camera flash to fully pop out.

Anybody having the input? Miro

GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City

No, no need for a second receiver, just a second flash if it is a Godox.
The receiver/transmitter is built-into most of them.
That way is the easiest and probably the best way to accomplish what you want to do.
There is a manual version that is much less than the TTL model, $59, if you’re trying to save money.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1341884-REG/godox_tt600_camera_speedlite.html/overview
I only shoot in manual in situations like yours.

MiroFoto

Yes, it is a good one for me. But if I have it hidden = interrupted light beam it will not trigger. So I still need a radio trigger and a flash replacing the camera pop out.
Thanks
Miro

GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City

Please use the "quote reply" option.
We don't know which post you are addressing.
I have an idea that it's mine regarding the use of a good slave.
A good slave will trigger even if it's not in direct line of sight of the triggering flash if you're in a normal sized room.
There is a lot of light bounced around that will set it off.

Best bet: get two of the less expensive Godox manual flashes I mentioned above.
Use one on-camera as a more powerful light than your pop-up and it will have a radio connection built in to trigger the built-in receiver of the second one you're using as a back-light.

Still, an on-camera flash is not going to be flattering to the subject. You could at least bounce it to help soften the harsh light it puts out.
https://www.imaging-resource.com/news/2015/03/02/what-is-bounce-flash

MiroFoto

------Yes, I am afraid you are right. I just tried to avoid buying 2 new flashes. I am kind of familiar with your article advice .. but did not get into it (bouncing etc.)

OK thanks , I think I / we have beaten this dog enough. I appreciate your help . Miro