Smudgey Loc: Ohio, Calif, Now Arizona

Once again, you are on the money. Facts and truth are the same. Facts come from truth. Truth is observed and facts are derived from that observation. I watch and listen to NBC - ABC - CBS - CNN - Fox, Fact Check, and more. To read factual information and ignore it just because it is written in or on media that you don't like is simply avoiding the truth.

RAR_man Loc: stow, MA

Not analytical. Most qualifiers are missing as is context. I complained about this recently. NYT has been wrong on so much on last 4 years. I don't take much stock in what they print. I do give them the benefit of the doubt, but research what they write.

Of course, the number of cases are going up. The number of people tested is going up, so it only makes sense the more and more people will be found to be cv positive. What is rarely discussed is the FACT that the vast majority of cv positives are asymptomatic. The number the get sick is very small. The number requiring hospitalization is exceedingly small. I think i read the latter is only about 0.02% of positives. Dont pounce on me for that, but i believe that is the number i read yesterday.

The media has made the public neurotic. I see it everyday. We should take precautions. Docs seem to be split on where to go now. Some believe slowly reopening is the right thing to do while others say we shouldnt open until vaccines are available. The latter is laughable. How well does flu vaccine work now? Lots of strains. Lots of death from flu every year even among those that have been vaccinated.

Be safe!

rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA

Where does this article say there are lots of differing strains?

Deaths related to the flu are very low compared to deaths related to Covid, so bringing them down to flu levels would be a huge improvement, but effectiveness like one of the polio vaccines would be even better.

Paul Diamond Loc: Atlanta, GA, USA

Spot on. I get my news from CNNI, BBC, Bloomberg, etc. in addition to the sources you listed. There was a time that I listened to and respected Fox. And then they went often over 100% political and edited what was reported/broadcast based upon if it supported a pre-determined political position. - If you've already made up your mind, the "facts" get altered, edited or obliterated if they differ from the pre-conceived political perspective you want to propound. (To me, that is the true "deep state", bending the facts and truth to only support your political objectives.)

I want to learn from people that know more than me as specialists in their field, then 'digest' it and filter it through my life knowledge and experience. If it makes 'sense' to me, based upon what I know and the people I trust, I will agree with it. This article makes very good sense about the Covid-19 spread and potential means of transmission that are logical for the virus, the environment where it is known to have spread and the resulting infections.

This fall, sending the kids back to school is asking for trouble. Allowing people to group together at a sporting event, a concert, a church, a crowded work environment, etc. is downright foolish without requiring each person take every precaution to wear an effective mask, gloves and maybe goggles. If public bathrooms are a potential dangerous locus of Covid-19 transmission, how will people be able to be out of their homes for very long? -

At this time, we have more questions than firm answers. But, this article certainly can help everyone who takes the 12 minutes to read it and think.

CWGordon

Paul: Good thoughts

whatdat Loc: Del Valle, Tx.

Is that why they have had to retract & apologize for erroneous articles & op-ed’s?

RAR_man Loc: stow, MA

NYT rarely retracts stories. they have a horrid history in the last several years. no longer the "paper of record"

whatdat Loc: Del Valle, Tx.

👍👍👍

Madchemist Loc: Nesbit, MS

I am curious. What is your basis for calling him a fraud and a crook?

CWGordon

At least this source says it is sorry when it makes a mistake. Our Prez has admitted (partially) and said he was sorry, but once. You might remember, that was right after his comment on grabbing p***y. This incident was so repugnant the other party to this, got fired - all he did was laugh at the inappropriate remarks our poobah was making.
One of the reasons there aren’t more corrections is that they were nkt wrong in the first place. If only you understood what a reporter goes through before publication is permitted, you would not find it so easy to criticize. The reason you think they are wrong is because Breitbart or Fox have told you so. You may want to try watching more neutral news sources. There are plenty out there. But, if they don’t say what you want to hear, even though true, you will never listen or believe. You will find out one day that you have lost health coverage, social security, and even basic freedoms. It will be too late then for you to become more open to the truth.

Tex-s

You musing about public bathrooms leads to a REALLY interesting thought. Maybe 80% of farmers and ranchers, or at least their employees, live in rural settings that are as far as an hour away from bigger cities and grocery stores. I live in one of those towns. There are times, out shopping, that I require a bathroom and 'home' is an hour away. What is your proposal? Closing public restrooms would require me defecating in the street, a crime, or would require me not live where I do. The same holds for the farmers and employees I cited. Would you prefer we take chances with opening public restrooms or close them and close farms too?

No offense to you intended, but media, talking heads, and urban-centered commentary all too frequently fail to account for the needs of people in rural areas. Don't forget, too, that rural areas are where the crops, the beef, and much of the petroleum tend to be found. My personal favorite rural overlook proposal is one that aims to charge people taxes for mileage driven. In NYC, where public transit is both available and essential, citizens would pay very little, but in my area, because of work, some folks drive 50 000 miles yearly monitoring wells, ranches, or crops. Others like me average more like 20k because of shopping, daily commute, and visiting family over large distances.

rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA

Yes, public restrooms take some thought. Fifteen years ago we lived in a tiny town in central Kansas and had to drive 45 minutes to the nearest Walmart; today perhaps we would do our shopping at the tiny grocery store in town, but back then we drove every Saturday to the Walmart. I could make the trip back then, but my wife needed a restroom stop.

crushr13 Loc: Sacramento, CA

But how do we KNOW which are which in this country? That's my question. Give me facts, so I can choose, myself, how I want to act, and if I want to risk killing myself in the process. That is really what it boils down to, either way. And it does NOT matter if you are liberal or conservative. A FACT is a fact, and then EACH OF US decides what we will do with that knowledge.

rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA

Most of them are stated by scientists, each of whom have a lifetime of peer-reviewed experiments.
Some today are actually the result of peer-reviewed tests, but we have had little time to go through that.

oregonfrank Loc: Astoria, Oregon

But I would argue that in a moral sense neither you nor I nor anyone has the right to knowingly put others at risk.
Fact: as best we know at this time, Covid 19 passes from one person to another primarily through the air by small water droplets expelled from the respiratory system as we talk, breathe, cough or sneeze. Hence, social distancing, masks, and hand washing are considered responsible behaviors. Not doing so potentially puts others at risk because none of us can be assured we are virus-free, except possibly at the moment we take a test.