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May 8, 2020 09:27:31 #
May 8, 2020 09:27:48 #
alexol wrote:
Is it just me, or does anyone else find in a little bizarre that a mere sheriff seems to have the right to override a governor?
Seems to mean that we can all cherry pick, and choose
Seems to mean that we can all cherry pick, and choose
Depends on state law.
Texas has a long history of independence.
In our case, the Governor explicitly gave the counties freedom to make stricter rules than what he set, and ours {with the 7th highest number of Covid-19 cases - out of 92 - in the state} took him up on that.
May 8, 2020 09:28:31 #
Kmgw9v wrote:
It is not that simple.
Absolutely correct. Sadly it’s a mess right now, but who says you can’t go “outside”?? Those of us with any property at all can still do our gardens etc. when out in public, do ME A FAVOR where a mouth & nose cover, for gods’ sake. Be responsible....................RJM
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May 8, 2020 09:30:41 #
unlucky2 wrote:
By your logic
I want to drive 100mph on city streets MY CHOICE
You don't want to be hit by me then stay home where it is safe Your Choice
The rights of the individual do not out way the rights of the group, I would have thought you would have realized that by now. I am all for you getting the virus, just don't clog up the Hospital with your irresponsible action.
I want to drive 100mph on city streets MY CHOICE
You don't want to be hit by me then stay home where it is safe Your Choice
The rights of the individual do not out way the rights of the group, I would have thought you would have realized that by now. I am all for you getting the virus, just don't clog up the Hospital with your irresponsible action.
May 8, 2020 09:53:25 #
You always have the choice to go out and mingle - increasing the chances of getting the virus - and then unknowingly but passing it on to others.
May 8, 2020 09:54:37 #
rehess wrote:
Depends on state law.
Texas has a long history of independence.
In our case, the Governor explicitly gave the counties freedom to make stricter rules than what he set, and ours {with the 7th highest number of Covid-19 cases - out of 92 - in the state} took him up on that.
Texas has a long history of independence.
In our case, the Governor explicitly gave the counties freedom to make stricter rules than what he set, and ours {with the 7th highest number of Covid-19 cases - out of 92 - in the state} took him up on that.
More strict makes sense - allowing local law enforcement to tighten things up where needed seems perfectly reasonable, within limits. Less strict does not. Kind of like not eating fish on Thursday because you know you're going to a BBQ on Friday... I have a huge dislike of such cherry picking. Clearly a B&W fan;)
May 8, 2020 10:07:02 #
tuatara
Loc: Orig. NZ - currently SF area
Architect1776 wrote:
The Texas Salon owner was released because the Texas Supreme Court called what the activist democrat liberty hating scumbag judge did as unconstitutional.
And there is the root of it. Ideology/Mythology. My personal freedumb out weighs group well being, and anything I don't like or understand or interferes with my immediate wishes in any way has to be bad and or unconstitutional.
May 8, 2020 10:14:49 #
alexol wrote: "...a little bizarre that a mere sheriff seems to have the right to override a governor."
Being ELECTED to office, a sheriff is the highest law enforcement officer in the land!
Being ELECTED to office, a sheriff is the highest law enforcement officer in the land!
May 8, 2020 10:15:20 #
May 8, 2020 10:16:27 #
paulrph1
Loc: Washington, Utah
Longshadow wrote:
The remainder are passed to protect people from themselves...
There are really only two options in this world. Liberty and those that want to control you and take away your liberty. There maybe subgroups but in the end, even with those subgroups there are only two.
A good study on this existentialism. Yes our actions have consequences, both good or bad. And we are accountable for both. But they question remains, does the government have the right to impose itself onto you. We have societies where that is happening and only one where we have liberty. Ben Franklin said those who give up freedom for a little security deserve neither. But there is much more to it than that . But let us strive always to keep our liberty all the while preserving our rights to help others.
May 8, 2020 10:21:27 #
Any person's right to wave their arms in the air ends where the nose of another person begins.
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May 8, 2020 10:24:36 #
paulrph1
Loc: Washington, Utah
digit-up wrote:
Absolutely correct. Sadly it’s a mess right now, but who says you can’t go “outside”?? Those of us with any property at all can still do our gardens etc. when out in public, do ME A FAVOR where a mouth & nose cover, for gods’ sake. Be responsible....................RJM
I agree however blanket passage of laws is not a solution. There is always an exception and someone who it will affect negatively. At a funeral the other day, I had a relative who said she could not wear a mask for health reasons. It could kill her and after hearing her plea she was correct. I said well you should get mask then that has a hose on it with a tank on the other end. Problem is she could not afford it. Other solutions? Yes there are those but not in the town where she lived.
May 8, 2020 10:28:46 #
paulrph1 wrote: "There are really only two options in this world..."
Not "options", Paul, "realities"! Usually only one is a choice... the other results from coercion!
I believe that in a free and just society people exercise their rights with choices that do not infringe on the rights of others.
Not "options", Paul, "realities"! Usually only one is a choice... the other results from coercion!
I believe that in a free and just society people exercise their rights with choices that do not infringe on the rights of others.
May 8, 2020 10:34:14 #
1Feathercrest
Loc: NEPA
rehess wrote:
Not if you move toward me.
And the mask inside is to protect me.
I live in a ruby red state. But even our Governor, deputy to Mike Pence, publicly apologized when he forgot his mask.
And the mask inside is to protect me.
I live in a ruby red state. But even our Governor, deputy to Mike Pence, publicly apologized when he forgot his mask.
The paper/cloth mask does NOT protect YOU. It is to protect the other guy from YOUR cough, sneeze or breathing on them. Vapor droplet carrier of virus from YOU.
May 8, 2020 10:36:11 #
StanMac
Loc: Tennessee
Old Coot wrote:
You don,t want to catch this virus, then don,t go ... (show quote)
If your choices cause harm or could potentially cause harm to others, then your “choice” becomes null and void. Why do you think we have speed limits?
Common courtesy and decency, respect for others, social responsibility, all seem to be sorely lacking in America these days.
Stan
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