Upgrade Question
May 4, 2020 12:38:11 #
Elmo55 wrote:
Thanks to all that responded. Talked herself out of FF and going for an 80D with a good telephoto for wildlife.
Was just going to respond that today’s APS-C cameras are more than enough for large prints. I recently did a 30 X 45 print with my APS-C camera and it was tack sharp. She’ll be very happy if she invests in a good telephoto lens.
May 4, 2020 13:10:06 #
She made a very wise choice. Stay with Canon because she is familiar with that brand and probably has lens that will work with the 80D.
May 4, 2020 13:42:03 #
bweber wrote:
Why would she go to a full frame camera and then use a lens that will not cover the entire sensor. She would be better off upgrading to a high quality crop sensor like a 90D.
Because she wants to move to a FF camera. So, I'm responding to what she wants not necessarily what I would do under similar circumstances. And the EF-S lenses provide surprisingly good images in the cropped mode on the RF camera body.
May 4, 2020 14:11:53 #
Elmo55 wrote:
Thanks to all that responded. Talked herself out of FF and going for an 80D with a good telephoto for wildlife.
I agree this is a good way to go. I have an 80D and love it. 1/3 more pixels than her T3i and many updates. DPAF in live view will help for wildlife.
For wildlife, long lenses are called for. I don't know what she has, so it is hard to advise. She may want to check out a used Tamron 150-600 G2 instead of a new body.
May 4, 2020 14:23:21 #
May 4, 2020 14:24:47 #
coyotecall
Loc: New Mexico
Elmo55 wrote:
My niece is an accomplished and avid photographer ... (show quote)
Given that a FF will require appropriate lens shifts and thus blow the budget, I concur with the idea of the 80D. I shot with that one, and it's older bro. (the 70D) for years, made BIG blow ups, especially on metal, (20x24, 24x30) and got great landscape outcomes. The 80D is a winner!
May 4, 2020 14:52:26 #
lwp99
Loc: East Valley of Phoenix, AZ
How about a 7D MkII which will work with her EF-S lens collection. I've had one for many years, before hearing about the 5D-IV on sale. The nice thing about the 7Dii is the 10 frames per second when shooting birds. A used version is easily in the $1K budget range.
May 4, 2020 15:15:37 #
rcarol wrote:
Because she wants to move to a FF camera. So, I'm responding to what she wants not necessarily what I would do under similar circumstances. And the EF-S lenses provide surprisingly good images in the cropped mode on the RF camera body.
But she wants FF because she believes that will allow her to make larger prints. That ain't necessarily so. What she wants is not a FF. She wants to make larger prints. Remember she only has $1,000 to work with and no FF lenses. She does landscape, astro and wildlife. Given a $1,000 budget, better lenses that can later be used on a FF is a reasonable suggestion over a FF body to achieve images with detail that will stand up on large prints.
May 4, 2020 15:29:10 #
coyotecall
Loc: New Mexico
dsmeltz wrote:
But she wants FF because she believes that will allow her to make larger prints. That ain't necessarily so. What she wants is not a FF. She wants to make larger prints. Remember she only has $1,000 to work with and no FF lenses. She does landscape, astro and wildlife. Given a $1,000 budget, better lenses that can later be used on a FF is a reasonable suggestion over a FF body to achieve images with detail that will stand up on large prints.
Yeah, I agree. None of the big prints I've done have been shot with a FF. All I experienced when I tried out a FF was a heavier camera.(unless you go with a Sony A7 of course.....but then we're in a different ball game with lenses etc.)
May 4, 2020 17:56:42 #
Elmo55 wrote:
My niece is an accomplished and avid photographer ... (show quote)
Wildlife is much more doable with APSC crop frame ! FF requires much bigger/heavier/longer/more expensive lenses !! I would suggest a Sony 6400 with Sigma MC11 adapter for using Canon lenses.
The Canon 1DS mark IV is a much better camera than the III.
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May 4, 2020 18:45:23 #
May 4, 2020 18:54:21 #
bleirer wrote:
She could get a brand new Canom EOS RP body at BH for $1000 or with the new 24-105 lens (non L) for $1300. It is full frame and mirrorless. It uses RF lenses or with the adaptor it will use any canon full frame EF lenses or her current crop lenses (crop lenses switch to lower megapixel crop mode).
EF-s lens on the RP switch automatically if Canon lens is mounted. If third party, menu action is req.
May 4, 2020 19:40:58 #
In addition to Adorama & KEH, I also often go to MPB.com or ProCam out of Detroit/Chicago region
May 4, 2020 22:24:58 #
DaveyDitzer
Loc: Western PA
Silverrails wrote:
I myself am a Advanced Beginner of 3+ years, I am ... (show quote)
I recommend that before making a jump to FF from crop, a person should rent a FF body and preferred lens and see if they can see the difference in the type of photography they prefer. Even better would be to shoot both side by side for a week and compared enlargements of the size they want.
May 5, 2020 10:05:30 #
DaveyDitzer wrote:
I recommend that before making a jump to FF from crop, a person should rent a FF body and preferred lens and see if they can see the difference in the type of photography they prefer. Even better would be to shoot both side by side for a week and compared enlargements of the size they want.
Please do not rent, if you are on a budget. The rental takes a huge bite out of your budget. You can do better by purchasing from B&H or Adorama. Both have very good return policies with no restocking fee. Pros rent for specific situations. For instance they know they need more bodies or a special lens for a job. Pros can write it off as a business expense. To rent a Canon 6D and a lens for a week will run you at least $100 or 10% of the $1,000 budget. Buying from B&H or Adorama means you put up the cost, but you have a full month to return with a full refund (unless you damage it of course)
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