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Apr 28, 2020 15:11:26   #
aHab
 
My wife recently got a good deal buying direct from HP's website. They were running a sale on all of their laptops. Their website also gives you the ability to do some customizing, e.g., adding additional capacity to your hard drive or adding addition RAM. It took a couple of weeks to get the computer, but worth the wait.

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Apr 28, 2020 15:13:48   #
captain ugly
 
Great advise.

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Apr 28, 2020 16:51:06   #
sabfish
 
Inasmuch as you keep most of your photos and shoot a lot, but want something you can travel with, I would suggest you consider one of the Dell Gaming Computers such as the G5. Most of these models have an SSD Boot drive (250 GB-500 GB) as well as a 1 T Hard Drive. The 1T hard drive will give you a lot of space for storing all those photos. Any Mac with a hard drive that large will cost a fortune.

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Apr 28, 2020 17:24:10   #
hookedupin2005 Loc: Northwestern New Mexico
 
Gasman57 wrote:
Cameta Camera is currently closed. Do not deal with Abe's of Maine. Read the reviews here. Never heard of Used Photo Pro. Maybe another hogger can comment on them.


IT's the used department of Roberts Camera in Indianapolis....honest and reliable.

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Apr 28, 2020 17:53:51   #
cochese
 
You can get an ASUS Zenbook 14 for half that. Comes with 16 gb memory, 512 gb ssd and 1 tb hdd. That leaves some money towards your back up system.

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Apr 28, 2020 17:54:32   #
cochese
 
Don't buy mac. Twice the price for half the power. Stick with windows.

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Apr 28, 2020 19:51:49   #
cahale Loc: San Angelo, TX
 
Beachhawk wrote:
I want to buy a new laptop which I can devote entirely to photo sorting, grading, editing (with Lightroom and Photoshop), storing and uploading for printing and sharing. In addition to photo use, I will also take this laptop on vacations and other trips and use the Wi-Fi capability for email and occasional web browsing. I tend to shoot a lot of photos and I rarely discard a shot unless it is clearly out of focus, poorly exposed, or has some other glaring problem making it unusable. I tend to be a packrat in that regard. This will be a totally new system, purpose built from the ground up. What I have now is a total mess of stuff on memory cards, memory sticks, hard drives, DVDs, and CDs. I want an organized system with everything in one place with an offsite backup either in the cloud or on a good quality portable drive.

I want to keep costs under $2500 if possible and I am more familiar with the Windows environment than the IOS system, though I do have both an iPhone and iPad, so I'm not ruling out Apple. I would really like to have your suggestions about both hardware and software.

Thanks!
I want to buy a new laptop which I can devote enti... (show quote)


If you use it ENTIRELY for photo purposes, you can't use it for internet or email. Given that, get one with a lighted keyboard. You will find that very handy it you find a need to use it in the dark. Also, if you are a numbers person, get one with a 10-key pad for that. Get the largest you can comfortably pack for carrying with you on trips. I always go with the 17". As to brand and model, the faster the processor and larger the memory you can afford will be more important than what is written on the front of the case.

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Apr 28, 2020 21:24:19   #
photoman022 Loc: Manchester CT USA
 
I've bought two laptops for photo processing. Each time I went to my local computer store (Kaplan Computers, Manchester CT). The people are extremely knowledgeable; they ask pertinent questions; they recommend a number of laptops that will meet my needs. I like this store because all of the salespeople work on salary, not on commission so they have no reason to try to up-sell me. I always recommend going to a similar establishment.

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Apr 28, 2020 22:11:00   #
cutefix
 
The OP prefers a windows operating system ,how many posters here are still insisting on their personal choice which is an IOS ......?

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Apr 28, 2020 22:16:14   #
Judy795
 
I bought a MSI 15 1/2 laptop from Best Buy 18 months ago. A gaming laptop. I use it when I travel with Lightroom and Topaz 2 and lots of Topaz AI plug-ins. It works great. It was about $1600. You never see people talking about these but Dell and HP were getting poor reviews and this one had a lot more positive reviews.

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Apr 28, 2020 22:25:49   #
ZPhoto Loc: Lancaster, PA
 
Gene51 wrote:
I tend to go the custom build route. Very few of the standard brands offer much in this area. With your budget, after you get done adding external drives, you won't be able to afford a Mac anything, unless you get a low end, entry level system. I have similar needs and habits (can't ever seem to find the delete key), though I need to support 2 external displays at my home office.

I am about to pull the trigger on this system for myself:

16.1" display
i7-9750H 6 core 12 thread
NVidia RTX2060 with 6 gb Vram
32 gb ram (user upgradeable to 64 gb)
1 TB m.2 PCIe NVMe SSD (boot drive)
1 TB m.2 PCIe NVMe SSD (second drive)
2 TB 2.5" SATA III SSD

Total price is $2317

A similarly configured 16" Macbook Pro would cost $4199. It would have 4 TB of storage, like the Windows machine, but it would be entirely on one drive, which is less desirable. For almost half the cost you get the same level of performance and storage, and you can stay within your budget.

Another way to look at this is what could you put together for the cost of this 16" Macbook Pro ($4200)

17.3" display 4K
i9-9750H 8 core 16 thread
NVidia RTX2070 with 8 gb Vram
32 gb ram (user upgradeable to 64 gb)
1 TB m.2 PCIe NVMe SSD (boot drive)
1 TB m.2 PCIe NVMe SSD (second drive)
4 TB 2.5" SATA III SSD (in Bay 1)
4 TB 2.5" SATA III SSD (in Bay 2)

Total price $4058. So, for the price of the Macbook Pro described above you can get a system with an 8 core, 16 thread CPU, a slightly larger display, and a whopping 10 TB of internal SSD storage. There is no economic or performance reason that could be used to justify an Apple purchase. But there are the emotional, status, aesthetic and other non-technical reasons that are perfectly valid for Mac fans, and are totally meaningless to people who are trying to get the most bang for their buck. I am not a fan of using external drives for everything. It makes the computer less portable.

Money is hard enough to come by these days - you can't go wrong with the Windows custom built system.

https://xoticpc.com/

I've been sending people to this custom integrator since 2012, and have had no complaints. My son spent a few $$$ on an engineering-class workstation to do 3D structural analysis and design, and to run his CNC routers for his design/fabrication business a couple of years ago and it is still doing fine - or was until the pandemic basically stopped his business in its tracks.
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I’ve had 4 windows based computers (2 laptops, 2 desktops)....all now in a trash heap somewhere. Slowed by antivirus software, viruses, malware, hardware failures, etc.
My 10 yr old MacBook Pro still doing its thing and outperformed all 4 predecessors.
I was apprehensive when I made the switch.....will never consider going back.

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Apr 28, 2020 22:28:16   #
ZPhoto Loc: Lancaster, PA
 
cutefix wrote:
The OP prefers a windows operating system ,how many posters here are still insisting on their personal choice which is an IOS ......?


OP clearly stated they did NOT rule out Mac. Wisely....

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Apr 28, 2020 22:50:11   #
OleMe Loc: Montgomery Co., MD
 
Consider Lenovo X-1. Excellent computers used by road warriors. On sale now on Lenovo.comhttps://www.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpad-x/X1-Extreme-Gen-2/p/22TP2TXX1E2

I'm on my second Thinkpad.

Whatever you get, make sure it gas NVMe solid state drives for speed.

As you note, youll need exteral storage.

/roger

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Apr 28, 2020 23:16:56   #
11bravo
 
I fully understand what the OP is asking. I'd just ask him to make sure he will actually do PP while traveling. Personally, I find I'm just too d*mn tired after a full day of hiking, sightseeing, etc. to do any real PP. All I do is TeraCopy photos from card reader (separate) to internal HDD and then to an external HDD while recharging camera batteries. The last thing I want to do while on vacation in a different environment is to be sitting inside in front of a computer. My refurbed Lenovo T430 is a tank and built for road warriors. After ruining my first Toshiba laptop with a cup of soup on the keyboard (and I'm the one always saying don't eat or drink around a laptop), decided on robust.

I'd recommend getting a laptop with an internal bay for an HDD in a cradle, or a 2nd SSD capability. I travel for months at a time, and an SSD insufficient for storage as I shoot a lot (advantage/disadvantage of digital vs film). Also get a couple of external 2.5" usb 3.0 HDD's for backups. I like HGST's, but no longer available. I also use 2TB Toshiba's but no larger as I've had bad luck with higher capacity 2.5" Toshiba drives. Before using any HDD, provision it. Check other posts from me on how I do.

Also recommend Hard Disk Sentinel Professional and StableBit Scanner software. Both paid, but do offer packages. Have both on all my computers. Keep track of temperature and health of drives, both HDD and SSD. Some duplication of function, but I like Sentinel for its temperature monitoring (with audible alerts), and Scanner for its periodic health scans. Have used both for a decade - well maintained and authors respond promptly to questions/problems.

https://www.hdsentinel.com/index.php
https://stablebit.com/Scanner

Provisioning
https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/tpr?p=11135296&t=641793

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Apr 28, 2020 23:23:41   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
cochese wrote:
Don't buy mac. Twice the price for half the power. Stick with windows.


Is that why IBM bought nearly a quarter million Apple devices over the last few years?

https://www.jamf.com/resources/press-releases/ibm-announces-research-showing-mac-enables-greater-productivity-and-employee-satisfaction-at-ibm/

You can run Windows on Macs... I have since 2000. Since 2008, it has worked as well as a hardware PC. But run MacOS on Windows? No.

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