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Apr 26, 2020 11:51:27   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
Bill 45 wrote:
I have lost friendship because of Moron the First. I tell people come Nov. 3 he out and into the trash can of history. Talking is over just waiting for Nov.3.


I find the idea of Trump as a lame duck rather frightening.

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Apr 26, 2020 11:53:05   #
drainbamage
 
Kraken wrote:
So it's perfectly OK for you and your trump cult buddies to post their far right propaganda sites and my

mostly center bias sites are not OK. I admit I post a few from left leaning sites but not very many as of

late. Left bias sites might embellish their topics but the facts are basically true.

That article is more right than left or even center. That's what is surprising about you posting it. People who end long-term friendships and relationships because of their hatred of Trump (TDS) lose far more than those they leave behind.

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Apr 26, 2020 12:13:20   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
Kraken wrote:
So it's perfectly OK for you and your trump cult buddies to post their far right propaganda sites and my

mostly center bias sites are not OK. I admit I post a few from left leaning sites but not very many as of

late. Left bias sites might embellish their topics but the facts are basically true.


Just as we believe that the right leaning sites promote the truth, I can't control what others post but I do take responsibility for what I post and I would challenge you to find me posting anything that compares in sensationalism as what you post here.

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Apr 26, 2020 12:16:13   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
thom w wrote:
I find the idea of Trump as a lame duck rather frightening.


I find the idea of Trump as a lame duck as rather absurd considering the brainless idiot that your party seems to have chosen to run against him. Obama as a lame duck did great damage to the constitution and the restraints place on the executive branch when he changed the rules regarding the dissemination of classified materials, I find it amusing that you did not take issue with that. What comes around goes around my friend.

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Apr 26, 2020 12:21:41   #
BboH Loc: s of 2/21, Ellicott City, MD
 
thom w wrote:
Hello!
Sanders is no longer running and Biden is no flaming liberal. Vote for who you think should be president, but be honest as to your motives. If you really didn’t know that Bernie had dropped out, maybe you should consider sitting this one out.


"Hello..." Sanders may not be on the ballot but he is behind and pushing his agenda. At this moment, I believe that Biden is not much more than a figure head.

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Apr 26, 2020 12:47:55   #
mwalsh Loc: Houston
 
LoL

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Apr 27, 2020 00:35:27   #
drainbamage
 
BboH wrote:
"Hello..." Sanders may not be on the ballot but he is behind and pushing his agenda. At this moment, I believe that Biden is not much more than a figure head.

You're absolutely correct about Sanders and Biden (although I like the word "puppet" better for Biden.....)

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Apr 27, 2020 01:47:28   #
usnret Loc: Woodhull Il
 
Kraken wrote:
TheHill.com
Another friendship lost over Trump

Over the course of the past three years, I’ve had some acquaintanceships and casual friendships end because of my support of President Trump, never once by my choice.

All of these were lost well before the president's daily briefings and other actions regarding the COVID-19 crisis. These briefings and his response to the virus, I’ve discovered, have only amplified the anger within those who cannot stand the president.

One casual friendship abruptly ended last year because I would not acknowledge that Trump is a climate change denier who advances the insidious goal of killing off humanity. The person making that charge is an accomplished executive.

When I politely asked over the phone if this person truly believes Trump’s ultimate “goal” is to kill off the world — including his children, grandchildren and future Trump generations — my friend screamed at me and then hung up, forever.

Many who dare to even respectfully defend this president have become familiar with such rage-induced responses.

A number of Trump supporters, from every walk of life, sadly have come to accept being ostracized by colleagues, friends, neighbors and acquaintances who literally (and sometimes irrationally) hate the president. It has become a painful reality.

While this isn't the first time a president has inspired such division or outright hatred in relatively modern times — the animosities involving former Presidents Kennedy, Lyndon Johnson and Nixon in the 1960s and 1970s come to mind — those involving Trump seem deeper, more bitter and seemingly permanent. And not just because they are current.

I knew one person whose 35-year friendship ended when her friend learned that she voted for Donald Trump. Again, the Trump voter tolerated screaming over the phone and was told, “You are now dead to me.” The fact that the woman who voted for Trump was the godmother of the other woman’s son mattered not at all. Worse than losing that lifelong friendship was the added pain of being told that her godson now also wants nothing to do with her.

I had sympathy for this woman but questioned how strong the friendship truly could have been if, after more than 30 years, it could end quickly in such a petty, spiteful way. Certainly, I thought to myself, my long-term friendships are much deeper; they’re unbreakable.

That mistaken belief was just shattered. A close friendship of 30 years became one more victim of the “cancel culture” — this time, via text.

Unless asked, I tend not to talk politics with family or friends. I have lived it, one way or the other, for the past few decades. To be honest, I’d much rather talk about entertainment, travel, books or sports, especially because of the polarizing, anti-Trump times we live in.

As soon as Trump was elected, my friend of three decades began to complain about him. I ignored his regular rants and kept to my “safe” subjects. A few months in, he dialed up the anger and conspiracy theories. Still, I refused to take the bait. I’d talk about memories from work or ask about his family.

But his anger soon turned to rage. I would get screeds by text saying that Trump was going to install landmines across the U.S.-Mexico border, that he was going to “authorize trigger-happy Trump vigilantes” to shoot anyone who made it through the minefield and that Trump was going to suspend the Constitution to remain president for life.

All this from a once close friend who is an incredibly good, decent person, a family man with a wife and children, someone considered to be part of the bedrock of his community.

When the news broke a couple of months ago that President Trump was exploring how best to remove Obama administration holdovers and “Never Trumpers” from his own administration — as is his right — my friend pounced again, declaring, “This proves he is a dictator.”

I tried to explain that this is standard operating procedure for any president, from either party. Former President Obama did the same things, and because of Trump’s flawed and incompetent transition process, he is way behind schedule to do something that should have been handled during the first week of his administration. To this, my friend replied that he no longer can tolerate my defense of this “dictator” and that continuing our friendship is impossible.

No doubt some people who openly profess their hatred of Trump will applaud and encourage the end of friendships, relationships and perhaps even marriages if anyone dares to defend the president and his policies. They should not.

The #Resistance against Trump and his supporters is morphing into outright anarchy, sometimes triggering violence. These are dangerous places, full of slippery slopes, copycat minds and lines that never should be crossed — again, especially in the midst of the public health emergency. The best way for someone who doesn’t like Trump to exercise control is to vote against him in November.

With regard to colleagues, friends, neighbors and relatives who might support the president, instead of hating them and ending relationships, try celebrating the fact that in America we are still allowed to believe, worship and vote as we please. Totalitarian groupthink victory for either side will be the end of us all.

Douglas MacKinnon, a political and communications consultant, was a writer in the White House for Presidents Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush, and former special assistant for policy and communications at the Pentagon during the last three years of the Bush administration.

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/484831-another-friendship-lost-over-trump
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Good grief Mr Kracken, what is it exactly that you hope to accomplish with your left leaning posts? Do you actually think anyone will ever have a TADA moment and suddenly see things your way? With all of your great wisdom and finesse in the in the political arena I would think that by now you would have at least convinced a few of us to see things from your point of view. I get it that what you really need is this site to vent a variety of your own life's frustrations. Were you to tone things down a bit and give up the leftist posts you would stand a much better chance of achieving that goal.

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Apr 27, 2020 02:34:17   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
usnret wrote:
Good grief Mr Kracken, what is it exactly that you hope to accomplish with your left leaning posts? Do you actually think anyone will ever have a TADA moment and suddenly see things your way? With all of your great wisdom and finesse in the in the political arena I would think that by now you would have at least convinced a few of us to see things from your point of view. I get it that what you really need is this site to vent a variety of your own life's frustrations. Were you to tone things down a bit and give up the leftist posts you would stand a much better chance of achieving that goal.
Good grief Mr Kracken, what is it exactly that you... (show quote)


The far right cult kool-aid drinkers are way beyond help, my goal is to keep any open minded American

from drinking the kool-aid and sliding into trump's quicksand trap.

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Apr 27, 2020 06:31:07   #
dpullum Loc: Tampa Florida
 
FOX News is the Bible for true believers in the new god, Trump.

That Trump Bible has the binding on the far right; the normal Bible has the binding on the left.

Open the Trump Bible and you will find things are rather backward.

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Apr 27, 2020 06:47:58   #
Huey Driver Loc: Texas
 
thom w wrote:
Hello!
Sanders is no longer running and Biden is no flaming liberal. Vote for who you think should be president, but be honest as to your motives. If you really didn’t know that Bernie had dropped out, maybe you should consider sitting this one out.


This election will be like the last one and most previous ones. I'll be voting against who I don't want not for whom I do want. Pretty pathetic when that's the choice we have to make because we don't have better candidates. Then when I think about it, why would anybody want that job in the first place? It's a no win situation.

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Apr 27, 2020 06:53:38   #
Rose42
 
Kraken wrote:
The far right cult kool-aid drinkers are way beyond help, my goal is to keep any open minded American

from drinking the kool-aid and sliding into trump's quicksand trap.


Well there’s one person that believes you - you.

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Apr 27, 2020 07:27:24   #
BboH Loc: s of 2/21, Ellicott City, MD
 
[quote=Huey Driver]This election will be like the last one and most previous ones. I'll be voting against who I don't want not for whom I do want. Pretty pathetic when that's the choice we have to make because we don't have better candidates.

Hello - I'm with you

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Apr 27, 2020 07:47:20   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
Rose42 wrote:
Well there’s one person that believes you - you.


I don’t think he does.

He’s just a dirt pushing troll.

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Apr 27, 2020 09:30:12   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
dpullum wrote:
FOX News is the Bible for true believers in the new god, Trump.

That Trump Bible has the binding on the far right; the normal Bible has the binding on the left.

Open the Trump Bible and you will find things are rather backward.


You are my friend drink far too much kool-aid but I have to say you are not alone.

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