Do "Pro's" near you do this?
Nov 7, 2011 19:47:27 #
Ouch! Taking photos with sunlight can make you squint. I read this post before heading to work and couldn't stop thinking about how effective that photo would have been if it truely had shown the warmth of the sun on their faces without blowing out the detail. So leaving work, the big bright sun was in full force and I played with the shutter and aperture settings to see if there is some means of control. Not good subject matter, but lets turn this into a learning experience. Can some of you suggest some tehniques to bring the effect of sunlight into your photos?
Nov 7, 2011 20:06:06 #
Hello, Frank Bruce. they're talking about photos back up on page 1 or 2. Just go to the bottom or top of this page and click on page one, and then scroll down.
frank bruce wrote:
i am getting all this conversation, but i haven't seen the photo. would someone attach 1 so i could c 2 ? frank bruce
mykelmas wrote:
If they do that and try to get their photos published, their not professional photographers
Nov 7, 2011 20:11:53 #
Nov 7, 2011 20:18:35 #
Nikonian72 wrote:
quote=SDav612 This is one, but there is another ... (show quote)
I personally think you, Nikonian, could take pictures blindfolded and they would still be phenomenal! I also couldn't picture anyone calling themselves a pro and putting forth that pic in the example but then again...different strokes....I'm not qualified to judge.
Nov 7, 2011 21:22:01 #
whats the focus here, the sun or the people?
SDav612 wrote:
This is one, but there is another photographer that is much, much worse.
SDav612 wrote:
There are a couple of "pro" photographers in my area that like to take photos of people with the sun in the photo, usually near their head. The sun blows out the shot and sometimes you can't even see their face. I think it looks hideous, but wanted opinions from others. If you don't understand what I am talking about, maybe I can reproduce and post.
This is one, but there is another photographer that is much, much worse.
Nov 7, 2011 21:23:00 #
hello gizzy whicker, hope yer evening is a pleasant 1
gizzy.whicker wrote:
Hello, Frank Bruce. they're talking about photos back up on page 1 or 2. Just go to the bottom or top of this page and click on page one, and then scroll down.
frank bruce wrote:
i am getting all this conversation, but i haven't seen the photo. would someone attach 1 so i could c 2 ? frank bruce
mykelmas wrote:
If they do that and try to get their photos published, their not professional photographers
Nov 7, 2011 22:39:57 #
There is a photographer in my neck of the woods that does this continually...weddings, engagemets, seniors....and she is BUSY!! I don't get it myself. I think she even does some of it in post production. I agree, this looks totally blown out and just isn't good photography. But....some people seem to like it, because she posts new clients daily and charges an arm and a leg for her services. It is all a matter of taste, I guess. Not may taste, though.
SDav612 wrote:
This is one, but there is another photographer that is much, much worse.
SDav612 wrote:
There are a couple of "pro" photographers in my area that like to take photos of people with the sun in the photo, usually near their head. The sun blows out the shot and sometimes you can't even see their face. I think it looks hideous, but wanted opinions from others. If you don't understand what I am talking about, maybe I can reproduce and post.
This is one, but there is another photographer that is much, much worse.
Nov 7, 2011 23:21:29 #
. this could be a question for MR. OBVIOUS.looks like you were tryin to get that soft look. can u c what needs to happen for this to b a successful shot? what do u think?
SDav612 wrote:
This is one, but there is another photographer that is much, much worse.
SDav612 wrote:
There are a couple of "pro" photographers in my area that like to take photos of people with the sun in the photo, usually near their head. The sun blows out the shot and sometimes you can't even see their face. I think it looks hideous, but wanted opinions from others. If you don't understand what I am talking about, maybe I can reproduce and post.
This is one, but there is another photographer that is much, much worse.
Nov 7, 2011 23:33:06 #
wilsondl2 wrote:
Ive been doing the same pose of a girl leaning against a tree with a fuzzy background for 40 years and 90% of the customers buy that shot. ..... If this was all they got it would be a differant story. ..... Amatures take what THEY want and like. - Dave
If you are shooting 100 senior portraits... they might all love the 'girl leaning against a tree with a fuzzy background' and I agree, that 90% (at least) will purchase THAT, as ONE of their options, and 5 to 10% *might* actually use THAT shot for their year book photo... but the other's (at least for/with me) want something different for the year book. The photo's the parents' send to family are often the 'old school style' - but the one the kid puts in the yearbook is often indicative of their choice & preference. If you look through the average school year book... you'll see some that are the same, but many that are very different, and often you can group which were done by which photographer.
As for that generic 'girl' (leaning against the tree)... if you are well established and lucky (or in a really small town - thus doing all the school year book photos, for all grades) you get her for 'sweet 16' shots, maybe Junior year, and Senior pictures.
If you are a 'rock' (well established) in the community... without a whole lot of competition, you'll get to shot her wedding (if you do that)... and you'll get some future family portraits, as her kids grow. Supplying happiness and memories to THAT CUSTOMER is all that matters, if that is your type of photography business, and you're building a client base from there.
When it comes to portraits, women do 90% of the purchasing (and setup the bookings). And, it's that girls' mother that will usually select the photographer based on good past experience(s). The dad's merely pay the bills, attempting to keep 'his girls' happy. So, it's all a win-win-win, if you are that type of professional photographer, you have 'boiler plate' stuff 'that sells' (and works) 90% of the time... just change the person, clothing, and lighting... and it's all good, sales wise. And, next year's 'sweet 16' - you have a whole new set of kids & parents to try to build from. I know many pro's that love this grind... it's their bread & butter, and produces about 75-95% of their yearly revenues. I'm glad for them... have no desire to compete with them in those areas... but clearly, those are not the only type or variety of professional photographer.
And, personally, (not that my opinion matters much to anyone here) I didn't care for the 'blown out' face of the guy in that photo, since it was intended to be a 'couple' photograph.
I LOVE seeing hair blown out a touch... and sometimes enjoy the 'halo' effect... and like messing with shadows and different back grounds... but washing out faces, blowing out features of the subject, aren't things I (personally) would show to or share with clients. However, my specialty isn't portraits... it's sports action & critters, and nature... so, my opinion is more personal than professional on that shot. As a photographer, I think a slight change of angle, use of a ND filter, would have worked MUCH BETTER. All that matters is what the people in the photo & their family thinks... but, me personally, I wouldn't have shared it with them IF I'd have ever shot it to begin with... but I haven't seen the balance of the set. Some of the other shots might be classic, perfect, and really impressive. IMHO, this one isn't.
Nov 7, 2011 23:35:42 #
kimberliswenson wrote:
It is all a matter of taste, I guess. Not may taste, though.
I agree... not mine either.
Nov 7, 2011 23:39:25 #
SDav612 wrote:
This is one, but there is another photographer that is much, much worse.
SDav612 wrote:
There are a couple of "pro" photographers in my area that like to take photos of people with the sun in the photo, usually near their head. The sun blows out the shot and sometimes you can't even see their face. I think it looks hideous, but wanted opinions from others. If you don't understand what I am talking about, maybe I can reproduce and post.
This is one, but there is another photographer that is much, much worse.
Yes, I've seen wedding shots like that too. I don't know what they're trying to achieve but whatever it is, it's not working for me. I've also seen "pros" get a bunch of lens flair rings in the photo which is apparently intentional. Art is in the eye of the beholder but it looks like Stevie Wonder took the shots to me!
Nov 8, 2011 00:29:52 #
Personally, I love the challenge of shooting INTO the sun, and NOT getting 'lens flares' or artifacts. I don't have any people shots handy that demonstrate that, but here is a 'sun rays' shot (directly into the sun - without the flares or garbage (my goal was the rays... for some inspirational cards & calendars)): http://mercer.smugmug.com/NaturePhotography/Sky-sunset-sundowns-Lightning/Sun-Rays/16024004_gk7K5H/1201231931_MZCr9
Nov 8, 2011 09:55:34 #
foghornleg90 wrote:
Personally, I love the challenge of shooting INTO the sun, and NOT getting 'lens flares' or artifacts. I don't have any people shots handy that demonstrate that, but here is a 'sun rays' shot (directly into the sun - without the flares or garbage (my goal was the rays... for some inspirational cards & calendars)): http://mercer.smugmug.com/NaturePhotography/Sky-sunset-sundowns-Lightning/Sun-Rays/16024004_gk7K5H/1201231931_MZCr9
Terry,
that is a exquisite photo, something that moves the soul of any true artist. Thank you for starting my day off with a beautiful vision.
George
Nov 8, 2011 09:58:04 #
foghornleg90 wrote:
Personally, I love the challenge of shooting INTO the sun, and NOT getting 'lens flares' or artifacts. I don't have any people shots handy that demonstrate that, but here is a 'sun rays' shot (directly into the sun - without the flares or garbage (my goal was the rays... for some inspirational cards & calendars)): http://mercer.smugmug.com/NaturePhotography/Sky-sunset-sundowns-Lightning/Sun-Rays/16024004_gk7K5H/1201231931_MZCr9
Those are absolutely beautiful! In nature, the sun rays work. On faces, they don't.
Nov 8, 2011 12:02:00 #
George H wrote:
that is a exquisite photo, something that moves the soul of any true artist. Thank you for starting my day off with a beautiful vision. George
Thank you... other than cropping, angle adjustment, and a touch of sharpening... those are 'as shot' - no photoshop or 'creation' by me (after the clicks). I like playing with the sun & light... and figuring out HOW to shoot the 'impossible' (and unique). Anyhow... glad some of y'all enjoy the shots.
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