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Apr 19, 2020 12:28:09   #
BooIsMyCat Loc: Somewhere
 
Cykdelic wrote:
Again.....at least try to have some accurate data!
“ The North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) is signed into law by President Bill Clinton. Clinton said he hoped the agreement would encourage other nations to work toward a broader world-trade pact.”


OH, you're so wise and knowledgeable...

NAFTA was the brainchild of Reagan and crafted under Bush. It was ratified under Clinton. Supporters of NAFTA included 132 Republicans and 102 Democrats. Sounds like it was BOTH parties supporting this bill.

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Apr 19, 2020 12:28:54   #
EyeSawYou
 
BooIsMyCat wrote:
Unreal!

NAFTA was a Republican idea (actually it was more than just an idea) - the FACTS are in front of you yet, you still blame Clinton for it!!?? That's totally, utterly crazy! Was he supposed to say, "This is a Republican idea so I'm not going to sign it"?

Following diplomatic negotiations dating back to 1990, the leaders of the three nations signed the agreement in their respective capitals on December 17, 1992. The signed agreement then needed to be ratified by each nation's legislative or parliamentary branch. Clinton RATIFIED the bill!

You then go on to say that NAFTA was supported by Democrats.... that sure sounds like pointing the finger as to why it passed!

Guess what! The agreement's supporters included 132 Republicans and 102 Democrats. The bill passed the Senate on November 20, 1993. IT WAS PASSED BY REPUBLICANS!

I'd really like to put this argument to bed but, before I do, here is a somewhat unbiased article you might want to read by theGuardian. They are a British newspaper and not affiliated to the US - either side.


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/aug/30/nafta-what-is-it-why-is-trump-trying-to-renegotiate
Unreal! br br NAFTA was a Republican idea (actual... (show quote)



"Perot ultimately lost the election, and the winner, Bill Clinton, supported NAFTA, which went into effect on January 1, 1994.:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Free_Trade_Agreement

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Apr 19, 2020 12:32:53   #
BooIsMyCat Loc: Somewhere
 
EyeSawYou wrote:
Lol you really can't be this illiterate can you be?


Funny!

You wouldn't know FACTS if they slapped your mother.
Fox News can set you straight!

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Apr 19, 2020 12:34:09   #
EyeSawYou
 
You said in part; Guess what! The agreement's supporters included 132 Republicans and 102 Democrats. The bill passed the Senate on November 20, 1993. IT WAS PASSED BY REPUBLICANS!



The bill passed the Senate on November 20, 1993, 61–38. Senate supporters were 34 Republicans and 27 Democrats. Clinton signed it into law on December 8, 1993; the agreement went into effect on January 1, 1994. Clinton, while signing the NAFTA bill, stated that "NAFTA means jobs.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org › wiki
North American Free Trade Agreement - Wikipedia

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Apr 19, 2020 12:34:18   #
photosbytw Loc: Blue Ridge Mountains
 
This is as bad as watching a tennis match.................

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Apr 19, 2020 12:36:37   #
EyeSawYou
 
photosbytw wrote:
This is as bad as watching a tennis match.................


That boring ha? Lol Well, unless you're watching women's tennis.

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Apr 19, 2020 12:37:47   #
BooIsMyCat Loc: Somewhere
 
EyeSawYou wrote:
You said in part; Guess what! The agreement's supporters included 132 Republicans and 102 Democrats. The bill passed the Senate on November 20, 1993. IT WAS PASSED BY REPUBLICANS!



The bill passed the Senate on November 20, 1993, 61–38. Senate supporters were 34 Republicans and 27 Democrats. Clinton signed it into law on December 8, 1993; the agreement went into effect on January 1, 1994. Clinton, while signing the NAFTA bill, stated that "NAFTA means jobs.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org › wiki
North American Free Trade Agreement - Wikipedia
You said in part; Guess what! The agreement's supp... (show quote)





Before sending it to the United States Senate Clinton added two side agreements, the North American Agreement on Labor Cooperation (NAALC) and the North American Agreement on Environmental Cooperation (NAAEC), to protect workers and the environment, and to also allay the concerns of many House members. The U.S. required its partners to adhere to environmental practices and regulations similar to its own.[citation needed] After much consideration and emotional discussion, the U.S. House of Representatives passed the North American Free Trade Agreement Implementation Act on November 17, 1993, 234–200. The agreement's supporters included 132 Republicans and 102 Democrats. The bill passed the Senate on November 20, 1993, 61–38.[21] Senate supporters were 34 Republicans and 27 Democrats. Clinton signed it into law on December 8, 1993; the agreement went into effect on January 1, 1994.[22][23] Clinton, while signing the NAFTA bill, stated that "NAFTA means jobs. American jobs, and good-paying American jobs. If I didn't believe that, I wouldn't support this agreement."[24] NAFTA then replaced the previous Canada-US FTA.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Free_Trade_Agreement

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Apr 19, 2020 12:42:22   #
photosbytw Loc: Blue Ridge Mountains
 
Oops.

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Apr 19, 2020 12:42:39   #
BooIsMyCat Loc: Somewhere
 
EyeSawYou wrote:
You said in part; Guess what! The agreement's supporters included 132 Republicans and 102 Democrats. The bill passed the Senate on November 20, 1993. IT WAS PASSED BY REPUBLICANS!



The bill passed the Senate on November 20, 1993, 61–38. Senate supporters were 34 Republicans and 27 Democrats. Clinton signed it into law on December 8, 1993; the agreement went into effect on January 1, 1994. Clinton, while signing the NAFTA bill, stated that "NAFTA means jobs.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org › wiki
North American Free Trade Agreement - Wikipedia
You said in part; Guess what! The agreement's supp... (show quote)




Braindead!

SENATE supporters were 34 R and 27 D
HOUSE supporters were 132 R and 102 D

Would NEVER have gotten to Clinton's desk if 164 Republicans hadn't supported it!

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Apr 19, 2020 13:21:46   #
EyeSawYou
 
BooIsMyCat wrote:
Braindead!

SENATE supporters were 34 R and 27 D
HOUSE supporters were 132 R and 102 D

Would NEVER have gotten to Clinton's desk if 164 Republicans hadn't supported it!


Brain-dead??? LOL You implied that the NAFTA bill was supported by Republicans but omitted the fact that NAFTA was also supported by Democrats and Bill Clinton. LOL You even submitted the numbers as I did that support my conclusion.

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Apr 19, 2020 13:22:50   #
EyeSawYou
 
BooIsMyCat wrote:
Before sending it to the United States Senate Clinton added two side agreements, the North American Agreement on Labor Cooperation (NAALC) and the North American Agreement on Environmental Cooperation (NAAEC), to protect workers and the environment, and to also allay the concerns of many House members. The U.S. required its partners to adhere to environmental practices and regulations similar to its own.[citation needed] After much consideration and emotional discussion, the U.S. House of Representatives passed the North American Free Trade Agreement Implementation Act on November 17, 1993, 234–200. The agreement's supporters included 132 Republicans and 102 Democrats. The bill passed the Senate on November 20, 1993, 61–38.[21] Senate supporters were 34 Republicans and 27 Democrats. Clinton signed it into law on December 8, 1993; the agreement went into effect on January 1, 1994.[22][23] Clinton, while signing the NAFTA bill, stated that "NAFTA means jobs. American jobs, and good-paying American jobs. If I didn't believe that, I wouldn't support this agreement."[24] NAFTA then replaced the previous Canada-US FTA.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Free_Trade_Agreement
Before sending it to the United States Senate Clin... (show quote)


LOL Why are you posting what I already posted and supports my argument against yours 2-3 times???

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Apr 19, 2020 13:23:56   #
EyeSawYou
 
BooIsMyCat wrote:
Funny!

You wouldn't know FACTS if they slapped your mother.
Fox News can set you straight!


LOL That's hilarious, I debunked your lies with facts yet you reject those facts.

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Apr 19, 2020 13:36:45   #
photosbytw Loc: Blue Ridge Mountains
 
Sorry........went for quick bite...........who's winning?

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Apr 19, 2020 14:00:53   #
EyeSawYou
 
photosbytw wrote:
Sorry........went for quick bite...........who's winning?


Truth is winning and has already won, which means the OP lost.

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Apr 19, 2020 14:17:08   #
photosbytw Loc: Blue Ridge Mountains
 
EyeSawYou wrote:
Truth is winning and has already won, which means the OP lost.


Great.......now if we could only find a way to get along........

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