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Mar 24, 2020 17:10:51   #
John_F Loc: Minneapolis, MN
 
Did the novel coronavirus known as COVID-19 really come from wild animals?

We have every reason to believe so, yes. Scientists believe this new form of coronavirus originated from a seafood market in Wuhan where various species of wild animals were sold and butchered illegally. Experts from China’s Center for Disease Control (CDC) successfully isolated the virus from samples taken from the market.

Live animal markets where a broad variety of domestic and wildlife species are sold for consumption are perfect breeding grounds for diseases. Animals sold at these markets are often kept in small cages stacked on top of each other - the stress of captivity weakens their immune systems making it easier for viruses to spread from species to species. With the SARS epidemic in 2003, the virus jumped from bats to civet cats as an intermediary host, before being transmitted to humans. Scientists in China have deduced that this new type of coronavirus 'jumped' from bats to another intermediary species and ultimately to humans as well.

Diseases that are animal-borne are ‘zoonotic diseases’. There are many examples of modern zoonotic diseases that spread from wild animals to humans. HIV/aids is thought to have originated in chimpanzees in West-Africa, hunted and butchered for human consumption. The reservoir for Ebola is within African bats, considered a delicacy in parts of Africa. Hence, the spread of zoonotic pathogens is a worldwide problem. New diseases coming from wild animals can erupt in all parts of the world as long as humans keep hunting, trading and butchering wild animals.

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Mar 24, 2020 17:20:56   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
John_F wrote:
Did the novel coronavirus known as COVID-19 really come from wild animals?

We have every reason to believe so, yes. Scientists believe this new form of coronavirus originated from a seafood market in Wuhan where various species of wild animals were sold and butchered illegally. Experts from China’s Center for Disease Control (CDC) successfully isolated the virus from samples taken from the market.

Live animal markets where a broad variety of domestic and wildlife species are sold for consumption are perfect breeding grounds for diseases. Animals sold at these markets are often kept in small cages stacked on top of each other - the stress of captivity weakens their immune systems making it easier for viruses to spread from species to species. With the SARS epidemic in 2003, the virus jumped from bats to civet cats as an intermediary host, before being transmitted to humans. Scientists in China have deduced that this new type of coronavirus 'jumped' from bats to another intermediary species and ultimately to humans as well.

Diseases that are animal-borne are ‘zoonotic diseases’. There are many examples of modern zoonotic diseases that spread from wild animals to humans. HIV/aids is thought to have originated in chimpanzees in West-Africa, hunted and butchered for human consumption. The reservoir for Ebola is within African bats, considered a delicacy in parts of Africa. Hence, the spread of zoonotic pathogens is a worldwide problem. New diseases coming from wild animals can erupt in all parts of the world as long as humans keep hunting, trading and butchering wild animals.
Did the novel coronavirus known as COVID-19 really... (show quote)


IFAW?????

How strange humans have been killing and eating animals for centuries if not hundreds of thousands to millions of years and now it is becoming a problem. So apparently if man stops hunting and eating wild animals these viruses won't appear. Is that what you are saying? But what about animals themselves who eat other animals every day and have since the planet was created? Are you saying they contribute nothing negative but that it is only man who is at fault?

Dennis

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Mar 24, 2020 17:23:26   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
It's interesting that 50+ years ago people were eating more wild animals, but the stuff is only showing up relatively recently?

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Mar 24, 2020 17:36:00   #
Curmudgeon Loc: SE Arizona
 
Sounds like a more propaganda. Zoonotic diseases since mankind has existed. Here's a partial list.

• bovine tuberculosis
• brucellosis
• Campylobacter infection
• cat scratch fever
• cryptosporidiosis
• cysticercosis
• dengue fever
• Ebola
• encephalitis from ticks
• enzootic abortion
• erysipeloid
• fish tank granuloma
• giardiasis
• glanders
• hemorrhagic colitis
• hepatitis E
• hydatid disease
• Leptospirosis
• listeria infection
• louping ill
• Lyme disease
• lymphocytic choriomeningitis
• malaria
• orf infection
• parrot fever
• pasteurellosis
• plague
• Q fever
• rabies
• rat-bite fever
• ringworm
• Rocky Mountain spotted fever
• Salmonella and E. coli infections
• streptococcal sepsis
• swine flu
• toxocariasis
• toxoplasmosis
• trichinellosis
• tularemia
• West Nile virus
• zoonotic diphtheria

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Mar 24, 2020 17:38:13   #
mas24 Loc: Southern CA
 
dennis2146 wrote:
IFAW?????

How strange humans have been killing and eating animals for centuries if not hundreds of thousands to millions of years and now it is becoming a problem. So apparently if man stops hunting and eating wild animals these viruses won't appear. Is that what you are saying? But what about animals themselves who eat other animals every day and have since the planet was created? Are you saying they contribute nothing negative but that it is only man who is at fault?

Dennis


IFAW. International Fund For Animal Welfare.

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Mar 24, 2020 17:40:12   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Curmudgeon wrote:
Sounds like a more propaganda. Zoonotic diseases since mankind has existed. Here's a partial list.

• ...


Supports my statement. Nothing new, just different bugs.

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Mar 24, 2020 17:41:47   #
John_F Loc: Minneapolis, MN
 
International Fund for Animal Welfare. Note the reference to illegal wild animal markets for eating in China. The article says what it says.


dennis2146 wrote:
IFAW?????

How strange humans have been killing and eating animals for centuries if not hundreds of thousands to millions of years and now it is becoming a problem. So apparently if man stops hunting and eating wild animals these viruses won't appear. Is that what you are saying? But what about animals themselves who eat other animals every day and have since the planet was created? Are you saying they contribute nothing negative but that it is only man who is at fault?

Dennis

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Mar 24, 2020 17:46:44   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
mas24 wrote:
IFAW. International Fund For Animal Welfare.


Thanks. I will take the post as anti hunting propaganda and put it right where I put PETA information.
That would be, People Eating Tasty Animals.

Dennis

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Mar 24, 2020 17:47:16   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
John_F wrote:
International Fund for Animal Welfare. Note the reference to illegal wild animal markets for eating in China. The article says what it says.


There will always be people doing this illegally/unsafely. Especially in certain locations.

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Mar 24, 2020 19:16:49   #
krashdragon
 
People didnt use to move around as much.
When I was a kid, 2 of my parents friends would vacation in Florida for 2 weeks. To the rest of us stuck in NE Ohio, that seemed pretty exotic.

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Apr 11, 2020 21:47:12   #
PH CIB
 
I originally posted this on one of your Threads in December 2019,,,,"""The Story about Global Pandemics is especially interesting and terrifying...I have read some books about the Russian Biological Warfare Research Laboratories and the United States Biological Warfare Research Laboratories....I personally and this is just my opinion feel a Bird Flu Virus World Pandemic is imminent...Why, because we can blame it on Nature, develop the Virus in the Lab along with the Vaccine and then after vaccinating the chosen few spread the Virus all over the World...Billions will die destroying whole Families and the Stock Market will crash, Homes and Farms and Businesses will come up for sale for pennies and the Vultures who started the Pandemic will swoop in buying up real estate, farms and ranches, businesses, stocks and bonds for pennies and then rolling out the vaccine which they had all along, looking like Heroes, and making a fortune on the vaccine as the World recovers and the real estate, farms and ranches, businesses and stocks and bonds they bought for pennies will skyrocket in value...a Global Pandemic does not destroy infrastructure just people and since this will not only be the greatest die off of humans in human history it will also be the greatest transfer of wealth in human history which is exactly why it will probably happen...."""

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