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Mar 19, 2020 02:15:08   #
Angmo
 
Frosty wrote:
Posting this graph is disingenuous. Show the whole graph since 2008, not just the portion after 2016. You will see the slope of the graph to be the same before 2016 as it was after2016. if the Obama recovery was slow, so is the trump recovery.

Obama had to deal with 5 problems left behind by bush.
1. War in Iraq started by bush.
2. War in Afghanistan started by bush.
3. Low employment and low tax receipts.
4. Tax cuts when money was needed to pay for the wars bush started.
5. An unregulated housing securities market (that he was warned about) that brought down the major investment banks, ruined Lehman Brothers as well as nearly bankrupted AIG and the auto industry.

Trump on the other hand inherited a robust economy and is claiming credit for Obama’s leading us out of the Bush recession.
Posting this graph is disingenuous. Show the whole... (show quote)

All demonstrably wrong.

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Mar 19, 2020 10:40:43   #
JohnFrim Loc: Somewhere in the Great White North.
 
Angmo wrote:
All demonstrably wrong.


Well then demonstrate what is wrong and show what is right.

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Mar 19, 2020 14:08:08   #
Angmo
 
JohnFrim wrote:
Well then demonstrate what is wrong and show what is right.


*yawn

Let’s start with the evil leftie dem created housing fiasco. Then Read up on your boyfriend Barney Frank and how he hid it all. Discuss how Bush tried to get involved and fix it.

Then go back to sleep

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Mar 19, 2020 15:22:48   #
Frosty Loc: Minnesota
 
Angmo wrote:
All demonstrably wrong.


Prove it, or didn't your handlers in St Petersburg tell you what to say?

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Mar 19, 2020 15:41:07   #
Frosty Loc: Minnesota
 
Angmo wrote:
*yawn

Let’s start with the evil leftie dem created housing fiasco. Then Read up on your boyfriend Barney Frank and how he hid it all. Discuss how Bush tried to get involved and fix it.

Then go back to sleep


Not an ounce of evidence here, but a ton of BS.

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Mar 19, 2020 16:07:37   #
Angmo
 
Frosty wrote:
Not an ounce of evidence here, but a ton of BS.


Start reading, boy. You wanna be spoon fed by the adults? Just grow up and be one yourself. It’s all in the congressional record. Not the evil leftie dem fake news. Seek truth and fact. Be brave.

So prove me wrong. Lol. You cant prove truth and fact wrong.

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Mar 19, 2020 17:35:55   #
49south Loc: Bux-Mont, Pa
 
You tell em comrade.

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Mar 20, 2020 00:29:40   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
Screamin Scott wrote:
Liberal economists predicted that the economy would tank under Trump... Well, it hasn't ant the GDP is higher than the "new normal" of 2% Obama predicted...

Care to reconsider your statement now that trump has managed to crash the Stock Market, restaurants and businesses all across the country have been forced to close their doors, malls have been ordered to shut down until further notice, hundreds of thousands have already filed new unemployment benefits claims as of last week with a prediction of a 20% unemployment rate in the very near future, and airlines are grounding plains and crews because the general public has cut back on nonessential travel?

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Mar 20, 2020 00:43:32   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
Frosty wrote:
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From the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

https://www.bls.gov/charts/employment-situation/civilian-unemployment-rate.htm

Wild unsubstantiated trump claims (Lies) or facts supporting Obama. You choose.

I can't wait to see what that chart looks like over the next few weeks or months as the self quarantines turn into mandatory shelter in place orders and more people lose their jobs.

Last week there were over 250,000 new unemployment claims, and it's going to be even higher exponentially for this week and every week from now until they get a handle on stopping the spread of the Covid-19 Virus and sufficient supplies into the hands of the medical staff who're on the front lines of the war against this killer virus.

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Mar 20, 2020 00:46:11   #
EyeSawYou
 
Shutterbug1697 wrote:
Care to reconsider your statement now that trump has managed to crash the Stock Market, restaurants and businesses all across the country have been forced to close their doors, malls have been ordered to shut down until further notice, hundreds of thousands have already filed new unemployment benefits claims as of last week with a prediction of a 20% unemployment rate in the very near future, and airlines are grounding plains and crews because the general public has cut back on nonessential travel?
Care to reconsider your statement now that trump h... (show quote)


LOL You are such a pathetic big liar, Trump didn't cause this bump in the economy nor the stock market you lying full.

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Mar 20, 2020 00:49:13   #
EyeSawYou
 
Shutterbug1697 wrote:
Care to reconsider your statement now that trump has managed to crash the Stock Market, restaurants and businesses all across the country have been forced to close their doors, malls have been ordered to shut down until further notice, hundreds of thousands have already filed new unemployment benefits claims as of last week with a prediction of a 20% unemployment rate in the very near future, and airlines are grounding plains and crews because the general public has cut back on nonessential travel?
Care to reconsider your statement now that trump h... (show quote)


Care to reconsider your false statements??

Hey D-AZZ, please address your lie and false prediction.

LOL You are always making false assertions and predictions. Here is one of your recent false predictions that made yourself look like a conspiracy nut. You made this false claim on 03/12/2020, 7 days ago or 168 hours ago

"The sad thing is that trump is already infected with the Covid-19 Virus after at least 3 separate exposure events. AIPAC, CPAC, and the Brazilian delegation at Mar-A-Largo."

trump was congested during his Oval Office fiasco last night. < No he wasn't lol

"Let's see how long it'll be before trump and Pence disappear from public view. I give them about another 48 to 72 hours!

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Mar 20, 2020 00:50:01   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
JohnFrim wrote:
There are plenty of charts/data to show the steady "progress trends" in unemployment, GDP, Dow Jones, etc, from 2010 onwards. The data show NO SIGNIFICANT bumps or changes in slope of the trends. Everything is humming along smoothly.

As has been said many times, Trump can claim credit for the numbers today being the lowest/highest ever (depending on the indicator being measured), but that is exactly what one would expect from a smooth progression of a trend... AS LONG AS NO ONE DOES SOMETHING STUPID TO UPSET THE APPLE CART!!! To Trump's credit he has NOT YET done anything that would cause the economy to go sour. But there is still time... especially if he gets re-elected.

But despite the data that have been presented ad nauseam now, Trumpeters still think that Obama's economy was crap and that Trump turned it around. Trump did no such thing. The truth is out there if one has their eyes open.
There are plenty of charts/data to show the steady... (show quote)

It's amazing what a difference less than 30 days make!

trump has singlehandedly tanked the Stock Market, caused the widespread of Covid-19 all across the United States by his inaction, which has resulted in hundreds of thousands of people losing their jobs!

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Mar 20, 2020 00:52:48   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
drainbamage wrote:
Three years later??

The Dow changes hourly.....

It's fallen all the way back to the point it was at when trump took his Oath of Office in less than 2 weeks!

This is the new reality of the trump failed economy!

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Mar 20, 2020 00:55:24   #
EyeSawYou
 
Shutterbug1697 wrote:
It's amazing what a difference less than 30 days make!

trump has singlehandedly tanked the Stock Market, caused the widespread of Covid-19 all across the United States by his inaction, which has resulted in hundreds of thousands of people losing their jobs!


LOL Only a lying dishonest full would make such a false claim lol.

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Mar 20, 2020 00:56:15   #
EyeSawYou
 
Shutterbug1697 wrote:
It's fallen all the way back to the point it was at when trump took his Oath of Office in less than 2 weeks!

This is the new reality of the trump failed economy!


LOL Trump failed economy? LOLOLOL OMFG you are a maroon.

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