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Sep 20, 2012 11:43:36   #
gessman Loc: Colorado
 
ron moore wrote:
hello everyone

this picture was taken with my 500d using a17-85mm lense
f5.6 - 500th sec. - ISO 100 - focal length 85mm.
why is butterfly on the left out of focus. What am i doing wrong.

regards ron moore


Let me suggest something else to you. When the light won't allow you to shoot at a higher aperture, you may need to resort to something called "focus stacking." It's a process whereby you take multiple images of a scene focused at different distances from you and using a special software to blend all the focused images together. Often, due to a lack of the ability to select an appropriate aperture and shutter speed to achieve what you want in focus, that's the only way you can get a totally focused image from the front to the back. Google "focus stacking" and read about it. There is free software available for download that will stack images or you can buy software for it. Here's a good url to read about it:

http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tutorials/focus-stacking.htm

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Sep 20, 2012 11:57:36   #
birdpix Loc: South East Pennsylvania
 
gessman wrote:
ron moore wrote:
hello everyone

this picture was taken with my 500d using a17-85mm lense
f5.6 - 500th sec. - ISO 100 - focal length 85mm.
why is butterfly on the left out of focus. What am i doing wrong.

regards ron moore


Let me suggest something else to you. When the light won't allow you to shoot at a higher aperture, you may need to resort to something called "focus stacking." It's a process whereby you take multiple images of a scene focused at different distances from you and using a special software to blend all the focused images together. Often, due to a lack of the ability to select an appropriate aperture and shutter speed to achieve what you want in focus, that's the only way you can get a totally focused image from the front to the back. Google "focus stacking" and read about it. There is free software available for download that will stack images or you can buy software for it. Here's a good url to read about it:

http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tutorials/focus-stacking.htm
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Gessman,

Without an understanding of DOF, none of that will make any sense.

Ron,

Here is a link to a tutorial that MWAC did last summer that will get you started on Depth of Field.

http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-41242-1.html

Enjoy and keep taking photos!

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Sep 20, 2012 12:26:50   #
gessman Loc: Colorado
 
birdpix wrote:
gessman wrote:
ron moore wrote:
hello everyone

this picture was taken with my 500d using a17-85mm lense
f5.6 - 500th sec. - ISO 100 - focal length 85mm.
why is butterfly on the left out of focus. What am i doing wrong.

regards ron moore


Let me suggest something else to you. When the light won't allow you to shoot at a higher aperture, you may need to resort to something called "focus stacking." It's a process whereby you take multiple images of a scene focused at different distances from you and using a special software to blend all the focused images together. Often, due to a lack of the ability to select an appropriate aperture and shutter speed to achieve what you want in focus, that's the only way you can get a totally focused image from the front to the back. Google "focus stacking" and read about it. There is free software available for download that will stack images or you can buy software for it. Here's a good url to read about it:

http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tutorials/focus-stacking.htm
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Gessman,

Without an understanding of DOF, none of that will make any sense.

Ron,

Here is a link to a tutorial that MWAC did last summer that will get you started on Depth of Field.

http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-41242-1.html

Enjoy and keep taking photos!
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Ron had already been told about ten times what his problem was in this image, had been referred to his manual, other materials, and the dof calculator but wasn't told that even after he gets dof figured out that it may not be a simple thing to achieve complete focus so I pointed him to where he goes if and after he arrives at that point, without assuming he can't handle the complete story in one package. I felt that was reasonable and still do.

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Sep 20, 2012 20:14:17   #
LoneRangeFinder Loc: Left field
 
Al FR-153 wrote:
ron moore wrote:
hi everyone


very sunny hot day no clouds and i was standing about 5` away.

regards ron moore


According to your EXIF, you were actually a distance of .56m from the butterfly that was in focus. That equates to 21.84", not 5 feet. Therefore, the butterfly that is in focus is tack sharp, however, the butterfly that was an inch or two closer (the one on the left) is no longer in focus.

The EF-S17-85mm lens is an 1: 4-5.6 lens. To get both in focus, you will have to shoot at about f8 to get away from the DOF issue. In other words, a macro type lens. My EF-S18-135 1:3.5-5.6 is marked as a macro (.45m - 1.5 ft) or 18 inches, however, that is at focus point, not necessarily at the DOF I would desire. I'm not sure if you have the same marking on your lens barrel or not, you might look.

In reality, you have a very sharp photo of the butterfly on the right...enjoy that. Sorry that you didn't get them both in focus, but hope this helps resolve your question.
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If that distance is correct, along with the focal length and the f/stop, the DOF is .31"-- not much margin of error

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Sep 25, 2012 22:17:15   #
lensmanicu Loc: Mississippi
 
According to the info that came with my camera. Large apertures ( low F numbers) reduces depth of field blurring objects in front of and behind the main subject. Small apertures ( high F numbers) increases depth of field, bringing out details in background and the foreground. Short depths of field are generally used for Portraits to blur background details. While Long depths of field in landscape photographs to bring the foreground and the background into focus. Hope this helps.

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