rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA

With my Pentax KP, I get the colors and details I saw. This is a 24mp “APS-C” camera - I neither want nor plan to purchase anything else ..... the only possible area of gain I see is ISO, and right now I am happy with a practical upper limit of 51,000.

https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-631428-1.html

williejoha

The D7 II is a crop sensor and together with the 100-400 L II works great for BBF’s.
So it all depends what you want to shoot, no one statement fits all.
WJH

SteveLew Loc: Sugar Land, TX

I have both a Fuji XT2 with three lenses(eg, 18 to 55 2.8/4, 50 2 and 10 to 24 4) and a Nikon Z6 with a 14 to 30 4. I really do not favor the Fuji over the Nikon since both cameras focus about the same, are both robust and dynamic. The Fuji XT3 is more fun to use then the Nikon but I appreciate the full frame of the Nikon Z6. I really do not favor either camera over the other since they are so different.

Ysarex Loc: St. Louis

That's a little too broad an assertion. Consider the photo below. Make sure and download it and have a close look. Look at the darkest shadows at full-res and note the noise level. Look at the flower petals in focus and consider the detail level. At 4000 x 3000 pixels it'll make an excellent 13 X 19 inch print.

That's a photo of a blossom on one of my peach trees. It was a windy day such that the wind never actually stopped. The branch was fairly stiff but the flower petals never stopped moving. I shot a "motion bracket set" taking around 10 frames hoping to catch a usable one. Because of the wind I had the shutter set to 1/1000 sec. At ISO 80 I got the exposure I wanted at f/3.7.

F/3.7 gave me a reasonable amount of DOF and I did want the blossom to appear for the most part in focus. I'm happy with the photo. The camera I used had a tiny 1/17 sensor but and excellent Schneider zoom lens. To take the photo I took the camera from my pocket. It easily fit in a jacket pocket and could in fact fit in a shirt pocket.

Now let's take the same photo with a FF camera. First put a 3X zoom (macro capable) on your FF camera and put that camera and lens in your shirt pocket and take a selfie -- let's see that.

To get the same DOF that I did you'd have to stop the FF camera lens down to f/18. That's going to send your shutter speed below 1/50th sec. and you're shut down by the wind. To get you shutter speed back up to where I had it you'll have to raise the ISO to 2000. FF cameras perform very well at higher ISO values and at ISO 2000 you should be able to do nearly as good as I did at ISO 80 with my shirt-pocket compact.

My wife is a botanist and I have spent considerable years photographing plants and flowers. When you do that for a scientist you can't get enough in focus and so deeper DOF than whatever you've got is desirable. When my wife and I are out for a hike and she's pointing out this one and that one and wanting photos I sure don't want a FF camera along. In the second photo below I got a "that a boy" by including the environment and good DOF covering the plant. I shot it hand-held at ISO 80. To take that photo with a FF camera again you'd need to be at f/19 to get comparable DOF. Hope it's not windy.

Joe

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ronpier Loc: Poland Ohio

Nice shots especially #2.

cmaxi

I have never seen the argument summed up better than this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHYidejT3KY
Fuji also renders colors like no one else. Their background is in film, not electronics or optics (although they are learning quickly). They know and understand color better than any of the majors.
I went on hiatus from UHH a long time ago because of the senseless pixel peeper conversations. Pixels have no soul, if you get what I mean. The pixel peeping thing is a very easy trap to fall into. Imagine if the great photos of the 20th century were judged only on resolution and sharpness. Someone made the comment about judging artists by the quality of their brushes........

Angmo

How about those cave drawings. f0.1, Shutter speed in thousands of years.

DeanS Loc: Capital City area of North Carolina

Limited lens availability is a non-issue. Most ff lens function well on crop body cameras.

CWGordon

If a person can be happy w/a crop sensor camera, more power to him or her. I say, it is what meets that persons needs that matters.

CWGordon

If a person can be happy w/a crop sensor camera, more power to him or her. I say, it is what meets that persons needs that matters.

ralf Loc: NJ

No going back

lositton Loc: Pensacola, FL

I sold my Canon 5D Mk IV because my old, arthritic hands were having trouble managing the weight with the 100-400 lens. I kept my 80D & 100-400 (still heavy) to use in the yard. I bought a Sony a7riii, which is a little bit lighter than the 5D & I use it for most everything else. I just couldn't help myself and I bought the 200-600 Sony lens for wildlife. Still too heavy and have to use with a tripod! I get some great images with both but if I had to choose, I'd choose the full frame.

Neal Smith

I have a Nikon D750 FF and a D7100 crop. I do a lot of birding, and sometimes the extra reach of the crop sensor is needed. The D7100 is also faster, with a shutter speed up to 1/8000th. I just switched to the D750, and have only two lenses I can use on it without vignetting. Each camera has advantages and disadvantages.

Ysarex Loc: St. Louis

Thanks. It's not too often that I satisfy the scientist (wife) who wants information and at the same time manage to get a shot that I also enjoy aesthetically. That one's an early blooming trillium that here in the Midwest goes by the colloquial name Wake Robin.

Joe

CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

Inferior equipment is for other photographers.