Do "Pro's" near you do this?
Nov 7, 2011 12:39:23 #
Oh, but people love that! They love that lens flare. I'm not the only one who has sold those photos that were accidents, but the clients loved the effect. Strange, I know. Does depend how it was done.
Nikonian72 wrote:
quote=SDav612 This is one, but there is another ... (show quote)
Nov 7, 2011 12:40:58 #
Hi nikon, Do you mind if I e-mail your address to a professor at Shippensburg University? He teaches the study of Bugs,( I don't remember what his title is), and I think he would enjoy your work. He also is a photographer to and has had photos in National Geographic. Let me Know CATMAN
Nov 7, 2011 12:46:56 #
According to Bobbi Lane (Google her), this is a great example of slash lighting and it's okay if the hair is blown out. We actually had to practice this.
wilsondl2 wrote:
quote=SDav612 There are a couple of "pro&quo... (show quote)
Nov 7, 2011 12:50:11 #
Okay, okay. here's the deal. A "Pro" is the same thing as an "Expert", right? Well, I made the mistake once of telling an older, more experienced engineer in our office that I was an "expert" at something-or-other, and he says, "Do you know what an Expert is?" and I says... ahh... I'm sure you'll tell me, and he says, "Broken down into its component parts, "Ex" is a has been, and "Spurt" is a drip of water." I never again said I was expert at anything.
stevelink wrote:
Agree with previous posters...that is not a "quality" portrait, and I'd be surprised that a "Pro" would represent it as such.
Nov 7, 2011 12:58:03 #
Nikonian72 wrote:
If that is your daughter in the photo, she looks okay. But her companion is melting!
SDav612 wrote:
That was my reaction too and like I said, the other local photographer is much worse. Some of her's look like they have a lightbulb on the side of their head. It drives me crazy! This one posted, my daughter actually had to pay for!
If that is your daughter in the photo, she looks okay. But her companion is melting!
That is my daughter and her husband. She was pretty disappointed. I would like to post one of the other photographer that I was talking about, but I don't feel that is appropriate. Thanks for your comments!
Nov 7, 2011 13:08:18 #
Terry Scott Reed wrote:
OK, so we are all in agreement here, its a lousy s... (show quote)
My original question was basically meant as, is this a growing trend? Do most people like this? My daughter didn't like it, but after you pay, what can you do? There were a few decent shots though. It certainly has NOTHING to do with jealousy! I can take her photo just about any weekend if we both have time. I also do most of my photography of different subjects, mostly landscape.
Nov 7, 2011 13:08:33 #
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SDav612 wrote:
There are a couple of "pro" photographers in my area that like to take photos of people with the sun in the photo, usually near their head. The sun blows out the shot and sometimes you can't even see their face. I think it looks hideous, but wanted opinions from others. If you don't understand what I am talking about, maybe I can reproduce and post.
Nov 7, 2011 13:37:28 #
I agree... if that couple SNAPSHOT was the 'best' - then I'd be demanding a refund. And, if I shot something like that, which is unlikely, it would have been deleted on the initial sort - and never shown to the client. Sadly, an ND filter, CP, and a slightly different angle could have made this photo much better easily.
Another of the things that annoy me, with some 'pros' is that the majority of their portrait shots look identical - other than the actual face - from person to person, couple to couple. Same poses, same angles, same lighting, same back grounds, same body positioning, and same prop(s). So little differences. Personally, I'd think that was boring.
I was once told that the 'customers' don't compare and that's what they want... and I responded with 'customers' imply repeat business; which, unless you change things up some, I'm wondering if you get.
Some of their shots was almost like the man that took 365 pictures of his beard & hair growth... one a day... from the same position (spot), angle, lighting, etc. then turned it into a high speed 'movie' and his body & face hardly moved from frame to frame... despite 365 different photos.
Another of the things that annoy me, with some 'pros' is that the majority of their portrait shots look identical - other than the actual face - from person to person, couple to couple. Same poses, same angles, same lighting, same back grounds, same body positioning, and same prop(s). So little differences. Personally, I'd think that was boring.
I was once told that the 'customers' don't compare and that's what they want... and I responded with 'customers' imply repeat business; which, unless you change things up some, I'm wondering if you get.
Some of their shots was almost like the man that took 365 pictures of his beard & hair growth... one a day... from the same position (spot), angle, lighting, etc. then turned it into a high speed 'movie' and his body & face hardly moved from frame to frame... despite 365 different photos.
Nov 7, 2011 13:43:57 #
Love that definition of 'expert' - hadn't heard that one before.
Another I once heard is: "Amateurs practice until they get it right, experts practice until they can't get it wrong." ~Unknown
"With computers & photography, as in life, every day is a learning experience, because regardless how much you think you know, there will always be some changes, upgrades, or differences in perspective that can improve what you are doing." ~Terry Mercer
Another I once heard is: "Amateurs practice until they get it right, experts practice until they can't get it wrong." ~Unknown
"With computers & photography, as in life, every day is a learning experience, because regardless how much you think you know, there will always be some changes, upgrades, or differences in perspective that can improve what you are doing." ~Terry Mercer
Nov 7, 2011 13:46:45 #
hayuya
Loc: Glendale, Arizona
Going back to the first post. How many of you like the art of Miro? Picasso? Dali? Rembrant? Mone? VanGoh? DaVinci? Porchanelli? just to mention a few.
The same with photography. As the painter uses the brush to create his art, the photographer uses the camera to play with light to create an image. Yes, you had a Rembrant in paint and you had a Monte Sucker in photography. Yes, you had Picasso and you have a Ciro Totku. Yes, you had a... well, you follow my point.
Now, you have, not the "pro", but, the "artist". And this brings to my mind the fable of Iriarte and Samaniego where the Owner tells his Donkey, "Eat straw. That's good enough for you." To which the Donkey replies, "Because you give me straw I eat straw. But, give me grain and I'll show you I eat grain."
I bet that there are some of us that, probably, like the effect created by SDav of the couple better than the original photograph. Just remember Kennedy with, "You can please some of the people..." famous speech.
SDav, it is good to see and analize what other are doing in photography. That's one of the ways you help to develope your style and, when you do, you'll find that clients will come after you (client that like your photography, of course).
The same with photography. As the painter uses the brush to create his art, the photographer uses the camera to play with light to create an image. Yes, you had a Rembrant in paint and you had a Monte Sucker in photography. Yes, you had Picasso and you have a Ciro Totku. Yes, you had a... well, you follow my point.
Now, you have, not the "pro", but, the "artist". And this brings to my mind the fable of Iriarte and Samaniego where the Owner tells his Donkey, "Eat straw. That's good enough for you." To which the Donkey replies, "Because you give me straw I eat straw. But, give me grain and I'll show you I eat grain."
I bet that there are some of us that, probably, like the effect created by SDav of the couple better than the original photograph. Just remember Kennedy with, "You can please some of the people..." famous speech.
SDav, it is good to see and analize what other are doing in photography. That's one of the ways you help to develope your style and, when you do, you'll find that clients will come after you (client that like your photography, of course).
Nov 7, 2011 14:40:50 #
SDav612 wrote:
There are a couple of "pro" photographers in my area that like to take photos of people with the sun in the photo, usually near their head. The sun blows out the shot and sometimes you can't even see their face. I think it looks hideous, but wanted opinions from others. If you don't understand what I am talking about, maybe I can reproduce and post.
Picture is horrible. lighting is bad and angle is just as bad. delete it before it spreads.
Nov 7, 2011 15:02:49 #
gizzy.whicker wrote:
Well, Tilde -- hint hint... in case you want to kn... (show quote)
My word!
*HUGE blush*
Guess it's time for the paper bag again!?
*snickers*
(Which, I suppose, is better than what I THOUGHT you were gonna say, which was you couldn't get a word in edgewise... in which case... duct-tape might have been the ticket! LOL)
Wow! I don't want to be responsible for you and Gessman having heart-attacks!
(You're such a nut... Love that sense of humor!
OH!
Wait!
I'm replying to the thread... and just like that... it's gone again! ;) Well crap! )
Nov 7, 2011 15:17:36 #
Val wrote:
I think he is talking about lens flare from the sun.
Nice photo Val, you do great work.
Nov 7, 2011 15:29:52 #
To me, this is just like customers coming in to have their hair done for the wedding. She has purchased the wrong dress to begin with, her makeup was not professionally done and looks it. The question is do you want to uphold your standards as a 'pro' photographer IF you are one, and either shoot the event as you think is best or let them find someone else. Your name WILL be on the photos and somebody outside the family 'may' see them and know who not to ever call. It's a choice of being a prostitute only for the money, or you striving to build a reputation or keep one, as the case may be.
Nov 7, 2011 15:51:18 #
foghornleg90 wrote:
I agree... if that couple SNAPSHOT was the 'best' ... (show quote)
Pros take the same pose time after timebecause it sales. Ive been doing the same pose of a girl leaning against a tree with a fuzzy background for 40 years and 90% of the customers buy that shot. Of course we do the new grange photos. We go to old buildings and bridges etc etc. The kid buy these shots. But the parents buy the old standards. Perhaps this wedding photographer took all the old shots that sell but did these to have something differant. If this was all they got it would be a differant story. As a pro you take what will sale or in the case of these pictures you do some that are differant or the customer thinks they are cheated. Amatures take what THEY want and like. - Dave
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