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Mar 13, 2020 10:17:47   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
sergio wrote:
use a monopod!

Why????

I hand hold my Pentaxes with ‘only IBIS’.

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Mar 13, 2020 10:36:48   #
Hip Coyote
 
“Tripod? I don’t need no stinking tripod!”

I use the Oly m4/3 system. The IBIS is good enough for me to take hand-held photos with one second shutter speeds and the photo being amazingly sharp. Recent trip to Africa I hand-held shots at 400mm (800 equivalent) and had great results. Inside churches I can use lower ISOs and have very good results (so long as there are not moving subjects in there! Even then it makes for interesting pics.)

One thing I have not seen in the forum is a discussion of using various braced shooting positions (think firearms marksmanship) or using stationary objects to rest against to ensure no movement. It’s very effective.

What I like about the system is I can switch from heavy Pro lenses to very light weight primes. It’s like having several systems.

The performance at high ISOs is not great. I try to stay under 1000. But, recently upgraded to Topaz DeNoise AI and have had very positive results. So I can venture into higher ISO land.

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Mar 13, 2020 10:42:09   #
moonhawk Loc: Land of Enchantment
 
mrpentaxk5ii wrote:
IBS is a great feature to have, I just added an older Panasonic GH4 from B&H for 600$ new, the GH4 does not have IBS, the G9 and newer bodies do so I picked up two lens, Panasonic 12-35 mm F 2.8 to use for stills & video and an Oly 12-100 mm F 4. both lens are stabilized and work great with the GH4. I will use this camera set up along with a Pentax KP and some Pentax / Sigma glass as my every day / travel cameras. Oly and Panasonic both have glass and bodies that are stabilized, they give about 6 stops combined, here is the catch. Oly & Panasonic are both Micro 4/3 so you can use a oly lens on a Panasonic body but the IBS can not be used if you use the stablization on the Oly glass. IBS has to be used with the camera makers glass and then you can use both together. IBS and Lens together works great but in night time photography nothing beats a tripod. I would choose a system based on what you can afford and the system that will most work best for your style of photography.
IBS is a great feature to have, I just added an ol... (show quote)


You won't get the advantage of both image stabilization systems with an Oly lens on a Panny body, or vice versa. You'll have to experiment to see which one will work best.

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Mar 13, 2020 10:53:57   #
moonhawk Loc: Land of Enchantment
 
I'll second the nod to Olympus. An om-1 mkII or mkIII will give you 6 to 7.5 stops sepending on body/lens combo. Many have claimed handheld shots of 1 second or more. This will depend on your technique and other factors, but i will simply say that I have gotten very sharp shots at shutter speeds i never would have imagined in the days before IBIS. I almost never carry a tripod anymore.

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Mar 13, 2020 11:05:07   #
xt2 Loc: British Columbia, Canada
 
BobBobThompson wrote:
I want to be carry less gear and be more spontaneous by using tripods less. What (Manufacturer and Model) mirrorless camera body & lens combinations provide the largest number of stops image stabilization? Olympus, Fugi, Pansonic? Some manufacturers claim as mush as a 7.5 stop benefit! Thanks in advance.


I see that Olympus, Sony, Canon, & Nikon all offer about 5 stops with their IBIS systems. The newest Fuji, the XT4 now ups the game to 6.5 stops. Wait a bit and they all will likely catch up though. So, perhaps more importantly, if all the “big boys” are similar other thanFuji, might be lens systems, colour and quality of product, ease of use, etc.?

Cheers!

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Mar 13, 2020 11:11:54   #
moonhawk Loc: Land of Enchantment
 
xt2 wrote:
I see that Olympus, Sony, Canon, & Nikon all offer about 5 stops with their IBIS systems. The newest Fuji, the XT4 now ups the game to 6.5 stops. Wait a bit and they all will likely catch up though. So, perhaps more importantly, if all the “big boys” are similar other thanFuji, might be lens systems, colour and quality of product, ease of use, etc.?

Cheers!


Oly has two cameras that have 6.5 stops, 7.5 with Oly OIS lenses.

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Mar 13, 2020 11:22:21   #
bleirer
 
xt2 wrote:
I see that Olympus, Sony, Canon, & Nikon all offer about 5 stops with their IBIS systems. The newest Fuji, the XT4 now ups the game to 6.5 stops. Wait a bit and they all will likely catch up though. So, perhaps more importantly, if all the “big boys” are similar other thanFuji, might be lens systems, colour and quality of product, ease of use, etc.?

Cheers!


No Canon's have IBIS yet. It is promised in the future, though.

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Mar 13, 2020 11:34:54   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
sergio wrote:
use a monopod!

Several years ago I was watching TV when I noticed our younger cat napping near me. I was concerned that any abrupt motion would awaken her, so I reached to the table holding our table light and got my Q-7. Then I put my arm out horizontally and took a photo of her in that awkward {for me} position. I noticed afterwards that the shutter speed was 1/4 second, but it was plenty sharp, thanks to the IBIS. Stabilization works!!!

https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-488536-1.html

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Mar 13, 2020 11:52:30   #
dhk
 
hand held, olympus omd em1 mkii



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Mar 13, 2020 12:21:58   #
moonhawk Loc: Land of Enchantment
 
dhk wrote:
hand held, olympus omd em1 mkii


Looks soft . What shutter speed?

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Mar 13, 2020 12:34:12   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
rehess wrote:
Why????

I hand hold my Pentaxes with ‘only IBIS’.


I hand hold my Canon F-1 with no IBIS or IS.

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Mar 13, 2020 12:36:08   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
Architect1776 wrote:
I hand hold my Canon F-1 with no IBIS or IS.

Perhaps you can hold your arm out to the side and take a photo at 1/4 sec with the Canon F-1
..... I cannot without IBIS.

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Mar 13, 2020 12:42:54   #
dasgeiss
 
Architect1776 wrote:
Looks like the Canon R5 has at least 7 stops when combining IS and IBIS together.


My Canon EOS Rebel T5 using image stabilization with a 55 mm lens took this head shot of an 84 year old neighbor. Love the IS feature Canon provides. Won't let me add the attachment for some reason??????

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Mar 13, 2020 12:47:45   #
RichardSM Loc: Back in Texas
 
Please post some of your fabulous trip pic’s into Africa it sound like you have some interesting captures.....



AFPhoto wrote:
In Africa last year I used an Ol y EM 1 Mk 11 in combination with The Oly 300mm f4 IS for what I believe was an advertised total of 7 Stops. I have shakey hands to begin with and most of my shots were taken in a cramped. moving jeep. My keeper rate was the highest I have ever achieved and the detail on animals 25 to 50 Meters away was tack sharp. The down side is that this was an expensive fixed focal length combo - so at one point when we had an elephant chase our jeep I was able to get an incredible shot of an elephant eye
In Africa last year I used an Ol y EM 1 Mk 11 in ... (show quote)

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Mar 13, 2020 13:35:26   #
Karl's Bird Photography Loc: Oregon
 
I'm using a Sony aR7iv + 1.4 TC + 200-600mm lens, which in crop mode is 1260mm. I haven't tested how far I can push the limits, but I'm handholding 1260mm at SS of 800 or sometimes less with excellent results. The lens OSS plus the IBIS works together, but I'm not sure what the numbers are.

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