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Mar 11, 2020 19:00:16   #
BebuLamar
 
DirtFarmer wrote:
The thing that everyone seems to miss is that mirror-up turns off the voltage to the sensor.

If you use mirror-up, it's impossible to get an image.


What you said is the mirror lockup feature for cleaning the sensor. There is also the mirror lockup function that only locks the mirror up for maximum 30 seconds. It's in the drive mode when you set to this then first press of the shutter release button raise the mirror and second press would take the picture. The mirror will times out and drop back down if you don't do the second press in 30 seconds.

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Mar 11, 2020 19:12:03   #
CO
 
The mirror up feature is really meant to eliminate vibration caused by the reflex mirror flipping up. I use that sometimes with my Nikon DSLR's when the camera is on a tripod. You won't be able to use it for photographing the concert as your viewfinder will be blacked out.

Some people have recommended the D5, D500, or D850. They're the first Nikons to have a processor dedicated to just the AF system. Their autofocus is rated to -4EV. I have a D500. It's autofocus is remarkable. It would be a big improvement from the D2X.


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Mar 11, 2020 20:04:22   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
In a DSLR, with the mirror up you can't see anything. I wouldn't use a mirror lock unless I was on a tripod. The mirror delay might be useful. You can set it to one second and hopefully you can hold the camera on the subject for that short time, avoiding mirror slap.

I have taken a lot of low light shots with my cameras and I have never noticed a problem with mirror slap. I'm using large bodies and lenses, which have enough mass to reduce the effect of the mirror.

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Mar 11, 2020 20:09:40   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
In a DSLR, with the mirror up you can't see anything. I wouldn't use a mirror lock unless my camera was on a tripod. The mirror delay might be useful. You can set it to one second and hopefully you can hold the camera on the subject for that short time, avoiding mirror slap. In my cameras it's called "Exposure Delay Mode", 1, 2, or 3 seconds.

I have taken a lot of low light shots with my cameras and I have never noticed a problem with mirror slap. I'm using large bodies and lenses, which have enough mass to reduce the effect of the mirror.

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Mar 11, 2020 20:38:04   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
DirtFarmer wrote:
In a DSLR, with the mirror up you can't see anything. I wouldn't use a mirror lock unless my camera was on a tripod. The mirror delay might be useful. You can set it to one second and hopefully you can hold the camera on the subject for that short time, avoiding mirror slap. In my cameras it's called "Exposure Delay Mode", 1, 2, or 3 seconds.

I have taken a lot of low light shots with my cameras and I have never noticed a problem with mirror slap. I'm using large bodies and lenses, which have enough mass to reduce the effect of the mirror.
In a DSLR, with the mirror up you can't see anythi... (show quote)

Nikon is clearly different from Pentax. I can easily take an “LV” photo with my Pentax K-30 or my Pentax KP: put in “LV”: use back LCD as viewfinder and take photo as usual.

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Mar 11, 2020 20:45:59   #
BebuLamar
 
rehess wrote:
Nikon is clearly different from Pentax. I can easily take an “LV” photo with my Pentax K-30 or my Pentax KP: put in “LV”: use back LCD as viewfinder and take photo as usual.


Not a difference between Nikon and Pentax. The D2X which is old and didn't have LV. Newer ones like D3 and newer do have LV.

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Mar 11, 2020 20:52:58   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
BebuLamar wrote:
Not a difference between Nikon and Pentax. The D2X which is old and didn't have LV. Newer ones like D3 and newer do have LV.

So, all the “cannot do” posts above should be prefaced by “the Nikon D2X “.

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Mar 12, 2020 06:15:31   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
mkazmier wrote:
Hi, I am getting back into concert photography.
I have been recommended by the editor to get a mirrorless camera system.
I have a DX2s which has mirror lockup.
Is it recommended to keep the mirror lockup during the shoot, if it is possible?
If not, may I have a recommendation?
Thank you,
Michael


What are your concerns? What is it that your editor requires you to go to mirrorless over your current equipment? Who is recommending keeping the mirror locked up during your shoot?
The ONLY advantage mirrorless has over your current equipment is that mirrorless has a silent mode, but during a concert, with all the noise, I do not understand the editor's request.
I shoot both mirrorless and DSLR. If I were shooting a concert with a DX2s, I could anyway get the same results (provided the right lens) as I could with a mirrorless camera.
I really do not understand where the editor is coming from. Many professional concert photographers use DSLR's and provide editors with superior images.

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Mar 12, 2020 07:32:51   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
Not only do I notice, but I also like it...along with whips. That and I don't like EVFs.
--Bob
CHG_CANON wrote:
Those who hold onto their DSLRs, do not notice their mirrors are their chains.

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Mar 12, 2020 07:48:38   #
mas24 Loc: Southern CA
 
I knew a photographer who would take photographs in night clubs. He charged a flat fee for a certain number of photos. Photos, that were used on websites to advertise the Rock n Roll Band. He owned a Nikon D750 DSLR. And, he never said the shutter click noise was a distraction. The last time I went to a concert, all I saw were Smartphones taking photos. Hundreds of them, all at once. All ages too.The first Nikon full frame camera I saw in a camera shop, in late 2008, was a D700 with 12.1 megapixels. Built like a tank. The first Nikon FF was the D3. One is for sale now on this forum.

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Mar 12, 2020 08:36:12   #
steve33 Loc: Yarmouth MA
 
mkazmier wrote:
Hey all,
Thank you so very much for the informatiion.
I have to download sooo many pages to get the manual online.
I appreciate the efforts. It did help.
Michael


There's an app called Nikon manual viewer. It's free. It has the D2x manual. You can download the manual to your phone. No printing required!

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Mar 12, 2020 08:46:46   #
steve33 Loc: Yarmouth MA
 
The D500 has a "mirror up mode". It also has a "quiet mode" which isn't really quiet. It just delays the mirror coming down so you don't get all the noise at once. It also silences the beep.Mirror up mode raises the mirror on first shutter release, then takes the shot on second press. This is to reduce camera shake while on a tripod, not really helpful in your situation.

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Mar 12, 2020 09:32:26   #
WJShaheen Loc: Gold Canyon, AZ
 
DirtFarmer wrote:
The thing that everyone seems to miss is that mirror-up turns off the voltage to the sensor.

If you use mirror-up, it's impossible to get an image.


I use MUP on my D7500 whenever I'm on a tripod or when attached to a telescope. I also use a mechanical remote trigger.

It works as advertised. Once you rotate the dial to the MUP position, you still have live view and all other functionality. The only difference from non-MUP shooting is when you trigger the shutter the mirror flips up out of the way and you need to trigger it again to capture the image. Of course, it won't work very well for birds in flight.

Bill in Gold Canyon, AZ

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Mar 12, 2020 10:09:09   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
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Mar 12, 2020 10:13:16   #
Tomfl101 Loc: Mount Airy, MD
 
On a Canon SLR the difference between silent mode and live view shooting is negligible. Both are better than standard mode and acceptable for all but the softest dialogue or musical scores. I do my best to stay a reasonable distance from patrons so as to minimize the distraction. I’m looking forward to true silent mode when I purchase the upcoming R5.

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