Tokina 100mm’s
Mar 8, 2020 16:17:59 #
I’ve been looking all over for reviews on the old Tokina 100mm f/2.8 AT-X Pro versus the new Tokina ATX-i 100mm F/2.8, but have failed to find any.
- Have any of you guys seen any reviews, or do you have personal experience of the two?
(I use the Nikon D500)
I did mail Tokina USA but didn’t render any reply... 😢
- Have any of you guys seen any reviews, or do you have personal experience of the two?
(I use the Nikon D500)
I did mail Tokina USA but didn’t render any reply... 😢
Mar 8, 2020 16:30:49 #
From Tokina: Leaving the honorable AT-X abbreviation, the letter "i" was newly added. "i" stands for "interactive", implying mutual communication between photographer and the lens.
The specs on the two lenses are identical, excluding anything I didn't notice ... Even the gallery images from the Tokina site feature both close-up and telephoto image where the 'i' is MACRO in the name. Looks like you can spend about $40 more for the 'i'.
The specs on the two lenses are identical, excluding anything I didn't notice ... Even the gallery images from the Tokina site feature both close-up and telephoto image where the 'i' is MACRO in the name. Looks like you can spend about $40 more for the 'i'.
Mar 8, 2020 16:41:23 #
Boris Ekner wrote:
I’ve been looking all over for reviews on the old Tokina 100mm f/2.8 AT-X Pro versus the new Tokina ATX-i 100mm F/2.8, but have failed to find any.
- Have any of you guys seen any reviews, or do you have personal experience of the two?
(I use the Nikon D500)
I did mail Tokina USA but didn’t render any reply... 😢
- Have any of you guys seen any reviews, or do you have personal experience of the two?
(I use the Nikon D500)
I did mail Tokina USA but didn’t render any reply... 😢
Tokina did a similar "update" of their 11-16mm lens. Basically, they just seem to change the housing, the optics appear identical. The added "i" stands for "interactive, implying mutual communication between photographer and the lens", whatever that means.
Mar 8, 2020 18:39:34 #
ricardo00 wrote:
Tokina did a similar "update" of their 11-16mm lens. Basically, they just seem to change the housing, the optics appear identical. The added "i" stands for "interactive, implying mutual communication between photographer and the lens", whatever that means.
It means the lens reads the photographer's mind...
One cannot stop progress and... Privacy loss... (Think badly of the of this big beautiful beautiful beautiful big lens and it will retaliate bigly!!! Damned this lens is too big for my hands... Obama made it! It is a democrat hoax! FAKE NEWS!!!)
(Sorry, I am bored)
Mar 8, 2020 21:18:23 #
amfoto1
Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
Regardless of what they might say it means, I think the reason Tokina has the new ATX-i designation is to differentiate their DSLR lenses from their recently introduced ATX-m series for mirrorless cameras.
So far, there is only one ATX-m lens, a full frame ATX-m 85mm f/1.8 available for Sony e-mount, but more are in the works...
ATX-m 23mm f/1.4 (Sony e-mount, APS-C)
ATX-m 33mm f/1.4 (Sony e-mount, APS-C)
ATX-m 56mm f/1.4 (Sony e-mount, APS-C)
ATX-m 23mm f/1.4 (Fujifilm X-mount, APS-C)
ATX-m 33mm f/1.4 (Fujifilm X-mount, APS-C)
ATX-m 56mm f/1.4 (Fujifilm X-mount, APS-C)
ATX-m 35mm f/1.8 (Sony e-mount, full frame)
ATX-m 50mm f/1.8 (Sony e-mount, full frame)
All the above are new lenses that will become available in summer or fall, if all goes according to plan.
Below are the current and planned ATX-i lenses that all appear to have cosmetic updates and be renamed. The specs of all of them are virtually identical to their AT-X Pro predecessors.
ATX-i 11-16mm f/2.8 (Canon EF-mount, Nikon F-mount*, APS-C, current)
ATX-i 100mm f/2.8 Macro (Canon EF-mount, Nikon F-mount*, full frame, current)
ATX-i 11-20mm f/2.8 (Canon EF-mount, Nikon F-mount, APS-C, future)
*Nikon versions are motorless, relying upon a focus drive motor built into the camera body, as found in D7000-series and higher models. Lenses will be manual focus only on Nikon D3000- and D5000-series cameras, as well as some older models that don't have an in-body focusing motor. (It's interesting that Tokina chose to update the motorless version of the 11-16mm. They also produced an AT-X "II" version of that lens, where the Nikon version has a built-in motor.)
Both AT-X Pro 100mm and ATX-i 100mm are 1:1 capable, use 9 elements in 8 groups, use a 9-blade aperture for a range from f/2.8 to f/32, have a minimum focus distance of 11.8" and an angle of view of 24 degrees. Both are not internal focusing (they increase in length when focused closer). Both have a distance/magnification scale, use 55mm filters and a Focus Limiter. And both use Tokina's unique "focus clutch" to shift the lens from auto focus to manual focus. This precludes overriding the AF manually. First the lens focus ring must be pulled backwards slighty to engage manual focus (turning the ring does nothing when set to AF). Functionally, they couldn't be more similar! I'd be pretty confident that any review of the AT-X would largely apply to the ATX-i version.
Besides the apparent cosmetic differences, the new ATX-i 100mm Macro is 50 grams lighter weight, but they are nearly identical size.
It appears the AT-X 11-16mm f/2.8 and ATX-i 11-16mm f/2.8 are virtually identical, too. It's even closer in weight... gaining 5 grams over its predecessor.
So far, there is only one ATX-m lens, a full frame ATX-m 85mm f/1.8 available for Sony e-mount, but more are in the works...
ATX-m 23mm f/1.4 (Sony e-mount, APS-C)
ATX-m 33mm f/1.4 (Sony e-mount, APS-C)
ATX-m 56mm f/1.4 (Sony e-mount, APS-C)
ATX-m 23mm f/1.4 (Fujifilm X-mount, APS-C)
ATX-m 33mm f/1.4 (Fujifilm X-mount, APS-C)
ATX-m 56mm f/1.4 (Fujifilm X-mount, APS-C)
ATX-m 35mm f/1.8 (Sony e-mount, full frame)
ATX-m 50mm f/1.8 (Sony e-mount, full frame)
All the above are new lenses that will become available in summer or fall, if all goes according to plan.
Below are the current and planned ATX-i lenses that all appear to have cosmetic updates and be renamed. The specs of all of them are virtually identical to their AT-X Pro predecessors.
ATX-i 11-16mm f/2.8 (Canon EF-mount, Nikon F-mount*, APS-C, current)
ATX-i 100mm f/2.8 Macro (Canon EF-mount, Nikon F-mount*, full frame, current)
ATX-i 11-20mm f/2.8 (Canon EF-mount, Nikon F-mount, APS-C, future)
*Nikon versions are motorless, relying upon a focus drive motor built into the camera body, as found in D7000-series and higher models. Lenses will be manual focus only on Nikon D3000- and D5000-series cameras, as well as some older models that don't have an in-body focusing motor. (It's interesting that Tokina chose to update the motorless version of the 11-16mm. They also produced an AT-X "II" version of that lens, where the Nikon version has a built-in motor.)
Both AT-X Pro 100mm and ATX-i 100mm are 1:1 capable, use 9 elements in 8 groups, use a 9-blade aperture for a range from f/2.8 to f/32, have a minimum focus distance of 11.8" and an angle of view of 24 degrees. Both are not internal focusing (they increase in length when focused closer). Both have a distance/magnification scale, use 55mm filters and a Focus Limiter. And both use Tokina's unique "focus clutch" to shift the lens from auto focus to manual focus. This precludes overriding the AF manually. First the lens focus ring must be pulled backwards slighty to engage manual focus (turning the ring does nothing when set to AF). Functionally, they couldn't be more similar! I'd be pretty confident that any review of the AT-X would largely apply to the ATX-i version.
Besides the apparent cosmetic differences, the new ATX-i 100mm Macro is 50 grams lighter weight, but they are nearly identical size.
It appears the AT-X 11-16mm f/2.8 and ATX-i 11-16mm f/2.8 are virtually identical, too. It's even closer in weight... gaining 5 grams over its predecessor.
Mar 9, 2020 10:14:40 #
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