Noise from Cameras is obnoxious as HELL !
Mar 5, 2020 11:56:21 #
That’s the sound of free enterprise and the first amendment. If that annoys you move to Russia or China. You’re kind you’re not welcome here
Mar 5, 2020 12:03:17 #
Stephan G wrote:
Were you calling in the co-ordinates? Jut asking.
Only when training Forward Observers.
An individual in the orchestra plays an instrument.
The conductor plays the orchestra.
Mar 5, 2020 12:19:30 #
dean100 wrote:
Sounds a lot like Pelosi, Schiff and Schumer standing in the back gnashing their teeth.
Here they are
Here they are
This is diverging greatly from "photographic" information. I will refrain from further commentary that does not fit the focus of this forum.
Mar 5, 2020 12:20:42 #
dean100 wrote:
It is annoying when so called "pros" need to shoot 10-12 frames per second for subjects standing still - they must be looking for that one perfect shot for their 40 x 60 canvas for their living room.
Actually they are looking for a change in expression that is unflattering to the speaker so they can use it to denigrate the person.
Mar 5, 2020 12:49:14 #
donrent wrote:
Of course it was a rangefinder and was mfg in the Fourties. I do not think that "view thru the lens" cameras were on the market back then.
You said you used camera in the 1950's.
Taken at face value, that could have included either the "Praktiflex"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Praktiflex
or the "Asahiflex", which even had a self-returning mirror.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asahiflex
because both had moving mirrors and both were available by 1954.
Since now you say that it was a 'rangefinder" camera, then of course it is quieter - since it has no mirror and its shutter is quiet - but I cannot imagine someone who is covering the President using one in this day and age.
Mar 5, 2020 12:50:52 #
dean100 wrote:
Sounds a lot like Pelosi, Schiff and Schumer standing in the back gnashing their teeth.
Here they are
Here they are
This comment belongs in the Attic.
It is totally inappropriate in this section.
Mar 5, 2020 12:51:43 #
Mar 5, 2020 13:11:45 #
Leitz
Loc: Solms
donrent wrote:
I was watching the Presidents televised meeting today with the Airline heads and could NOT believe how the click-clickey-click actually dominated the atmosphere of the room.
Totally obnoxious..........
WHY do cameras need a resounding C L I C K ?
They're electronically operated aren't they ?
Is that C L I C K created in the camera artificially ?
Taking wildlife picture would certainly welcome a little quietness .
Totally obnoxious..........
WHY do cameras need a resounding C L I C K ?
They're electronically operated aren't they ?
Is that C L I C K created in the camera artificially ?
Taking wildlife picture would certainly welcome a little quietness .
What's your point in polluting this forum with your whine?
Mar 5, 2020 13:22:09 #
SuperflyTNT wrote:
Surprising that someone who know so little about cameras would be on a photography blog. While most digital cameras are electronically controlled, they still use mechanical shutters. Some cameras also include an electronic shutter for quieter operation, but there are other trade offs.
Mar 5, 2020 13:22:09 #
rook2c4 wrote:
Partially to blame is the compressor/limiter on the microphone, which helps pick up the speakers' voices better - quieter sounds in the audio signal are boosted. Unfortunately, it boosts all other sounds too within the direction of the microphone, such as the clicking of camera shutters.
——It was not uncommon for judges in courtrooms a few years ago to restrict loud cameras. As a journalist covering America's longest murder trial, (serial killers, Leonard Lake/Charles Ng, 1993, '94/'95), over the 14-month trial, I shot many rolls of film with a Leica M4-P, which has a very muted shutter. Standing just a few feet away, Leica's are essentially silent.
Jack Ryan, the presiding judge, was emphatic about camera silence which can be very disruptive in a small courtroom. At one point during a witness's testimony he stopped the proceedings and asked a shooter in the back of the courtroom with with a brand-new motor-drive Canon and a lens the size of a TOW missile launcher to "… put a silencer on that clacker."
Mar 5, 2020 13:25:03 #
DirtFarmer wrote:
I don't recall that I made that much noise when I wound film.
<power winder>
Mar 5, 2020 13:34:38 #
bylinecl wrote:
——It was not uncommon for judges in courtrooms a f... (show quote)
I thought most courtrooms didn't allow photography - hence the courtroom artists.
Mar 5, 2020 13:36:06 #
Leitz wrote:
What's your point in polluting this forum with your whine?
The issue at the base is a valid query.
With the technology available today, why don't the video-graphers use specialized directional microphones to record the speaker at the dais, muffling the extraneous sounds from the "shooter's "group?
Or is the person at the mike using the noise akin to that of helicopter noise out in the garden?
Mar 5, 2020 13:39:20 #
rook2c4 wrote:
Partially to blame is the compressor/limiter on the microphone, which helps pick up the speakers' voices better - quieter sounds in the audio signal are boosted. Unfortunately, it boosts all other sounds too within the direction of the microphone, such as the clicking of camera shutters.
That’s a HUGE reason. You can hear the compressor turn up the volume, sometimes between words.
Also, a mic 3’ away picks up 9 times more noise than a mic 1’ away from a subject. Go to 10’, and the source is 1/100 as loud as it was at a foot. Poor signal to noise ratio combined with compression is a double whammy.
Mar 5, 2020 13:39:59 #
Mr Bill 2011
Loc: southern Indiana
Pablo8 wrote:
As a former 'Press Photographer' I sometimes felt ... (show quote)
Back in those days maybe they were "press photographers." These days of 24 hours per day news shows and fake news, I think many of the photographers simply blast away with their DSLRs in burst mode, hoping to get an embarrassing photo of the speaker making a gaff, swallowing a passing bug, or if outside, getting crapped on by a pigeon overhead.
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