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Feb 23, 2020 11:35:57   #
SoCal Dave
 
rgrenaderphoto wrote:
Here's a solution:

https://fotodioxpro.com/products/wpcore-nk1424

You need 145 mm filters, but it will cost you less than a new lens.

Filters: https://fotodioxpro.com/collections/145mm-round-filters

Here's Lee Filters solution:

https://www.leefilters.com/index.php/camera/system-sw150

A 145 mm Lee filter is about the size of a window.

I use the fotodiox product... Works perfectly for far less than a different lens while still allowing 14mm wide angle. I leave the adapter on at all times and just add the cpl as needed... Like any other lens.

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Feb 23, 2020 11:44:39   #
nadelewitz Loc: Ithaca NY
 
Imagemine wrote:
I would like to get some help choosing a ultra wide angle lens that will take filters , I already have a Nikon 14-24 f/2.8 which gives very good images but won't except any filters because of the bulbus front element . Does anyone out there have any suggestions , thanx in advance.


An "Ultra" wide angle lens, also known in the extreme as a fisheye lens, can/will have a rounded protruding front element. It can't get an ultra wide coverage if it doesn't. Like a fish.

Putting a filter on an ultrawide lens can/will cause vignetting.

You get to decide how wide you want to go.

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Feb 23, 2020 12:12:42   #
SoCal Dave
 
nadelewitz wrote:
An "Ultra" wide angle lens, also known in the extreme as a fisheye lens, can/will have a rounded protruding front element. It can't get an ultra wide coverage if it doesn't. Like a fish.

Putting a filter on an ultrawide lens can/will cause vignetting.

You get to decide how wide you want to go.


There is ZERO vignetting using the fotodiox system on the 14-24. The affixed mount is wide enough to hold the filter in front of the front element without touching it even though it is bulbous.

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Feb 23, 2020 12:17:07   #
nadelewitz Loc: Ithaca NY
 
SoCal Dave wrote:
There is ZERO vignetting using the fotodiox system on the 14-24. The affixed mount is wide enough to hold the filter in front of the front element without touching it even though it is bulbous.


Okay. That's one setup that works with this lens. I like to talk in general principles to educate folks on how things work and why. Don't get excited.

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Feb 23, 2020 12:20:54   #
SoCal Dave
 
Since the sender asked about this lens specifically I want him to understand that it does work in reality not hypothetically as to some other lens. It didn't seem clear from your post that you were speaking of other unspecified lenses, not the one he was asking about for which this system is an elegant solution to his needs.

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Feb 23, 2020 13:05:04   #
Barndog Loc: Tacoma
 
There are some companies that make filters/adapters for the 14-28. Fotodiox, Lee and a couple of others. You can do a YouTube search on filters for Nikon 14-28 to see how they work out.

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Feb 23, 2020 14:13:50   #
amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
 
Jeffcs wrote:
In reviewing above take a look at Tokina 11-16 they make 2 versions the ATX is sharper


The original poster is looking for an FX lens to use on their FX camera.

The Tokina 11-16mm is a DX lens, so isn't what they are looking for.

Plus, both Tokina ATX Pro 11-16mm and ATX Pro 11-16mm "II" use almost identical optics and render the same sharpness and image quality. The II has some changes to lens coatings, but the difference is imperceptible in images. The only significant difference between them in the Nikon mount is that the original 11-16mm is a "D-type" lens, without a built-in focusing motor... which means that lens can only autofocus on select Nikon cameras. The II version has an in-lens focusing motor, so is able to autofocus on additional Nikon cameras... such as the D3000-series and D5000-series, which don't have the in-camera focusing motor req'd by D-type lenses. (Note: There is almost no difference between the two versions in other mounts besides Nikon... In the other mounts offered, both versions have in-lens focus motors.)

Both versions of Tokina 11-16mm are "ATX Pro". And, in their day, both were the only ultrawide zooms for crop cameras with an f/2.8 max aperture. They also are both among the sharpest ultrawide zooms available. However, both are also very prone to problems with flare, which can often come into play when using lenses with such wide angle of view. They also have the narrowest range of focal lengths of any ultrawide zoom.

The Tokina 11-16mm were discontinued several years ago and superseded by the Tokina AT-X Pro 11-20mm f/2.8, which only comes in one version (which has a built-in focusing motor in all mounts). The new lens also solves some (but not all) of the flare problem and obviously offers a wider range of focal lengths. To my eye, the older 11-16mm appears slightly sharper at the widest setting, but when both lenses are zoomed to 13 and particularly to 16mm, the newer 11-20mm lens shows clear superiority.

All this is a moot point though, in this case, because the original poster is looking for an FX lens, and none of these Tokina fit the bill. They are all DX lenses.

Sigma offers a full frame capable 12-24mm and 14-24mm. Tamron has a similar 15-30mm. Tokina offers a 16-28mm FX. There are also some ultrawide, manual focus primes such as Rokinon/Samyang 14mm, Zeiss 15mm, Zeiss 18mm IRIX 11mm and IRIX 15mm. However, all these lenses have a protruding, convex front element, much like the Nikkor 14-24mm. So there's nothing to gain with any of them. They don't solve the original poster's problem with filters.

There are 16-35mm and 17-35mm lenses that can be used with standard, screw in filters. Those are about the widest able to do so. Both Nikon themselves and several third party manufacturers offer them. There also is a Venus Laowa 15mm f/4 Macro lens that can be used with 77mm filters. There are also Nikkor 20mm (AF) and Rokinon/Samyang 20mm (MF) that can use standard filters.

With any of these you might consider, look for reviews and info about images quality. The Nikkor 14-24mm is pretty hard to beat!

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Feb 23, 2020 14:52:08   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
Wanderer2 wrote:
The Irix 15mm is one of the few UWA lenses I could find when researching this situation that takes screw on threaded filters directly. They are big - 95mm. I haven't used one but reviews are generally good.



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Feb 23, 2020 15:11:06   #
billwald
 
A simpler solution might be a photo splicing program. A 2nd shot doesn't cost anything.

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Feb 23, 2020 15:19:42   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
Jeffcs wrote:
In reviewing above take a look at Tokina 11-16 they make 2 versions the ATX is sharper



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Feb 23, 2020 15:30:10   #
drmike99 Loc: Fairfield Connecticut
 
What filters does the OP propose to use?In the digital world the only two that are necessary are the circular polarizer and the NDs. Polarizers are a problem on ultra wide lenses for most uses and NDs are fairly restricted in use. It’s not like analog where you need a slew of B&W filters and color balancing filters. UV is not necessary in digital. And I hope he’s not considering a plain glass filter for “protection.” Seems to me this is a lot of discussion about a highly complex AND EXPENSIVE solution for a non-problem. The plain glass filter supporters and the smooth waterfall photographers will differ with this, but really there is limited need for a filter on an ultra wide lens for digital photos.

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Feb 23, 2020 15:52:30   #
cambriaman Loc: Central CA Coast
 
pesfls wrote:
Don’t know if it’s wide enough for you, but I have the Nikon 16/35 and it works a charm. The VR is quite good. Good luck sorting out your needs.


I concur.

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Feb 23, 2020 15:56:08   #
speters Loc: Grangeville/Idaho
 
Imagemine wrote:
I would like to get some help choosing a ultra wide angle lens that will take filters , I already have a Nikon 14-24 f/2.8 which gives very good images but won't except any filters because of the bulbus front element . Does anyone out there have any suggestions , thanx in advance.


You can certainly attach filters to said lens, just have to look in the right places. ALL lenses can be used with filters!!!! Check out FotoDiox.

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Feb 23, 2020 16:04:29   #
CatMarley Loc: North Carolina
 
drmike99 wrote:
Do you have a DX or an FX camera? That impacts your lens choice.


And are you looking for a zoom or a prime?

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Feb 23, 2020 17:13:50   #
russraman Loc: New York City
 
Imagemine wrote:
I would like to get some help choosing a ultra wide angle lens that will take filters , I already have a Nikon 14-24 f/2.8 which gives very good images but won't except any filters because of the bulbus front element . Does anyone out there have any suggestions , thanx in advance.


Save some money!

When I bought my Nikkor 14-24 f/2.8G a few years ago, the first thing I looked for was a way to protect the bulbous front element from scratches, dirt and cracks. I found Fotodiox's WonderPana, which provides extra protection to the lens as well as the ability to add filters.

While it looks a little peculiar when attached to the lens, it definitely provides protection you want to the front of your 14-24 lens... plus the option of using other special effects 145mm filters over the lens in addition to the skylight version.

Check out Fotodiox's listing for the WonderPana solution for ultra wide angle lenses, and you may decide not buy a whole new wide angle lens: https://fotodioxpro.com/collections/wonderpana/products/wpcore-nk1424



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