whfowle wrote:
I understand that the NASCAR promoters see their racing as a means to make money and crashes tend to get a lot of attention. So, they have little reason to change things. The lack of discipline among the drivers also contributes to the problem. I doubt they will make much of a change because it would effect their pocket book. Truly sad as well as dangerous. I watch Formula 1 quite a bit, and while they have some horrendous crashes, for the most part, it is not the plan. The organizers in F1 simply don't allow dangerous driving and nearly always fine the drivers or the teams severely when they drive dangerously.
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Formula 1 may quickly punish dangerous driving, but they have had their share of bad accidents. I think if you check in the last 10 years they have had more injuries per race than NASCAR. But Formula 1 has a much bigger problem.
They don't have competitive races. Four or five drivers are the only ones with a chance to win in any race. What's the point of running around a course for 80 laps where the only time the lead changes is if someone jumps someone else on a pit stop.
Formula 1 has a terrible problem with not being competitive and with no way for people to pass even when they are faster than the driver in front.
At least NASCAR has competitive races with lots of people who have a chance to win.
Also regarding bump drafting if you look close the vast majority of the wrecks are not caused so much by the bump drafting, but the blocking that happens in front of the individuals who are bump drafting.
Even though Ryan is talking to doctors and family, nothing else is being said about his condition. We can only hope and pray for a good outcome. I use to be a big nascar fan, but not after Stewart killed that young drive in Canada and is still praised and respected by the nascar community. Hope to see Ryan walk out of the hospital.
ltj123 wrote:
The idea of "stock car" is so far from true that the words should be removed from NASCAR. Realizing safety features required, but why not more "stock" features like speed rated street tires, actual body shape etc. But I'm old and remember races when "stock cars" were much more real...
Yeah when the fastest car won regardless of the engine. Now days everyone has to be the same, can't offend anyone by having a bigger or better motor, " it wouldn't be fair " .
jaymatt wrote:
So happy that Ryan Newman’s injuries sustained last night weren’t worse. It’s really scary when the black curtains go up.
NASCAR must do something about that terrible restrictor plate racing (I know, it’s a tapered spaced now). It’s follow the leader for about 180 laps (at Daytona) and then becomes a wreckfest. Real racing starts next week.
John, I agree completely. Time to do away with the restrictor plate. Let them race.
Jim Plogger wrote:
John, I agree completely. Time to do away with the restrictor plate. Let them race.
The cars are to fast without reduced horsepower.
Restrictor plates seemed like a quick easy way to reduce horsepower
but they affect engine performance in a negative way. The drivers hate them.
So how to reduce horsepower without causing that hated flat spot feeling.
Easy. Reduce engine size to 4 liters.
This way they'll feel like the 5.9 liter, but with less power.
No flat spot.
So they'll only make 650hp instead of the 5.9 litre 850hp.
Nascar died when Dale Earnhardt died.
Ryan has walked out of the hospital holding his daughters hands. He is taking off this weekend at Vegas.
I'm pretty sure the stock Ford Taurus off the showroom floor featured a manual transmission, V8 engine, and rear wheel drive. That'd be just like the ones that raced in NASCAR.
--Bob
ltj123 wrote:
The idea of "stock car" is so far from true that the words should be removed from NASCAR. Realizing safety features required, but why not more "stock" features like speed rated street tires, actual body shape etc. But I'm old and remember races when "stock cars" were much more real...
Why is the attendance down? They said all 101,000+ seats were sold, but what is really down is the TV viewership. To me the reason for that is because they have those 3 stupid segments or whatever they call them, AND they keep changing networks throughout the season. Just stick with one network and be done with it. For one thing, I can only get some of the networks they use now, which leaves me out otf the rest of the season. Also, I like the announcers on some networks, but not others. There is one that has a particularly high, squeeky voice – very annoying. Give me Darrel Waltrip and Jeff Gordan any time for announcers.
rmalarz wrote:
I'm pretty sure the stock Ford Taurus off the showroom floor featured a manual transmission, V8 engine, and rear wheel drive. That'd be just like the ones that raced in NASCAR.
--Bob
What will "stock car racing" do now? So many of the US auto manufacturers have dropped the full size sedan models in lieu of selling more pickups and SUVs. The only American automobiles I have found with a four door sedan for 2020 are Chevrolet Impala and Dodge Charger. I've owned a Ford Taurus since 2010, bought it new, and love it, even with its V6 and front wheel drive.
NASCAR = left turn, left turn, left turn ...
It's boring.
Apparently you've avoided acquaintance with the intricacies of making those left-hand turns. Couple that with strategies and I can see why you'd make that comment.
--Bob
gpc wrote:
NASCAR = left turn, left turn, left turn ...
It's boring.
I am not a NASCAR fan, for me it's F1 and drag racing. However, I have to respect NASCAR drivers because they are continually on the very edge throughout the entire race. On the very edge of spinning out on corners and on the edge from having others within inches and bumping into each other at 200+. Except for yellow or red flags, there is no relaxing. Even F1 drivers usually get to relax a little in places each lap.
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