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Opinion: Trump Believes Making America Competitive Depends on Slashing Americans’ Wages
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Feb 17, 2020 15:05:40   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
boberic wrote:
That's because those americans never heard of the word--save. The spend some of their money on things that they don't need. They are to used to get everything they want--right now. They never learned how to say no

Why don't you be honest with yourself?

You know dam well that without a living wage, NOBODY can build up a savings account cushion for emergencies!

Yes I do know what I'm talking about. I've been in those low paying jobs, having to work multiple jobs just to keep a roof over my head, food on the table, and gas in the tank to get to work.

"Keeping up with the Jonse's" is an affluent society habit!

Financial security does NOT exist in our society because employers are paying slave labor rates!

When potential employer cost of living increases are held to between 1% & 3%, employees never get ahead in their wage earnings.

The 2017 tax cut bill has NOT trickled down with employees being the beneficiaries of those corporate tax cuts.

The CPI jumped 2.9% between July of 2017 and July of 2018. The price of gas had jumped an overall 24.8% in 12 months as of August of 2018.

No one can get ahead when their wages are suppressed and don't cover the annual CoLA, or the CPI.

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Feb 17, 2020 15:16:22   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
usnpilot wrote:
This from the census bureau. Get your facts straight instead of just spouting garbage.

Real median household income in the United States increased 0.8% to $61,937 between 2017 and 2018. Median household income for the nation has been increasing every year since 2013, but the year-to-year increase from 2017 is smaller than the prior three years. Previously, increases ranged between 1.8% and 3.3% annually.

Median household income is not a true indicator of actual middle-class income. It's nothing more than a skewed average leaning towards the upper middle-class.

And as you stated, the increase fell in 2017, after trump took office!

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Feb 17, 2020 15:24:27   #
Rose42
 
Shutterbug1697 wrote:
Why don't you be honest with yourself?

You know dam well that without a living wage, NOBODY can build up a savings account cushion for emergencies!

Yes I do know what I'm talking about. I've been in those low paying jobs, having to work multiple jobs just to keep a roof over my head, food on the table, and gas in the tank to get to work.

"Keeping up with the Jonse's" is an affluent society habit!

Financial security does NOT exist in our society because employers are paying slave labor rates!

When potential employer cost of living increases are held to between 1% & 3%, employees never get ahead in their wage earnings.

The 2017 tax cut bill has NOT trickled down with employees being the beneficiaries of those corporate tax cuts.

The CPI jumped 2.9% between July of 2017 and July of 2018. The price of gas had jumped an overall 24.8% in 12 months as of August of 2018.

No one can get ahead when their wages are suppressed and don't cover the annual CoLA, or the CPI.
Why don't you be honest with yourself? br br You ... (show quote)


The truth is many DO NOT save because they spend irresponsibly. That is reality and has been for some time. Many buy homes and cars beyond their means, the big flat screen tvs along with the huge cable or satellite monthly bill, etc, etc, etc. When people who do that get more money they just spend more. Thats how it works. You can't blame everything on corporations.

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Feb 17, 2020 15:29:53   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
idaholover wrote:
Now there are more jobs than workers. Under Obama people actually dropped out of the job market which affected his unemployment stats in a false positive. Of course these were the people who said food stamps stimulated the economy and who's only tax cut was defunding SS by temporarily cutting payroll taxes.

What percentage of the available jobs are full-time jobs offering living wages with full benefits?

What percentage of the available jobs are 40 hour per week jobs without benefits, specifically contract or temporary jobs?

What percentage of the available jobs are only part-time without benefits?

Be honest with your answer, back it up with evidence!

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Feb 17, 2020 15:34:53   #
WNYShooter Loc: WNY
 
Shutterbug1697 wrote:
Why don't you be honest with yourself?

You know dam well that without a living wage, NOBODY can build up a savings account cushion for emergencies!

Yes I do know what I'm talking about. I've been in those low paying jobs, having to work multiple jobs just to keep a roof over my head, food on the table, and gas in the tank to get to work.

"Keeping up with the Jonse's" is an affluent society habit!

Financial security does NOT exist in our society because employers are paying slave labor rates!

When potential employer cost of living increases are held to between 1% & 3%, employees never get ahead in their wage earnings.

The 2017 tax cut bill has NOT trickled down with employees being the beneficiaries of those corporate tax cuts.

The CPI jumped 2.9% between July of 2017 and July of 2018. The price of gas had jumped an overall 24.8% in 12 months as of August of 2018.

No one can get ahead when their wages are suppressed and don't cover the annual CoLA, or the CPI.
Why don't you be honest with yourself? br br You ... (show quote)


Well if you only get ripped off working for others, why don't you just start your own business and pay yourself whatever you believe you're worth. Obviously you haven't been doing much to impress your employers who where paying you less than you believe you're worth, instead they have paid you what they see your worth as--perhaps you have an unrealistic assessment of your present marketable skills.

I did exactly that some years ago, and never looked back. Set my family up quite well I might add, have no debt, own three houses, and put two daughters all the way through Graduate School debt free, both now MD's. Between the wife and me, we could retire tomorrow quite comfortable, and I just turned 60. And the best part, I actually quit the two union locals I worked under when I went off to be my own boss. I literally doubled my income within two years after I left them.

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Feb 17, 2020 15:39:02   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
Cykdelic wrote:
Well done! You have exceeded expectations by giving us Literally the most ignorant post yet!

Somehow you failed to mention that the top 7 states in terms of “Estimated rate of homelessness in the United States in 2019, by state (per 10,000 population)” in 2019 are all heavily Democrat states.

It must have just slipped your mind, yes?

Oh, by the way, the following charts don’t really support your claim.....

You conveniently used a 10 year chart, when the article specifically referred to just the last THREE years.

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Feb 17, 2020 15:43:21   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
Checkmate wrote:
Wages have been going up. Today's paper will reach you in a couple of months up there in BF Egypt.

And your proof ofor your statement is what?

The cost of living has also been going up, what is the gap between wage increases and the Cost of Living Adjustment?

I'll give you a prime example, in 1996 an hourly rate of $16.34 would be worth $26.87 in 2020, just for the Cost of Living Adjustments in that time period. That doesn't take no consideration any merit increases.

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Feb 17, 2020 15:50:50   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
Kraken wrote:
I know facts have a hard time surviving and garnering any credibility in Trump’s truth-free political swamp, but let’s give asserting a few facts at the outset here the old college try.

FACT: Homelessness in the U.S. has increased for the third year in a row under Trump’s rule.

FACT: Despite low unemployment rates, poverty is increasing. West Virginia is a telling case study of how the jobs being created, particularly in retail and service industries, do not pay a living wage.

As Sean O’Leary, senior budget analyst for the West Virginia Center on Budget and Policy, told CBS News, “It’s cashiers, retail sales people, service employees — those are our fastest growing jobs, but those jobs don’t pay very well.”

Tara Martinez, executive director of a soup kitchen in West Virginia, elaborated, “”The jobs that are available are minimum wage and part time — they don’t have benefits.”

Poverty, homelessness, and despair continue, even for those who are working and seek work in this supposedly thriving economy.

FACT: An astounding percentage of those working in the wealthiest nation on earth live on the edge. One third of all workers make less than $12 per hour and 42% make less than $15 per hour. A third of the population has no savings, and another third has less than a $1,000 in savings, leaving little to no wiggle room for any unexpected expense, such as medical expense or routine car repair. Fourteen percent of Americans live in poverty, as reported by Forbes, a publication far from being a liberal rag. These are stressful conditions.

Now, you may wonder how the conditions detailed in these factoids can be consistent with the news of a supposedly thriving economy boasting historically low unemployment rates and record stock market levels.

It’s not really that hard to figure out, though, when we exercise our collective memory a bit and recall how Donald Trump forecast his plan for enhancing America’s competitiveness in the global economy and for, as the red hat too often reminds us, making America great again.

Let’s jump in our DeLorean, charge up the flux capacitor, and return to the Republican primary debate on the Fox Business Network in November 2015.

Trump claimed then that American wages were “too high.” And he echoed and underscored this position the next day in an interview on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe.”

When Mika Brzezinski asserted that “nobody can live” on the federal minimum wage of $7.50 an hour, Trump responded:

“We have to become competitive with the world. Our taxes are too high, our wages are too high. Everything is too high. We have to compete with other countries.”

“We have got to do something to compete with the rest of the world. Our country is not competitive anymore. That’s why we’re losing all of the manufacturers.”

We should not be surprised that so many Americans are suffering, that misery is on the rise, in this “thriving” economy, precisely because Trump sees the path to making the American economy great as entailing the worsening of many American’s individual economic well-being.

As the great writer and poet Maya Angelou tells us, “When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time.”

Any economist worth their salt will tell you that the goal of an economy should be to produce and distribute goods and services in the most efficient way possible to meet the needs of the people living within that economy.

Trump has shown no desire to meet the needs of the American people, and that is not in his economic plan.

Consider healthcare. Last year a federal judge in Texas threatened millions of Americans’ health care, declaring the entirety of the Affordable Care Act unconstitutional. The Trump administration effectively supported the suit, doing nothing to support or defend the federal law. As of yet, despite promises, Texas legislators have done nothing to develop a replacement should the Affordable Care Act disappear in Texas.

Supporting efforts to make healthcare less accessible is not creating an economy designed to facilitate Americans’ lives and help them meet their most basic needs.

And don’t forget, Trump cut food stamps to some 700,000 people. Is this policy consistent with cultivating an economy that affirms and supports human life? Not at all.

Trump’s economy is designed to transfer wealth to the top, not serve the needs of the American majority.

As I’ve written about elsewhere for PoliticusUsa, Trump’s tax cuts, for example, did not benefit most Americans. 60 percent of the total savings of the legislation went to the top 20 percent of earners, while the top 1 percent were gifted 17 percent of all the tax cut dollars. And companies that promised to re-invest the windfall they received when Trump slashed the corporate tax rate from 35 to 21 percent still engaged in massive layoffs.

What are we competing for? And with whom?

Why don’t we compete with all the other industrialized nations in terms of seeking to provide universal healthcare to Americans?

Why don’t we compete with Finland in seeking to provide a world-class public education?

Why don’t we compete with Denmark in terms of having a government-led charged to convert to largely green renewable energy sources?

If making America economically competitive means making American lives worse, let me suggest we are competing in the wrong arena for the very wrong prize.

Let’s start with the identifying the prize to be making sure Americans have a high quality of life characterized by access to adequate housing and healthcare, to quality public education, to clean water and air, to nutritious diets, to a healthy and vibrant public sphere and cultural life, and to a foreseeable future on this planet.

And let’s keep our eyes on that prize.

https://www.politicususa.com/2020/02/15/opinion-trump-believes-making-america-competitive-depends-on-slashing-americans-wages.html
I know facts have a hard time surviving and garner... (show quote)


FACT: $15/hr has one knocking on the door of being a 1%er.

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Feb 17, 2020 16:04:23   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
Rose42 wrote:
The truth is many DO NOT save because they spend irresponsibly. That is reality and has been for some time. Many buy homes and cars beyond their means, the big flat screen tvs along with the huge cable or satellite monthly bill, etc, etc, etc. When people who do that get more money they just spend more. Thats how it works. You can't blame everything on corporations.

The HEART of the problem rests solidly on the shoulders of the corporations!

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Feb 17, 2020 16:09:02   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
Shutterbug1697 wrote:
The HEART of the problem rests solidly on the shoulders of the corporations!


Why?

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Feb 17, 2020 16:09:06   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
WNYShooter wrote:
Well if you only get ripped off working for others, why don't you just start your own business and pay yourself whatever you believe you're worth. Obviously you haven't been doing much to impress your employers who where paying you less than you believe you're worth, instead they have paid you what they see your worth as--perhaps you have an unrealistic assessment of your present marketable skills.

I did exactly that some years ago, and never looked back. Set my family up quite well I might add, have no debt, own three houses, and put two daughters all the way through Graduate School debt free, both now MD's. Between the wife and me, we could retire tomorrow quite comfortable, and I just turned 60. And the best part, I actually quit the two union locals I worked under when I went off to be my own boss. I literally doubled my income within two years after I left them.
Well if you only get ripped off working for others... (show quote)

Well aren't you special!

What kind of work allows you such a large increase in income in enough time to put 2 kids through college without debt?

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Feb 17, 2020 16:11:06   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
Shutterbug1697 wrote:
The HEART of the problem rests solidly on the shoulders of the corporations!


Why?

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Feb 17, 2020 16:15:04   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
LWW wrote:
FACT: $15/hr has one knocking on the door of being a 1%er.

In who's dream?

What market has housing for under $500.00 per month that isn't a bedbug, roach, or rodent infested dwelling?

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Feb 17, 2020 16:25:51   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
LWW wrote:
Why?

If you keep repeating yourself, do you really think it'll get you a response any faster?

Corporations were the beneficiaries of the 2017 GOP tax cut, and they DIDN'T pass on their savings to their employees in wage increases.

A few companies gave their employees one time bonus, big whoopteedo! Those bonuses would have had more long term benefits if they were changed to wage increases instead!

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Feb 17, 2020 16:49:10   #
chrisscholbe Loc: Kansas City, MO
 
usnpilot wrote:
This from the census bureau. Get your facts straight instead of just spouting garbage.


Real median household income in the United States increased 0.8% to $61,937 between 2017 and 2018. Median household income for the nation has been increasing every year since 2013, but the year-to-year increase from 2017 is smaller than the prior three years. Previously, increases ranged between 1.8% and 3.3% annually.

As the rich get richer, the median will rise.

Doesn't mean the poor will have any more dollars to spend..or save.

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