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Feb 11, 2020 20:27:05   #
DeanS Loc: Capital City area of North Carolina
 
BebuLamar wrote:
I have a couple of good hand held meters. I do use the A mode and do use the built in meter when shoot in manual. However, if there is no meter built in I wouldn't bring the meter with me.


I believe you say that if your camera did not have a built-in meter, you would not use a manual meter. Did I read that correctly?

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Feb 11, 2020 20:39:04   #
usnret Loc: Woodhull Il
 
I always start by asking myself if DOF or freezing motion is more likely to give the best end result I'm looking for in any given scene. If its DOF, I set my aperture accordingly in aperture priority and let the shutter speed fall where it may and vice versa for when stopping motion matters more.

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Feb 11, 2020 20:46:40   #
BohemianPrince Loc: LaVale MD
 
Photography in my humblest opinion is a lifetime commitment. That being said do whatever you need to train your eye how to “really” see light and capture the decisive moment.


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Feb 11, 2020 21:08:45   #
BebuLamar
 
DeanS wrote:
I believe you say that if your camera did not have a built-in meter, you would not use a manual meter. Did I read that correctly?


Correct! I don't want to bring a meter. Too cumbersome for me.

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Feb 11, 2020 21:18:49   #
Dean37 Loc: Fresno, CA
 
I've always seen it as whatever it takes to get the picture you want. Bite, kick, scratch, whatever, but you are trying to get the picture you want. Who cares if you followed some conventional technique.

Isn't that doing the same thing as processing it in Photoshop or ? whatever, is that cheating?? For myself, I say do whatever works for you!!!!

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Feb 11, 2020 21:49:24   #
Wgbagwell
 
Agree wholeheartedly.. I find I use P. A and T and rarely use Auto or M.

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Feb 11, 2020 22:00:58   #
Lemon Drop Kid Loc: Greeley, CO
 
JohnH3 wrote:
I call it a photographer’s tool. I do it often when I plan to use a flash on a subject against a back lit background such as a sunset to set the correct exposure for the background/sunset. I then adjust my flash from there once I enter the settings and fine tune them to my liking for the background in manual mode. It generally gives me a good starting point. So if it is cheating, I am a cheater! Lol


A camera is indeed a too. Use your tools anyway you wish to get the result you want. Would a carpenter not use a tri square before sawing a board because he thought to do so was cheating?

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Feb 11, 2020 22:20:17   #
DeanS Loc: Capital City area of North Carolina
 
BebuLamar wrote:
Correct! I don't want to bring a meter. Too cumbersome for me.


Then you are using built-in facilities.

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Feb 11, 2020 23:02:07   #
fstoprookie Loc: Central Valley of California
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Although you mention using Auto, note that P (Professional, sometimes mistakenly called Program-Auto) is exactly the same as 'Auto' with the ability for you to dynamically adjust those camera-determined settings. Say the camera selects f/5.6, the human Professional can dial to f/3.5, available with their professional f/2.8 lens, and the camera dynamically adjusts the shutterspeed and / or ISO to maintain the same exposure. If you have some sort of fetish about counting images, this may be the approach to consider.

What is important is that you achieve the image you desire. No cares, no one on UHH, not your grandmother, not your life-coach, NO ONE cares how many images you took. We all only care about the final result you achieve.
Although you mention using Auto, note that P ( i P... (show quote)


Amen

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Feb 11, 2020 23:08:35   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
When you become one with your camera, the magic begins.

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Feb 12, 2020 04:51:50   #
John Sh Loc: Toronto, Australia
 
If, as you say, you have an " above average" understanding of the craft, one would expect that the appropriate settings for a particular shot would be second nature to you.

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Feb 12, 2020 05:34:03   #
BebuLamar
 
DeanS wrote:
Then you are using built-in facilities.


As I said I use the built in meter if it's available. If it's not available I use no meter instead of bringing a meter with me.

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Feb 12, 2020 08:33:34   #
MrGNY Loc: New York
 
evan_moor wrote:
Hello. I have a question. I have an above average understanding and experience with photography and my question is- Is it "Cheating" to take a picture on Auto to see the best settings the camera would choose for the scene and then adjust my Manual settings to get the look I want?

I usually tend to like the warmer tones and rustic/B&W look. One side of me says that the end goal is to get a good picture that expresses what you see, but the other side says to shoot away.

Why take 10-15 pictures if it can be done in 5?

Any thoughts?
Hello. I have a question. I have an above average ... (show quote)


Nothing wrong with how you're doing it. This will give you a start off point, after a while you will just shoot in manual and not even put the camera in auto. You are the one taking the photo and the one with the vision, how you get to the final result doesn't matter as long as you like it.

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Feb 12, 2020 09:17:24   #
aellman Loc: Boston MA
 
evan_moor wrote:
Hello. I have a question. I have an above average understanding and experience with photography and my question is- Is it "Cheating" to take a picture on Auto to see the best settings the camera would choose for the scene and then adjust my Manual settings to get the look I want?

I usually tend to like the warmer tones and rustic/B&W look. One side of me says that the end goal is to get a good picture that expresses what you see, but the other side says to shoot away.

Why take 10-15 pictures if it can be done in 5?

Any thoughts?
Hello. I have a question. I have an above average ... (show quote)


It's not cheating. If one were to follow that line of reasoning, a light meter could be considered cheating, because a veteran photographer should be able to accurately estimate exposure based on knowledge and experience. Anything you do with your camera that doesn't hurt someone else should be just fine. "Don't worry; be happy!" >Alan

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Feb 12, 2020 09:18:16   #
olddog Loc: louisville ky
 
rmalarz wrote:
I find that Auto can be very misleading. Understanding the capabilities of one's camera should be the first step. However, many do not like the concept of rigorous controlled testing. Once one does have a good grasp of their camera's capabilities, it becomes a one and done approach. Why take 5 when one will suffice?
--Bob


Bob had the best answer. My first job was with a post card company in the 1960's and I used a 5x7 view camera. I was only allowed to take one image. All my jobs were on location, so returning for a reshoot was out of the question. Good advice Bob.

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