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Jan 26, 2020 13:30:15   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
You mentioned not having EF lenses already. Your best bet is an EOS R / RP with the 24-105L RF lens and the EF/EF-S adapter.

But, if you can hold your gear lust for a moment longer, consider whether you're capturing your images in RAW and processing with professional-grade software? Is an urge for a new body and lens(s) the area that is most likely to yield improved results with your current body, or should you be considering other ideas that could yield more impact with less cost?

From another FF discussion vs crop today, here's two examples of cone flowers, about 6-years apart. The lighting is different as are the EF macro lenses used. One was captured in JPEG, the other RAW, both processed in LR6 and output as 2048-pixels on the longside as JPEGs. You can launch each attachment in a separate tab (or download) and view both full screen and zoomed to the pixel level.

Are there any differences? Where? Are the differences from the light, or the aperture choice, or the lens? Without looking at the EXIF, could you say which came from the XTi and which from the 5DIII?

Don't let the peer pressure and similar sensor size and brand competitive nonsense that predominates UHH influence your own decisions regarding your own unique needs.

Coneflower 1
Coneflower 1...
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Coneflower 2
Coneflower 2...
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Jan 26, 2020 13:55:04   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
You mentioned not having EF lenses already. Your best bet is an EOS R / RP with the 24-105L RF lens and the EF/EF-S adapter.

But, if you can hold your gear lust for a moment longer, consider whether you're capturing your images in RAW and processing with professional-grade software? Is an urge for a new body and lens(s) the area that is most likely to yield improved results with your current body, or should you be considering other ideas that could yield more impact with less cost?

From another FF discussion vs crop today, here's two examples of cone flowers, about 6-years apart. The lighting is different as are the EF macro lenses used. One was captured in JPEG, the other RAW, both processed in LR6 and output as 2048-pixels on the longside as JPEGs. You can launch each attachment in a separate tab (or download) and view both full screen and zoomed to the pixel level.

Are there any differences? Where? Are the differences from the light, or the aperture choice, or the lens? Without looking at the EXIF, could you say which came from the XTi and which from the 5DIII?
You mentioned not having EF lenses already. Your b... (show quote)



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Jan 26, 2020 13:56:00   #
ltj123 Loc: NW Wisconsin
 
Really like my 6D2, lucky me had kit with most EF lenses, but sold/gave away my EFS lenses.
Had XT then T1I and lastly 7D2. The 6D2 is easy to use in any mode, just cannot find any real issues to complain about, do lots of landscapes and some portrait...

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Jan 26, 2020 13:58:26   #
IDguy Loc: Idaho
 
Keith S wrote:
Hi All UHH Members,

I am thinking about moving from my Canon t2i to a full frame camera. I can't spend more than about 2k. My current lenses are only good for my t2i, so everything requires change.

I am asking for suggestions that fit into the $2k catagory. Of course maybe a package deal for starters.

I like my t2i but am not set on staying with canon. BTW I shoot mostly outdoors and landscape and nature. I am very novice at this.

Thanks for your suggestions in advance.

Keith
Hi All UHH Members, br br I am thinking about mov... (show quote)


Get the latest refurb you can find.

Nikon refurbs are like new. I don’t know about Canon.

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Jan 26, 2020 14:02:26   #
IDguy Loc: Idaho
 
rstrick2 wrote:
Check out the Micro 4/3 cameras


Huh? That is opposite the OP’s request.

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Jan 26, 2020 14:04:06   #
IDguy Loc: Idaho
 
GKarl wrote:
I am contemplating the same change. However, after looking at what the Z50 can do and at the two lens bundle cost of less than $2000 and a 30-day money-back trial. I believe I am going to pull the trigger on that setup.


It is APS-C.

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Jan 26, 2020 14:04:38   #
DeanS Loc: Capital City area of North Carolina
 
Wonder what the reservations are you have heard abt the Canon RP. I think that is on special right now for abt $1K, including the EF adapter. Pair that with a refurb EF 24-105 F4 and you will cover a lot of territory.

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Jan 26, 2020 14:08:24   #
rond-photography Loc: Connecticut
 
JD750 wrote:
If you are a novice, your equipment is not holding you back and spending more money will not improve your results. Keep shooting with what you have and keep saving your money. When you can identify a concrete area where your equipment is holding you back then and only then spend money to upgrade.



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Jan 26, 2020 14:52:18   #
speters Loc: Grangeville/Idaho
 
Keith S wrote:
Hi All UHH Members,

I am thinking about moving from my Canon t2i to a full frame camera. I can't spend more than about 2k. My current lenses are only good for my t2i, so everything requires change.

I am asking for suggestions that fit into the $2k catagory. Of course maybe a package deal for starters.

I like my t2i but am not set on staying with canon. BTW I shoot mostly outdoors and landscape and nature. I am very novice at this.

Thanks for your suggestions in advance.

Keith
Hi All UHH Members, br br I am thinking about mov... (show quote)


About a month ago, when everything was on sale, you could have gotten the 5D M IV for that amount!

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Jan 26, 2020 15:09:06   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
Keen wrote:
This is why I went with Nikon. Crop frame Nikons, and Full Frame Nikons, can use the same lenses. I started out with a Crop Frame camera, and bought mostly Full Frame lenses for it. When I moved up to a Full Frame camera it could use the lenses, and batteries, I already had. Canon is another story. When I learned how incompatible the Canon Crop Frame system was with the Canon Full Frame system, I decided that Canon does not exist as far as I am concerned. I have heard nothing new to change my mind. Sites like this, Youtube, etc, will give you advice about which Canon items are allegedly worth owning. Since you have to change anyway-from what you currently have-consider changing to a Nikon DSLR system. The F Mount cameras will be around for awhile yet, but will be dropping in price as the Z Mount stuff begins to catch on. Even now you can get old Ai, Ai-S, AF, and AF-D, lenses for Nikon cameras such as the D750. One AF lens-from the film camera days-cost me $29.00...for a 28-80mm lens that still works great on my DSLR. An older 70-300mm lens cost me just $79.00. You won’t get bargains like that on Canon gear.
This is why I went with Nikon. Crop frame Nikons, ... (show quote)


I second the suggestion to Nikon since he will be getting all new/different everything with one concern. There are compelling reasons to stay with Canon - and it has to do with lenses - Canon has some exceptionally great lenses that are just a great reason to buy Canon - the 100-400 II, 16-35 III, 24-105 II, 35 1.4 II, and a few others.

On the other hand, a factory refurbished D810 is $1800, and used you can find a nice clean one with low shutter count for around $1200, which is the way I would go.

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Jan 26, 2020 16:09:46   #
gouldopfl
 
I have a 5 DS and an EOS-RP. The RP is fine for an upgrade from what you are using and has most of the same features as the R. It even has in camera focus bracketing the R doesn't have. I have used all of my EF lenses with it for good quality. I'm personally going to wait to see what the 2 higher end EOS R cameras will have on them. The only thing is the EOS R doesn't have the highest frames per second but unless you are doing birds it will be fine.

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Jan 26, 2020 16:31:12   #
ronpier Loc: Poland Ohio
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
You mentioned not having EF lenses already. Your best bet is an EOS R / RP with the 24-105L RF lens and the EF/EF-S adapter.

But, if you can hold your gear lust for a moment longer, consider whether you're capturing your images in RAW and processing with professional-grade software? Is an urge for a new body and lens(s) the area that is most likely to yield improved results with your current body, or should you be considering other ideas that could yield more impact with less cost?

From another FF discussion vs crop today, here's two examples of cone flowers, about 6-years apart. The lighting is different as are the EF macro lenses used. One was captured in JPEG, the other RAW, both processed in LR6 and output as 2048-pixels on the longside as JPEGs. You can launch each attachment in a separate tab (or download) and view both full screen and zoomed to the pixel level.

Are there any differences? Where? Are the differences from the light, or the aperture choice, or the lens? Without looking at the EXIF, could you say which came from the XTi and which from the 5DIII?

Don't let the peer pressure and similar sensor size and brand competitive nonsense that predominates UHH influence your own decisions regarding your own unique needs.
You mentioned not having EF lenses already. Your b... (show quote)


Very good points.

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Jan 26, 2020 16:32:09   #
GKarl Loc: Northern New Hampshire
 
IDguy wrote:
It is APS-C.


I am aware of that. But, the Z50 high ISO quality and color rendition, as well as significantly smaller size advantages, make it an interesting option.

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Jan 26, 2020 16:39:59   #
Blair Shaw Jr Loc: Dunnellon,Florida
 
Keith S wrote:
Hi All UHH Members,

I am thinking about moving from my Canon t2i to a full frame camera. I can't spend more than about 2k. My current lenses are only good for my t2i, so everything requires change.

I am asking for suggestions that fit into the $2k catagory. Of course maybe a package deal for starters.

I like my t2i but am not set on staying with canon. BTW I shoot mostly outdoors and landscape and nature. I am very novice at this.

Thanks for your suggestions in advance.

Keith
Hi All UHH Members, br br I am thinking about mov... (show quote)


You're goona have to shop the used/refurb'd markets for $2K.......the lenses alone can run that much and the bodies (depending?) about the same...so take tour time and shop everywhere for a good used set of items.....possibly someone unloading their collection due to health or financial difficulties....not an easy trick to pull-off.

You could just upgrade to a more advanced cropper instead and just invest in better glass and even get a better crop factor starting-off........? Hopefully somebody ,here ,may have an offer for you and solve your problems quickly.....good luck Keith.

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Jan 26, 2020 16:43:55   #
rcarol
 
Blair Shaw Jr wrote:
You're goona have to shop the used/refurb'd markets for $2K.......the lenses alone can run that much and the bodies (depending?) about the same...so take tour time and shop everywhere for a good used set of items.....possibly someone unloading their collection due to health or financial difficulties....not an easy trick to pull-off.

You could just upgrade to a more advanced cropper instead and just invest in better glass and even get a better crop factor starting-off........? Hopefully somebody ,here ,may have an offer for you and solve your problems quickly.....good luck Keith.
You're goona have to shop the used/refurb'd market... (show quote)

There are several new FF cameras with kit lenses available for less than $2K. See some previous posts.

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