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Jan 22, 2020 11:07:40   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
AntonioReyna wrote:
The Pellix was groundbreaking with its stationary mirror, followed many years later by Sony.



Then subsequently used in high speed film cameras like the high speed F-1 used at the Olympics. No one else had.

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Jan 22, 2020 11:08:01   #
xt2 Loc: British Columbia, Canada
 
Hereford wrote:
So you think Nikon and Sony are out-innovating Canon ??? Maybe not.


Here we go once again... lots of patents could mean true innovation or perhaps a cautious R & D division. Gotta love Canon, Nikon, Sony, Fuji, Olympus, Panasonic and the list goes on. As far as “better”... that’s always in the eye of the beholder rather than the Patent Office.

Cheers!

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Jan 22, 2020 11:18:52   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
f8lee wrote:
Why, that proves it! Canon really is the bees' knees! After all, a flak in Canon's PR department couldn't possibly have an agenda when writing that wonderful description, right? Nah...

I mean, Canon invented the concept of 35MM film shooting - oops, that was Oskar Barnac. Oh,wait, Canon invented the concept of the SLR! Oops, that was some guy in Russia, and then Exacta and others just copied him. And Canon's rugged reliability was legendary - the Nat Geo photographer who snuck his camera into Saudi Arabia (I believe) was, as the story goes, using Canon gear. No, that was Nikon.

Canon makes some fine gear, to be sure. But Canon's marketing department works overtime to generate buzz, and gives cameras to the sideline pros in order to get those white telephoto lenses into the eys of the unwashed masses to convince them that, well Canon is just better than everyone else. So tooting the horn of "they have great PR!" does little to actually help users become better at the craft of photography. But I guess it makes some folks just feel better about themselves for owning the "best". I only hope those folks also own Ford vehickels, since by the same logic those are also the best and obviously make their drivers superior.
Why, that proves it! Canon really is the bees' kne... (show quote)


Yep, all those pros that you see at every news conference and pro sports game are shooting those big white lenses because of the Canon marketing department. The fact is that all the major manufacturers are making fine cameras today, but it wasn’t marketing that allowed Canon to dominate the pro market - it was their innovative product development. In the 60s, Nikon dominated the pro market, but Canon introduced the AF EOS system, and THAT is what changed the pro landscape.

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Jan 22, 2020 11:37:05   #
Markag
 
mwsilvers wrote:
I see a contentious argument looming over this by the usual crowd. How fun.


Isn't Canon really a lens manufacturer that happens to make cameras, among other things?

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Jan 22, 2020 11:41:24   #
Nicholas DeSciose
 
The new Nikon Z7 system extraordinary accomplishment for photography A whole new concept and cameras and lenses

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Jan 22, 2020 11:42:36   #
f8lee Loc: New Mexico
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
When you think all the brands are the same, you own the wrong brand.


And the bigger, more important, point is - when you think the brand matters in terms of the quality of your photography, you just don't get it at all.

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Jan 22, 2020 11:44:05   #
FotoHog Loc: on Cloud 9
 
f8lee wrote:
Of course, using the same logic of "mo' patents means mo' better products" the we all need to ditch our vehicles and buy Fords

https://fortune.com/2019/01/08/ford-tops-amazon-google-most-patents/

And those of you with Ford vehicles are obviously the best drivers!


TOUCHE !

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Jan 22, 2020 11:49:02   #
FotoHog Loc: on Cloud 9
 
AntonioReyna wrote:
Canon or Nikon. I can't decide.


Based on the background they look pretty even !



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Jan 22, 2020 11:53:20   #
Cmbtvet Loc: Elmira, NY
 
AntonioReyna wrote:
Canon or Nikon. I can't decide.


Normally I would choose Nikon, but I this case I'll pick both lol

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Jan 22, 2020 11:53:35   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
Nicholas DeSciose wrote:
The new Nikon Z7 system extraordinary accomplishment for photography A whole new concept and cameras and lenses


???
Have you ever heard of Sony?
The Z is a rebranded Sony.

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Jan 22, 2020 12:06:45   #
nadelewitz Loc: Ithaca NY
 
CO wrote:
Not sure about that. Nikon developed the automatic AF fine tuning feature found in the D5, D500, and D850. I have a D500. It works great - no test targets needed. AF fine tuning can be done in the field at any camera to subject distance. I don't think Canon has that yet.


Picking one specific feature that one brand has does not speak to an overall pattern of innovation.
Sony has THIS!
Lumix has THAT!
Pentax does THIS better!
Nikon does......!
Canon does.....!
Fords have this option!
Chevy has THIS option!

You will never end one-upmanship. Why not just let everyone like what they like, as long as they can get it?

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Jan 22, 2020 12:09:53   #
AntonioReyna Loc: Los Angeles, California
 
So true, to each his own. All the cameras out there today will take great pictures, use what you like.

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Jan 22, 2020 12:46:32   #
FotoHog Loc: on Cloud 9
 
Rumor has it that member CHG_CANON can tell if a photo was taken by Canon or by Nikon just by looking at it! . . .

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Jan 22, 2020 12:55:22   #
rcarol
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Thanks for that! Before I buy any product, I check with the US Patent Office to see how many patents they've filed.

Side note: Many companies buy up hundreds of patents. Then they have their lawyers look for someone to sue over patent infringement. Anything to make a buck.


Your implication is that this is common practice with Canon and to that extent, you do this company a huge disservice.

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Jan 22, 2020 12:59:24   #
EdR Loc: Gig Harbor, WA
 
AntonioReyna wrote:
Canon or Nikon. I can't decide.


It looks like in this case the Canon is giving you better coverage😁

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