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Jan 10, 2020 13:10:16   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
elliott937 wrote:
I'm posting this under "photography" since the weight of a camera seriously comes up far more often with the advent of mirrorless DSLR. And I understand that. But here's a point I'd like to make.

Ten years ago, when I taught and also broadcasted at a local radio station, on one day, I arrived an hour early. The station was on the campus of a local college, with silk smooth private street. So I brought my roller blades, and enjoyed myself before going into the building. I carried them into the studio, to a shocked announcer, 15 years younger, who ask "were you really skating on those?" Yes, was my response. He replied with "I know I'm too old to be skating on roller blades, and you certainly are too old to do that!"

To him I asked: "Did you buy a book on AGES, where each chapter tells you what you can do and can no longer do? And you believe what you read?"

As we grow older, we should not be in a super hurry to stop doing what we enjoy doing, from skating and from carrying a DSLR that we've carried for years earlier. Yes, I've stopped climbing a 20 foot ladder to clean gutters. But instead of using a snow shovel, I now use a snow blower. I'm in no hurry to give into "Mother Nature", only because others might suggest we should. Keep doing what you enjoy. My doctor reminds me that us "older folks" naturally grow weaker with our upper body muscles, and we should actually use those muscles more than before. I think of that every time I pick up my 5DII with it's battery back.

Let's exercise more, not less.
I'm posting this under "photography" sin... (show quote)


Here, here!!!!!


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Jan 10, 2020 13:33:34   #
Curmudgeon Loc: SE Arizona
 
sabfish wrote:
...As we age, it is sensible to make adaptations that ease our passage into old age...


NO. Do not ease your passage into old age, fight it tooth and nail with every fiber of your being! Everything you give up to ease the passage is a thing you will never get back. I have osteo and rheumatoid arthritis almost everything hurts my hands, knees and shoulders but if I don't use them before long I won't be able to.

Camera too heavy? Probably it's not the camera it's that 5 pound lens you attach to it.

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Jan 10, 2020 13:42:32   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
One last shot. Two things that have no bearing on this. Age and mirrorless. Age - stay in shape and exercise and you can handle the relatively small weight of most full frame cameras and gear. Mirrorless does not equal lighter. Smaller sensor and the related lenses can mean lighter, but simply switching to mirrorless will not, if you stay in the same sensor size.

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Jan 10, 2020 13:46:45   #
brooklyn-camera I Loc: Brooklyn, NY
 
At age 74 and still going up and down the sidelines of semi-pro football, plus moving so I don't get run over. Shooting with the 7DMKII, battery pack, 70-200mm f/2.8 L II USM no monopod.... hand held. Also shoot hockey from the bench, need to stay awake for sure.

On blood thinners so I have to pay attention to what is going on around me all the time. Have neuropathy and can't feel feet that well anymore, had to have hand controls put in car for safety reasons. Doing stairs, well that's another story. VA gave me canes and a walker which I use to hold my pants on.

Point is that if I can still do the sidelines and bench shooting I will continue to do so. I can do it safely and I enjoy the comradery with the players, coaches and other photographers. Plus it's go exercise, I'm in Afib but doing well and you can always dress for the weather.

Had some players (age 25-30) kid me about my age, my answer is lets see what you are doing at age 74?


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Jan 10, 2020 13:49:53   #
Xbander Loc: South Mississippi
 
As the gear grows get a bag with wheels for the main going and a smaller pack to pick as needed.

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Jan 10, 2020 13:57:00   #
ORpilot Loc: Prineville, Or
 
While working on my BFA in Photography (1970s) I roamed around with 70+ lb of 8x10 camera all over the hills around Athens Ohio. Not any more. Now I carry my Bridge Camera or my FF Sony depending on where I'm going and what I am shooting. Granted there is nothing like looking at a print from an 8x10 or any other size view camera, but I am satisfied with my 35s. With 50 years of photo experience, I generally know exactly what equipment to take. What I take is totally dependent of the final results I want. I recently did a test with my Mamyia 645 lenses on a Fujifilm GFX and came to the conclusion that I don't need my Mamyia 645 any more because the FF Sony is as good with the exception of the Mamyia 145 soft focus lens. That specialty lens just makes dreamy images. At this point in life I am much better at my choices than in my youth. Yes, less weight is better in most cases. Heavy tripods are better at stabilization than whimpy light ones. Note: I do have both carbon fiber and aluminum. Camera weight does not directly corilate to better photos. Sensor size and mp are deciding factors not weight. Lenses are the main weight now. Fast lenses have more glass. More glass is more weight. Some lenses are housed in brass vs composite plastics. Metal is like tanks but plastics are less subject to temperature expansion and contraction. If I could have only one camera it would be the Sony RX10. I have a show room of cameras that I feel do each job the best. Everything from my bridge camera to a 4x5 and a boat load of lenses. I wouldn't even think of taking the 4x5 to the wildlife refuge to shoot birds. But I would take my bridge camera to the Grand Canyon. I prefer my Sony a99ii for landscapes. I prefer my Sony a7iii for bird shooting. But it's a toss up between the a7s and the a7iii for milky way shots. We all have our likes and dislikes.

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Jan 10, 2020 13:58:34   #
Photoguy120
 
One never knows what the younger generation thinks or what they think they know.

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Jan 10, 2020 14:00:25   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
elliott937 wrote:
I'm posting this under "photography" since the weight of a camera seriously comes up far more often with the advent of mirrorless DSLR. And I understand that. But here's a point I'd like to make.

Ten years ago, when I taught and also broadcasted at a local radio station, on one day, I arrived an hour early. The station was on the campus of a local college, with silk smooth private street. So I brought my roller blades, and enjoyed myself before going into the building. I carried them into the studio, to a shocked announcer, 15 years younger, who ask "were you really skating on those?" Yes, was my response. He replied with "I know I'm too old to be skating on roller blades, and you certainly are too old to do that!"

To him I asked: "Did you buy a book on AGES, where each chapter tells you what you can do and can no longer do? And you believe what you read?"

As we grow older, we should not be in a super hurry to stop doing what we enjoy doing, from skating and from carrying a DSLR that we've carried for years earlier. Yes, I've stopped climbing a 20 foot ladder to clean gutters. But instead of using a snow shovel, I now use a snow blower. I'm in no hurry to give into "Mother Nature", only because others might suggest we should. Keep doing what you enjoy. My doctor reminds me that us "older folks" naturally grow weaker with our upper body muscles, and we should actually use those muscles more than before. I think of that every time I pick up my 5DII with it's battery back.

Let's exercise more, not less.
I'm posting this under "photography" sin... (show quote)


I'm too arthritic for many activities even at 65. Walking is even hard. Any risky behavior is long over with. I was too clumsy at even 16 to think of rollerblading, roller skating, or even skate boarding. A bicycle was fine and I probably should have stayed with that and driven less. Being clumsy and not athletic pointed me to more intellectual pursuits such as music listening and doing art like photography. I still manage to shoot with my APS-C cameras but weight and cost has kept me away from FF. I've shot Medium Format film in the past. Not sure I would enjoy that today. I am looking at Fujifilm MILCs though.

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Jan 10, 2020 14:12:10   #
Ched49 Loc: Pittsburgh, Pa.
 
dsmeltz wrote:
One last shot. Two things that have no bearing on this. Age and mirrorless. Age - stay in shape and exercise and you can handle the relatively small weight of most full frame cameras and gear. Mirrorless does not equal lighter. Smaller sensor and the related lenses can mean lighter, but simply switching to mirrorless will not, if you stay in the same sensor size.


In most cases, a comparable DSLR vs. mirrorless comparison of the same manufacturer, there is a sizeable difference in size and weight. Compare the Nikon D850 to the Nikon Z7 or the Canon 1D X to the Canon EOS Ra.

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Jan 10, 2020 14:18:53   #
david20313
 
We don't quit playing because we get old, we get old because we quit playing!

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Jan 10, 2020 14:42:49   #
mborn Loc: Massachusetts
 
Last July I ended up in the hospital and rehab for most of the month. Was started on OT & PT and am getting my strength back Doing exercises and weight training I am now better now at82 than I was at 81

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Jan 10, 2020 14:43:45   #
EdR Loc: Gig Harbor, WA
 
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I was replying to growing old is mandatory, growing up is optional!

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Jan 10, 2020 14:46:30   #
BebuLamar
 
I don't have heavy gear so my gear weighs about the same when I was 22 and when I am 65. I always had the heaviest of the 35mm but they were still only 35mm so not too heavy. I don't have big lenses.

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Jan 10, 2020 15:47:59   #
gessman Loc: Colorado
 
elliott937 wrote:
I'm posting this under "photography" since the weight of a camera seriously comes up far more often with the advent of mirrorless DSLR. And I understand that. But here's a point I'd like to make.

Ten years ago, when I taught and also broadcasted at a local radio station, on one day, I arrived an hour early. The station was on the campus of a local college, with silk smooth private street. So I brought my roller blades, and enjoyed myself before going into the building. I carried them into the studio, to a shocked announcer, 15 years younger, who ask "were you really skating on those?" Yes, was my response. He replied with "I know I'm too old to be skating on roller blades, and you certainly are too old to do that!"

To him I asked: "Did you buy a book on AGES, where each chapter tells you what you can do and can no longer do? And you believe what you read?"

As we grow older, we should not be in a super hurry to stop doing what we enjoy doing, from skating and from carrying a DSLR that we've carried for years earlier. Yes, I've stopped climbing a 20 foot ladder to clean gutters. But instead of using a snow shovel, I now use a snow blower. I'm in no hurry to give into "Mother Nature", only because others might suggest we should. Keep doing what you enjoy. My doctor reminds me that us "older folks" naturally grow weaker with our upper body muscles, and we should actually use those muscles more than before. I think of that every time I pick up my 5DII with it's battery back.

Let's exercise more, not less.
I'm posting this under "photography" sin... (show quote)


Isn't it amazing how some things seem so simplistic to us yet difficult for others which leads us to presume that if others would just do as we do they would feel as we feel. Being compact in stature, I have had uncommon strength most of my life and have rigorously exercised including weight lifting but now that I am approaching 83 in a few more days I am painfully aware of my strength rapidly diminishing with aging compounded by being nearly a 50 year diabetic which causes a loss of elasticity of muscle tissue. Now, the least bit of physical exertion makes me sore for days so it has more and more become a reason to do less and less. While previously I would just muscle my way through everything, I now find myself resorting to all kinds of trickery, even treachery, to avoid the soreness and exercise doesn't build me up - it only tears me further down. I'm not looking for answers because I've tried about everything. I'm just here to say to you folks in your 60s and 70s that you have yet to arrive to where you someday may be and hence you might want to give some thought to the idea that, when you have arrived, it may not so precisely match your present perception you may have from reading all those testosterone supplement adverts on Instagram.

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Jan 10, 2020 16:08:35   #
BboH Loc: s of 2/21, Ellicott City, MD
 
singleshot wrote:
Just celebrated my 84th. this past November and thankfully I'm still able to do most anything I want to do. I just don't want to do many of the things I once did. Birthdays are sorta like Krispy Kream Donuts, too many of um will kill ya.


Will do next month what you did in November.

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